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*Off topic* This is vintage ratings thread, thanks to all! *Off topic*
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Can anyone think of many other medium or big shows that are in the hands of a really quite small independent production company? All the ones I can think of are either in-house or produced by superindies who both know which way their bread is buttered and also how to manage PR situations well.
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I don't think that's a problem these days. They both have their own product lines in shops and as they're employees (technically) of Love Productions they can do that. Roux couldn't because Masterchef is an in-house BBC production.
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I can't think of anything like it in the UK. The only thing that comes close to it in the US is the Late Night situations with Conan/Leno and Letterman/Leno.
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Repeating 30-40 year old programmes would rate even worse than factual which likely costs less.
Hasn't BBC1 repeated twenty year old sitcoms like Fawlty or OFAH or Porridge or Summer Wine? Dad's Army gets over a million and that's on 2. Allo Allo is another. I admit it's a left-field idea but I bet Morse could score 2m if not 3m. Like I said, the other option is try an import. Lethal Weapon, MaxGyver, Bull, Conviction or if they're really brave, Emerald City. After catch-up some of them might out perform - Blue Sirens in London. |
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Well, Bake Off does tend to bring the nation together! It's been an extraordinary week in TV-land, and has restored the Ratings Thread to its former glory. A vintage ratings thread indeed.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ng-series.html
Ker-Chingggggggggggggg!! "The male judge" beginning to show his true colours perhaps. Or just some stirring by The Mail.... |
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Exactly, the way it's been announced is all about the money and Mel and Sue made a huge deal about them not taking the potentially lucrative pay offer, so it's pretty obvious that the public will leap to the conclusion that anyone who follows the show has done so for the money.
I'm amazed this is playing out so publicly, to be honest. Every side is trying to get their story out but, no matter what, it's pretty obvuous that Love Productions have been underhand to a lot of people on all sides. They're not even on the same ocean. |
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So reading into thay, looking like Paul might go with it, but Mary is sticking with Mel and Sue?
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I think IPlayer will be good.
Victoria came in at 140k and 119k for its first and second episodes in 10th and 15th place respectively in the on demand top 50. |
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Isn't Masterchef a Shine/Ziji format? I wouldn't be surprised if Roux left Masterchef because of salaries
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It would be interesting to see how the press treated Hollywood going to C4.
Would the headlines be Hooray for Hollywood or Berk Off? |
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But, if you're right that Mel and Sue were offered 'derisory offers' whereas Paul and Mary have been offered 10x more money, then Mel and Sue really aren't in the same boat.
They're not even on the same ocean. |
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I can't think of anything like it in the UK. The only thing that comes close to it in the US is the Late Night situations with Conan/Leno and Letterman/Leno.
Someone needs to start doing damage control and soon, because this could genuinely ruin the brand. |
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I was gonna mention the book and movie The Late Shift yesterday in response to you saying this would make a good book but I thought it was maybe a little left-field to compare to this but I see we do think alike after all. A great book and a pretty decent TV movie as well.
E.g. Channel 4 should've only signed up if the talent was guaranteed, the BBC should've put in their contracts that they had the rights to first refusal, and Love Productions should learn there are some things you just don't do (i.e. keep secrets from the people involved in the show). I can't help but think the execs at Love are way out of their depth. Because, let's be honest, before Bake Off they were a fairly middling indie who had never had to deal with anything like this before. You certainly wouldn't have had a situation like this with Syco, Shine or Tiger Aspect, that's for sure. Sky should really be pushing for executives with a proven track record to be in charge. Although it's probably too late now because I think this whole debacle has tarnished Love as a company. |
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What was bigger on here, this GBBO story or last year's Top Gear story?
It was all just dropped on us on Monday night, purely because they had to beat the press who had the story leaked to them. |
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23k live iPlayer views for episode one of Poldark. Didn't make the on demand top 50. Something called Poldark: The Story So Far in 18th place with 115k. Was that just a recap?
Victoria came in at 140k and 119k for its first and second episodes in 10th and 15th place respectively in the on demand top 50. |
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If this is to be believed, £50m+ was on the table!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ng-series.html |
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Can anyone think of many other medium or big shows that are in the hands of a really quite small independent production company? All the ones I can think of are either in-house or produced by superindies who both know which way their bread is buttered and also how to manage PR situations well.
I can only think of Hartswood which makes Sherlock and made Men Behaving Badly, Gimme Gimme Gimme and Coupling. They're not a subsidiary of anyone. Celador was independent for many years as well. |
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That's true, but Mary has been very very open about Mel and Sue being so integral. Plus, she's at the stage of her career where she might want to slow down and whilst £6m is a lot of money, she doesn't really need it.
Reading the Mail story (and credit to them for crediting the Sun and Telegraph with links) it sounds like Mary has decided nothing and is open to offers. Let's be honest, it's a wonderful problem to have really. |
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Even Love is owned partly by Sky, but it could be considered independent because a lot of other indies are owned by superindies like All3Media or Shine.
I can only think of Hartswood which makes Sherlock and made Men Behaving Badly, Gimme Gimme Gimme and Coupling. They're not a subsidiary of anyone. Celador was independent for many years as well. |
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I agree, the ratings have been disappointing. Lots of BBC Drama has been recently though.
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I've not watched Sunday episode yet. It's not must see tv for me anyway. I can admire Aidan Turner but the storyline hook isn't there. Not sure why as the content is there in Poldark books.
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I didn't realise how rich the two were when I talked of grandchildren.
Reading the Mail story (and credit to them for crediting the Sun and Telegraph with links) it sounds like Mary has decided nothing and is open to offers. Let's be honest, it's a wonderful problem to have really. |
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The Fall confirmed for 9pm BBC2 Thursday 29 September
The Sir Terry Wogan tribute programme is now confirmed for 9pm Friday September 30th |
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Good examples, thanks. I doubt this circus would have gone on had Sky been officially involved.
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