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Old 14-09-2016, 17:07
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Well next Tuesday on ITV

8.00 Parking Wars
9.00 Car Wars

both first of three programmes
Blimey. Repeat Brideshead or Professionals or Upstairs Downstairs. Probably would not work I admit. NCIS would do better.
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Old 14-09-2016, 17:09
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Whilst Bake Off should increase tonight, probably worth noting that both their Twitter and Facebook social media pages have been silent. The BBC One social media pages isn't promoting it, nor is Love Productions.

So, the only people promoting tonight's show are the media, the fans and the contestants themselves.

But not the channel airing it, nor the production company via official outlets.

What a bizarre situation.

So I'm not sure. The publicity should see it grow, but the backlash could see a drop.
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Old 14-09-2016, 17:17
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Just been looking at Poldark's ratings so far - does anyone else think it's underperforming at the moment? It is still doing fine by normal standards, but it is looking like a very run of the mill programme in ratings terms at the moment. It didn't even crack 7 million in its first official rating. I was expecting at least a million more and for it to push closer to 8 million.
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Old 14-09-2016, 17:24
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Blimey. Repeat Brideshead or Professionals or Upstairs Downstairs. Probably would not work I admit. NCIS would do better.
Repeating 30-40 year old programmes would rate even worse than factual which likely costs less.
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Old 14-09-2016, 17:28
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Whilst Bake Off should increase tonight, probably worth noting that both their Twitter and Facebook social media pages have been silent. The BBC One social media pages isn't promoting it, nor is Love Productions.

So, the only people promoting tonight's show are the media, the fans and the contestants themselves.

But not the channel airing it, nor the production company via official outlets.

What a bizarre situation.

So I'm not sure. The publicity should see it grow, but the backlash could see a drop.
This afternoon on BBC1 - at every junction there has been a trailer for tonight's GBBO, often the Mary Berry one, saying back tonight, but they have shown 1/2 different ones, and sometimes two in a break. In addition, the Apprentice has been on, not as much but there are three versions, Alan, Claude and Karen so far.
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Old 14-09-2016, 17:30
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Just been looking at Poldark's ratings so far - does anyone else think it's underperforming at the moment? It is still doing fine by normal standards, but it is looking like a very run of the mill programme in ratings terms at the moment. It didn't even crack 7 million in its first official rating. I was expecting at least a million more and for it to push closer to 8 million.
I think IPlayer will be good.
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Old 14-09-2016, 17:37
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Poldark caused a media frenzy, but somehow this hasn't been translated into ratings.
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Old 14-09-2016, 17:41
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Just been looking at Poldark's ratings so far - does anyone else think it's underperforming at the moment? It is still doing fine by normal standards, but it is looking like a very run of the mill programme in ratings terms at the moment. It didn't even crack 7 million in its first official rating. I was expecting at least a million more and for it to push closer to 8 million.
I agree, the ratings have been disappointing. Lots of BBC Drama has been recently though.
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Old 14-09-2016, 17:47
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Poldark caused a media frenzy, but somehow this hasn't been translated into ratings.
I think it's just a case of the audience having had to wait too long for Series 2. Poldark-mania has been and gone in the 18 months since Series 1, which aired at a different and less high-rating time of year anyway. I do wonder if Series 1 was so big because there was bugger all else on, same with The Night Manager, which might have been 2m less if there'd been any opposition.

They're both good shows but Poldark has failed to capitalise on the success of Series 1. Sherlock would be the same but it has a very ardent fanbase, which helps a lot. Poldark hasn't been helped by having a genuinely good show facing it that's tapping into the same demographic of "period drama lovers". Now if you had something like National Treasure facing Poldark, I suspect Poldark would have higher ratings for those looking to get their Sunday night cosy drama fix.
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Old 14-09-2016, 17:52
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Just been looking at Poldark's ratings so far - does anyone else think it's underperforming at the moment? It is still doing fine by normal standards, but it is looking like a very run of the mill programme in ratings terms at the moment. It didn't even crack 7 million in its first official rating. I was expecting at least a million more and for it to push closer to 8 million.
I've not watched Sunday episode yet. It's not must see tv for me anyway. I can admire Aidan Turner but the storyline hook isn't there. Not sure why as the content is there in Poldark books.
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Old 14-09-2016, 17:53
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I think it's just a case of the audience having had to wait too long for Series 2. Poldark-mania has been and gone in the 18 months since Series 1, which aired at a different and less high-rating time of year anyway. I do wonder if Series 1 was so big because there was bugger all else on, same with The Night Manager, which might have been 2m less if there'd been any opposition.

