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Old 30-07-2016, 09:56
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1.58m incl +1 for Celebrity Big Brother. Disappointing drop, only up 30k on last summer.

Edit- I guess the final of Masterchef brought the likes of that and First Dates down it seems.
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Old 30-07-2016, 10:01
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BBC1
EastEnders: 5.41m (30.8%)
Celebrity MasterChef Final: 4.86m (26.1%)
BBC News (10pm): 4.14m (26.1%)

BBC2
Rugby League: 0.81m (4.6%)
Newsnight: 0.50m (4.2%)
The Hairy Builder: 0.45m (2.9%)

BBC4
BBC Proms 2016: David Bowie: 0.47m (4.4%)
Sounds of the Eighties (9.45pm) (Repeat): 0.29m (1.7%)
BBC Proms 2016 (7.30pm): 0.25m (1.4%)

C4 (exc +1)
Celebrity First Dates: 1.15m (6.2%)
Amazing Spaces: Shed of the Year: 1.08m (5.9%)
Friday Night Dinner: 1.07m (6.9%)

C5 (exc +1)
Celebrity Big Brother: 1.32m (7.1%)
20 Moments That Rocked the '90s (Repeat): 0.51m (2.9%)
It's Not Me, It's You: 0.50m (3.2%)
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Old 30-07-2016, 10:42
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MasterChef clearly hurt CBB. That was an unfortunate clash on night two.

Does Rugby League always do that badly on BBC2?
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Old 30-07-2016, 10:42
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Friday Night Dinner: 1.07m (6.9%)
Good for Friday Night Dinner to add viewers week-on-week, phenomenal show.
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Old 30-07-2016, 10:46
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MasterChef clearly hurt CBB. That was an unfortunate clash on night two.

Does Rugby League always do that badly on BBC2?
Perhaps that may be the reason. We won't know until Monday morning when Sunday's ratings come out, we'll see if it's in the higher 1s. There seems to be a lot of people who don't mind the lineup, but are missing the civilian lot because people are still annoyed it was cut short. And that, I understand because I really enjoyed it. It's disappointing that all of a sudden, the money isn't the issue for Live Feed for CBB, but it's a huge issue with the normal series.

Rugby League looks poor.
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Old 30-07-2016, 11:01
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What happened to BBC2? Why would they fill up the schedule with Rugby League if no one watches it?

Decent night for Channel 4.
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Old 30-07-2016, 11:05
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What happened to BBC2? Why would they fill up the schedule with Rugby League if no one watches it?

Decent night for Channel 4.
Channel 4 only just got over the million mark, so compared to BBC2 okish? but nothing to dance in a circle about.

I suspect now they know, they may change tactic and not show rugby league in primetime if there isn't a demand for it?
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Old 30-07-2016, 11:05
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Doc Martin (R): 1.86m (10.0%) exc +1
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Old 30-07-2016, 11:19
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Any itv ratings
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Old 30-07-2016, 11:22
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I am guessing but I suspect the second Coronation Street may have been dented due to the MasterChef Final?
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Old 30-07-2016, 12:43
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Geordie Shore, Ex on the beach, Celebirty Juice, Judge Geordie, Several fitness DVDs, columns in magazines and a couple of novels.

Apart from that though...
She's also a team captain on Channel 5's Eamonn Holmes fronted panel show, It's Not Me, It's You.

Too Much Tv axed by BBC Two
Good, It was awful. :
Even one of it's presenters, Rufus Hound, admitted on air that it was terrible!
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Old 30-07-2016, 13:06
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Football on 5: The Championship & Goal Rush is back a week today to have their ratings laughed at for the next 9 months. Well by me at least. The FA/EFL are ruining league Football.
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Old 30-07-2016, 13:10
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Football on 5: The Championship & Goal Rush is back a week today to have their ratings laughed at for the next 9 months. Well by me at least. The FA/EFL are ruining league Football.
Channel 5 have sacked Kelly Cates and hired BT Sport's Lindsey Hipgrave in an attempt to boost ratings. How they think replacing one experienced sports presenter with another is going to improve the ratings is a mystery to me.

They have also renamed the programme Football On 5 after the previous incarnation was called Football League Tonight. At least they're trying but it does seem like too little, too late at this stage.
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Old 30-07-2016, 13:48
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Well by me at least. The FA/EFL are ruining league Football.
OTT comment of the day right there.

