We've got her all wrong - She's actually the saviour of GBBO and has fought valiantly to keep it out of Murdoch's clutches.

That's quite a piece of self-serving BS.

I knew there'd be another deluge tomorrow. Nobody wanted to announce anything today because of Bake Off being on, and any negative press today might've impacted the viewers. I think tomorrow we might get an answer on Paul and/or Mary.

Cannot stand this woman, Loved her spiel on the Paralympics in a statement about bake off too- Look, aren't we wonderful blah blah, blah- Also, it's not going to be exactly the same is it, as we've just lost the two lead presenters, and might yet lose the judges- Not the same show, not at all

Could the news that the talent will not be there have an impact on entries for the next series especially if your a big fan of any of them -

Desperation springs to mind. She is doing damage limitation. Badly. It is bullcrap.

Whittingdale and Grade have their say

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...dia_b-gdnmedia

My god, is John Whippingdale actually standing up for the BBC? Can't believe it's taken this long. Actually, I can, his 9pm with Mrs Pain must've overrun...

I do think this could be the nail in Channel 4's coffin with regards to privitisation. It really isn't in their remit, but they might just spin it enough by showing all the profits of Bake Off making risky shows.

Bake Off felt very flat tonight but I think it's because a couple of my favourite bakers had a nightmare... though luckily they survived!

The truth is it's gone. If Paul and Mary go, they go. We'll see what happens from now on. The BBC will continue, as will Channel 4. Maybe the BBC will attempt to tighten up their contracts with Indies where possible in light of this; it will be interesting how indies react if so. Of course the BBC did have a condition in place that Bake Off would take a year off if it moved broadcasters but it appears that they haven't demanded this happens.

"Quick! We need a face saving press release to placate people now! Type something! TYPE SOMETHING!"

To be fair the storyline here is 'TV show switches broadcaster'. Considering the reaction anyone would think the government had just been overthrown in a military coup.

Be interesting to see if Ch 4 bids for the next Paralympic Games

Ha, probably more true than you realise! There's going to be such a scramble for column inches and news time over these next few weeks as each side tries to get their story out. Everyone at Channel 4 is being told to just keep their gob shut, the BBC are riding the wave of the public being on their side, and Love Productions are just bunkering down to ride out the storm.

That's if, they can get that into the dumbass politician's heads. Doubtful tbh.

If this all turns out to be the disaster it's turning into, Love Productions basically axed their own numbe 1 rating show. Remarkable.

There seems to be murmurings across social media and by comments made by people like Jeremy Vine that Bake Off could ultimately be returned to the BBC by C4 - perhaps by the BBC paying C4 the £15m? Could this actually happen?

Jay Hunt is trending, fact fans.

Oh god I know it's a good show but really? Move on...to disaster, but move on all the same. Such a Delboy style deal would do both the BBC and Channel 4 harm if you ask me, but I guess anything's possible in this mad week.

Re the late night talk show conversation... I've just watched Rene Zellweger on Jimmy Fallon do some cheerleading routine followed by sumo wrestling with JF.

As the producer of James Corder's show said, they don't look at ratings, they look at YouTube views. Maybe this is what ITV wants in the era of Millennials.

Graham Norton's YouTube channel does upload some of the highlights and some can get over 1m viewers which is small fry compared to Fallon or Corden but still good. Lip Sync Battle UK has one of the clips of Katherine Ryan doing Sorry doing 1m as well so there is potential in YouTube views

Why would Channel 4 return The Great British Bake Off to the BBC? Because a bunch of talking heads told them to?

The whole televisual world does not and should not revolve around the BBC. They're quick enough to dump shows which do not perform as well as using conditions set to pull out of contracts early - as it's their right to do.

Now I can understand the argument that Bake Off won't work on Channel 4 for a myriad of reasons. But at the end of the day it's a product, produced for money by Love. If they can claim more cash from somewhere else then why not? That's the way the commercial world works. On the flip side, the BBC has outbid it's commercial counterparts on certain contracts - for example, Match of the Day is unfeasible for commercial networks at it's current cost, as was the Six Nations before the BBC and ITV came to an agreement. Again quite rightly so, if they can afford to do so and there's public benefit in this approach. But it's swings and roundabouts, really.

But we don't care about that in a ratings thread. Nothing exists outside TV here!

The storyline here is actually 'huge backlash and PR shitstorm for Love Productions and Channel 4'. What a book this will all make!

At that time of night Corden's show needs You Tube hits to generate buzz. If he was an hour earlier in The Tonight Show slot ratings would be looked at more closely.

I think ITV would love a buzz show as would BBC2 with their Saturday Night Live type show. But I think execs now confuse social media for ratings. Still good to get bums on seats.

That's the other factor for ITV, potential hosts and Hollywood guests to consider - this is a show that could cross the Atlantic.

Films often now are released earlier here than in America. A guest can get his film (or music) noticed in America and elsewhere by doing something that gets web traffic.

Potential hosts could get noticed in America. You know they think they can be the next Corden. And ITV gets international exposure.

ITV knows from SuBo how huge YouTube can be.

The days of returning a programme like Thames did with Dallas are long gone.

When a broadcaster commits to a show from an indie they do expect costs to rise if it's a hit, but not so much that they get priced out. That messes up relationships with broadcasters. Imagine Kudos taking Broadchurch to a rival broadcaster after one series on ITV.

The BBC is on the back foot here when they work with an indie for several years then a rival broadcaster buys it, as we saw with Talpa and The Voice. What Love Productions has done is unprecedented and hasn't exactly been applauded by some in the TV industry.

Oh yeah, people can get carried away by what's trending. Corden still is beaten in the ratings by his rivals.

Social media is an echo chamber and C4 will be reminding themselves of that.