They're both good shows but Poldark has failed to capitalise on the success of Series 1. Sherlock would be the same but it has a very ardent fanbase, which helps a lot. Poldark hasn't been helped by having a genuinely good show facing it that's tapping into the same demographic of "period drama lovers". Now if you had something like National Treasure facing Poldark, I suspect Poldark would have higher ratings for those looking to get their Sunday night cosy drama fix.
I don't blame the BBC for taking advantage of Downton ending but ITV launching Victoria early did out a spanner in the works. It works for ITV since Mammoth makes both shows
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Old 14-09-2016, 17:54
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Slightly BREAKING NEWS:

Paul Hollywood: "It's not up to me, I'm just a judge. I don't work for the BBC, I work for Love Productions."

Now whilst this is technically true, what he hasn't mentioned is that his contract is up this year anyway, so he couldn't be forced to move to Channel 4, he could just walk away from the contract.

Mary is still saying she's "very happy with the BBC" and "supportive of my colleagues' decisions" and her husband said last night that she wouldn't be signing anything.
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Old 14-09-2016, 17:59
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Slightly BREAKING NEWS:

Paul Hollywood: "It's not up to me, I'm just a judge. I don't work for the BBC, I work for Love Productions."

Now whilst this is technically true, what he hasn't mentioned is that his contract is up this year anyway, so he couldn't be forced to move to Channel 4, he could just walk away from the contract.

Mary is still saying she's "very happy with the BBC" and "supportive of my colleagues' decisions" and her husband said last night that she wouldn't be signing anything.
If he doesn't work for the BBC, why has he been given a job in the BBC driving fast cars? I always knew he would go to 'the other side'. But then, he's not my favourite person on the show anyway. I watch it because of Mel and Sue.
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Old 14-09-2016, 18:01
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You know what'd be funny in a perverse way? If C4 DO get Mary and Paul, and it flops after a series or two anyway. They should have thought about all this before buying the bloody thing in the first place, the public won't like stars being perceived as being too greedy. Of course all sorts of people get paid silly money - Ant and Dec, Graham Norton and the rest - but this is a direct choice between loyalty and cold hard cash in the middle of a big story. Wouldn't like to be their agents!
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Old 14-09-2016, 18:05
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I think it's clear at this point that Mary isn't going but Paul might be persuaded. The "I don't work for the BBC" is classic spin, making out like he's being forced to go due to the contract.

I don't blame him of course, but I genuinely think this will be a bad move in his career.
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Old 14-09-2016, 18:08
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Slightly BREAKING NEWS:

Paul Hollywood: "It's not up to me, I'm just a judge. I don't work for the BBC, I work for Love Productions."

Now whilst this is technically true, what he hasn't mentioned is that his contract is up this year anyway, so he couldn't be forced to move to Channel 4, he could just walk away from the contract.

Mary is still saying she's "very happy with the BBC" and "supportive of my colleagues' decisions" and her husband said last night that she wouldn't be signing anything.
So reading into thay, looking like Paul might go with it, but Mary is sticking with Mel and Sue?
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Old 14-09-2016, 18:08
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You know what'd be funny in a perverse way? If C4 DO get Mary and Paul, and it flops after a series or two anyway. They should have thought about all this before buying the bloody thing in the first place, the public won't like stars being perceived as being too greedy. Of course all sorts of people get paid silly money - Ant and Dec, Graham Norton and the rest - but this is a direct choice between loyalty and cold hard cash in the middle of a big story. Wouldn't like to be their agents!
Exactly, the way it's been announced is all about the money and Mel and Sue made a huge deal about them not taking the potentially lucrative pay offer, so it's pretty obvious that the public will leap to the conclusion that anyone who follows the show has done so for the money.