It will be back on the BBC as soon as the contract ends I'm sure, but let's not pretend it was a huge rater on there either because it absolutely wasn't, even with the most perfect lead-in going in the shape of MOTD.

The gamble was always on the 9pm slot boosting viewership. When it became clear immediately from the first set of figures that it wasn't going to, it was effectively game over for Football League Tonight there and then. And now it's just a case of seeing out the remainder of the contract.
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Old 30-07-2016, 13:55
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Channel 5 have sacked Kelly Cates and hired BT Sport's Lindsey Hipgrave in an attempt to boost ratings. How they think replacing one experienced sports presenter with another is going to improve the ratings is a mystery to me.

They have also renamed the programme Football On 5 after the previous incarnation was called Football League Tonight. At least they're trying but it does seem like too little, too late at this stage.
They'd have been better off ditching the presenters entirely and maximising match footage. A better quality programme, albeit still low rated I suspect, but at least it would challenge perceptions of the channel, something that the current programme with maximum waffle and minimum actual highlights does not.
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Old 30-07-2016, 13:57
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Exactly. Said poster reverting to type (displayed on here last year and before). Disappears for a good while and returns - a couple of weeks in and here we go again...
Actually I was responding to " type" a clear unnecessary dig at what the poster feels are low quality celebrity's on Masterchef, but,,, this thread goes into ore on IACGMOOH.

On The Ratings thread, that original post was not productive, I generally do not post here now, as a couple of posters like to attribute names to people who have different opinions to thier own.

Masterchef had a very good mix of very well known Celebrities this year, hence good ratings, IACGMOOH have to pay ££££££ and end up with the toxic Nigel Farage.

I do not think it's relevant if posters post here day in day out or " disappear " some do not live on the Internet or this forum, or thread year round.
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Old 30-07-2016, 14:13
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The quality of celebs on Masterchef is irrelevant imo. It's an entertaining format. That's why I watch anyway. For the record I think they tend to do pretty well in the celebrities they attract.
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Old 30-07-2016, 14:17
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Channel 4 only just got over the million mark, so compared to BBC2 okish? but nothing to dance in a circle about.

I suspect now they know, they may change tactic and not show rugby league in primetime if there isn't a demand for it?
The BBC has the contract for the Challenge Cup and is obliged to show two live matches every weekend. It's only played in some areas of the North West and Yorkshire, so ratings are bound to be low, but the BBC has encouraged the sport since the fifties and the sport would suffer if they abandoned it. Typically the final will attract 1.5 million and the world cup final 1.8 million, but I think it's good PSB for the BBC to keep supporting rugby league.
As for Channel 4, their sleazy trash offerings like Naked Attraction deserve the falter. There's nothing they show apart from news and racing, which they're losing in December, I'd go near and no wonder their programmes are struggling to get a million.
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Old 30-07-2016, 14:23
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1.58m incl +1 for Celebrity Big Brother. Disappointing drop, only up 30k on last summer.

Edit- I guess the final of Masterchef brought the likes of that and First Dates down it seems.
Been out of the loop on here for a while, but it looks like this summer's underwhelming BB is affecting CBB, as BBC News website has reported the launch was half a million down on the last series. Also I can remember the first CBB launch on Channel 5 peaking at 5.5 million and being the station's most watched programme since an England game in 1997.
Another thing I did notice, Love Island was 200,000 ahead of BB in its last weeks. Last year this show was completely reviled by the press, ratings sometimes fell as low as 300,000, but doubled its ratings this year and will have a third series. Also I'd imagine many of its viewers won't remember the infamous celeb version on ITV 1 and this is a different format.
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Old 30-07-2016, 14:36
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Been out of the loop on here for a while, but it looks like this summer's underwhelming BB is affecting CBB, as BBC News website has reported the launch was half a million down on the last series.
Read the article as opposed to just the headline.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36923554
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Old 30-07-2016, 14:42
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Been out of the loop on here for a while, but it looks like this summer's underwhelming BB is affecting CBB, as BBC News website has reported the launch was half a million down on the last series. Also I can remember the first CBB launch on Channel 5 peaking at 5.5 million and being the station's most watched programme since an England game in 1997.
Another thing I did notice, Love Island was 200,000 ahead of BB in its last weeks. Last year this show was completely reviled by the press, ratings sometimes fell as low as 300,000, but doubled its ratings this year and will have a third series. Also I'd imagine many of its viewers won't remember the infamous celeb version on ITV 1 and this is a different format.
Yep. Read that article. It launched above last summer. Actually it launched above the 2014 summer series too. Last night was also up on the first show of last summer despite being up against tougher competition.