I'm amazed this is playing out so publicly, to be honest. Every side is trying to get their story out but, no matter what, it's pretty obvuous that Love Productions have been underhand to a lot of people on all sides.
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Old 14-09-2016, 18:09
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I think it's clear at this point that Mary isn't going but Paul might be persuaded. The "I don't work for the BBC" is classic spin, making out like he's being forced to go due to the contract.

I don't blame him of course, but I genuinely think this will be a bad move in his career.

I imagine if he does Bake Off, he'll get his own Channel 4 baking show and he will be able to do product endorsements. I think Michel Roux Jr left Masterchef for Channel 4 due to his endorsements for a potato brand
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Old 14-09-2016, 18:10
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So reading into thay, looking like Paul might go with it, but Mary is sticking with Mel and Sue?
I'd guess so. It sounds to me like he's spinning it so that he can claim he's being forced to move with the show, despite everyone knowing his contract is up after this series.

I do think Mary has made her decision but will probably wait for Paul to jump first so that it doesn't look like he's waited for everyone else to announce what they're doing before he made his decision. It could pay off if Paul does go to Channel 4, it could cement Mary as a national treasure for sticking with Auntie and Mel and Sue.
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Old 14-09-2016, 18:11
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I imagine if he does Bake Off, he'll get his own Channel 4 baking show and he will be able to do product endorsements. I think Michel Roux Jr left Masterchef for Channel 4 due to his endorsements for a potato brand
I don't think that's a problem these days. They both have their own product lines in shops and as they're employees (technically) of Love Productions they can do that. Roux couldn't because Masterchef is an in-house BBC production.
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Old 14-09-2016, 18:12
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So reading into thay, looking like Paul might go with it, but Mary is sticking with Mel and Sue?
Actually, reading Mary's statement, it kind of suggests she will go to C4 too. The "I'm incredibly happy at the BBC" yarn is just her way of saying "I will continue doing my bits on the beeb" and "fully supportive of my colleagues" means just that. She respects them and supports their decision but it doesn't mean she is taking the same decision.
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Old 14-09-2016, 18:16
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Actually, reading Mary's statement, it kind of suggests she will go to C4 too. The "I'm incredibly happy at the BBC" yarn is just her way of saying "I will continue doing my bits on the beeb" and "fully supportive of my colleagues" means just that. She respects them and supports their decision but it doesn't mean she is taking the same decision.
I think her husband wouldn't have said what he said last night though if there were any possibilities. She's said in the past that Bake Off isn't Bake Off without Mel and Sue, so the colleagues comment suggests that what she's referring to.
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Old 14-09-2016, 18:17
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Actually, reading Mary's statement, it kind of suggests she will go to C4 too. The "I'm incredibly happy at the BBC" yarn is just her way of saying "I will continue doing my bits on the beeb" and "fully supportive of my colleagues" means just that. She respects them and supports their decision but it doesn't mean she is taking the same decision.
I'm sure I remember Mary saying she does it because of Mel and Sue and wouldn't want to break that up? Who knows though, a truly extraordinary turn of events though- Possible one of the biggest media stoties ever surely?
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Old 14-09-2016, 18:18
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*Off topic* This is vintage ratings thread, thanks to all! *Off topic*
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Old 14-09-2016, 18:22
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I'm sure I remember Mary saying she does it because of Mel and Sue and wouldn't want to break that up? Who knows though, a truly extraordinary turn of events though- Possible one of the biggest media stoties ever surely?
I can't think of anything like it in the UK. The only thing that comes close to it in the US is the Late Night situations with Conan/Leno and Letterman/Leno.

Someone needs to start doing damage control and soon, because this could genuinely ruin the brand.
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