Summer CBB should only be compared to summer CBB, not winter. The winter version launches with an average of 2.9m whereas the summer series launches with an average of 2.4m.

The normal series looks to have been the highest since the 2013 series. You really are out of the loop.
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Old 30-07-2016, 14:44
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Indeed.

A very harsh headline I thought. But at least they had the decency to point out the more significant fact that it was up year-on-year a short way down.

Unfortunately, a lot of people like Glenn will just look at the headline, which is very misleading in this case.
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Old 30-07-2016, 14:49
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January is a different world to July, but I think having a two day gap between an unsuccessful BB and CBB will hurt CBB.
I don't know why Channel 5 doesn't axe BB and spend the money on CBB, which tends to rate a million higher. Interest in BB is so low now even the Daily Star has almost given up and I did read Dancc saying the show should be axed now.
OTOH today is a very important day for ratings as it's the 50th anniversary of England winning the World Cup. It was estimated 33 million people watched the final( 62 per cent of the population) and probably those without televisions( about 10 per cent of the population) would have listened on the BBC LIght Programme. If you include those listening on the radio as well as television who liked football, the final audience figure would be 35 million.
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Old 30-07-2016, 16:02
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OTOH today is a very important day for ratings as it's the 50th anniversary of England winning the World Cup. It was estimated 33 million people watched the final( 62 per cent of the population) and probably those without televisions( about 10 per cent of the population) would have listened on the BBC LIght Programme. If you include those listening on the radio as well as television who liked football, the final audience figure would be 35 million.
I remember that. In fact just checked my diary from 1966 to see what was happening.

I was at school and had a newspaper delivery round from the shop directly opposite the old church in Manchester from which the first run of Top of the Pops was transmitted before it moved to a proper studio. I used to see the acts being brought in early to rehearse in secret and discovered from someone there how to listen to the rehearsals by re-tuning our radiogram thingy (or TV I forget) to a certain non channel frequency that picked up the sound only. This was great fun for a while because I knew who was on each show in advance and I got a reputation for being a 'witch' until I explained how I knew! But by 1966 it had long since moved from what was the BBCs original home in the City. Though we picked up audio from other things made there (they made some comedy movies there even before BBC TV moved in).

My rounds were seven days a week, twice a day (except Sunday - where I got evenings off). I was paid ten shillings a week for this job which involved a mile cycle ride there and then back and a long ride around some rambling old cotton baron houses.

That evening 50 years ago right now I recall how everyone was watching TV on the houses that I could see through the windows - or at least the ones which had them (not all by any means then).

I knew what was happening, of course, as my mum and dad ran a junior football league and often had league players in our house teaching their youngsters a few things as we lived right by a football stadium - but I was still surprised by how much attention the game was getting with everyone who was not even that interested in football.

I did not see any of the game because of my round until my parents hired a colour film of the highlights (TV was still black and white then) to show to the team and teach tactics to their young lads a while later. I was the only one who could work the projector so they asked me in.

That day in 1966 was a Saturday, just like it is today, by the way. So ratings can be fairly compared!

Not.
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Old 30-07-2016, 16:40
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January is a different world to July, but I think having a two day gap between an unsuccessful BB and CBB will hurt CBB.
I don't know why Channel 5 doesn't axe BB and spend the money on CBB, which tends to rate a million higher. Interest in BB is so low now even the Daily Star has almost given up and I did read Dancc saying the show should be axed now.
OTOH today is a very important day for ratings as it's the 50th anniversary of England winning the World Cup. It was estimated 33 million people watched the final( 62 per cent of the population) and probably those without televisions( about 10 per cent of the population) would have listened on the BBC LIght Programme. If you include those listening on the radio as well as television who liked football, the final audience figure would be 35 million.
I think that was the general consesus for the first 5 weeks of the series, that it should be axed, it was however doing better than the year before still. But it was a bit embarassing that Love Island was beating it.

At that time, i think C5 may have considered letting it rest, but they may have changed their minds after LI and the Euro's ended as the series picked up a fair bit. In fact the final 2 weeks were the best rated in 3 years. And I see they have opened applications again.

They could do with a 3 year break with JUST the winter CBB going, and then when BB comes back, it will be fresher.. They did a 2 year gap for the Italian version and it worked wonders for them.
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