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Dunno why everyone is calling out ITV when BBC1's highest show had not even 3.1 million...for the first channel on the telly that's a joke.
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how depressing for last night.
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Dunno why everyone is calling out ITV when BBC1's highest show had not even 3.1 million...for the first channel on the telly that's a joke.
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Dunno why everyone is calling out ITV when BBC1's highest show had not even 3.1 million...for the first channel on the telly that's a joke.
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Dunno why everyone is calling out ITV when BBC1's highest show had not even 3.1 million...for the first channel on the telly that's a joke.
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Dunno why everyone is calling out ITV when BBC1's highest show had not even 3.1 million...for the first channel on the telly that's a joke.
Saturday night even in the summer, these figures are crud.com. I agree it is poor for the BBC also, Casualty getting just over 3.5 million viewers is low. I imagine the end of August can't come quick enough for itv and the start of X Factor. |
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Celebrity Big Brother: 1.35m (8.2%) inc +1
Not too terrible for a Saturday. Last years first Saturday got 910,000, so 50% up on that pretty much. Saying that, it's a decent number for the Saturday show. Quote:
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ITV (inc. +1) Catchphrase - 2.61m (18.8%) Tom Daley: Diving for Gold - 1.60m (10.5%) 1966: A Nation Remembers - 1.18m (7.1%) That is truly awful. I knew it would be low, but not that low. Horrible, horrible night for ITV. If XF can return with 7m it's going to look huge next to that.
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Well that is some spin. To be up 50%, it would need a rating of 1.82m.
. No. 1.82m would be an increase of 100%.No spin. It's basic maths. |
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Well that is some spin. To be up 50%, it would need a rating of 1.82m.
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. No. 1.82m would be an increase of 100%.No spin. It's basic maths. Quote:
No, you are wrong. Do the maths before you call someone out for spinning
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Isn't it time we got over 1966 and accepted we are a second tier nation? Typical British mentality, live in the past.
Have noticed Skyfall is on AGAIN next Saturday. Are ITV broke? |
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is iTV now a niche channel ?
![]() I must admit i now have my TV off more evenings than its on. |
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It seems obvious to me that the general public would love to watch both BBC1 and ITV1 of an evening.
It's the failure of those channels that is the problem. Video-on-demand is great for those niche programmes that used to be on BBC2 and Channel4, but you can't beat the experience of the mass audience programmes that used to be the staple on BBC1/ITV1 |
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Its quite in incredible how Celeb Masterchef can continue to do so well. They can get some of the most usless celebs on the programme, but still it rates well. Food shows NEVER fail to rate well for the BBC.
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The point I am making is it doesn't matter how famous they are. Punters watch reality shows. You are a fine example of that. It's your gig, no problem.
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The quality of celebs on Masterchef is irrelevant imo. It's an entertaining format. That's why I watch anyway. For the record I think they tend to do pretty well in the celebrities they attract.
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Does Rugby League always do that badly on BBC2?
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What happened to BBC2? Why would they fill up the schedule with Rugby League if no one watches it?
Besides, on Friday I saw many tweets from rugby league fans who were absolutely thrilled that the BBC were putting rugby league in primetime and giving it valuable exposure. We hear so much everywhere about how the Beeb shouldn't be chasing ratings and encouraging minority sports instead of throwing money at millionaire footballers and then we get inquests when a minority sport doesn't get millions of viewers. Quote:
Channel 5 have sacked Kelly Cates and hired BT Sport's Lindsey Hipgrave in an attempt to boost ratings. How they think replacing one experienced sports presenter with another is going to improve the ratings is a mystery to me.
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They'd have been better off ditching the presenters entirely and maximising match footage. A better quality programme, albeit still low rated I suspect, but at least it would challenge perceptions of the channel, something that the current programme with maximum waffle and minimum actual highlights does not.
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Plus the FA want to put a fourth sub on from QF onwards so the premier league teams can just put on a big name in the dying minutes to get a late winner.
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Not surprisd the tom daley and world cup shows did so badly there not really saturday night programmes are they.
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Just looked at 1966. A nation remembers 1.18M?!
It would not have done any better on any other night. Just terrible. Or maybe people are now more angry that England have not won anything since.I'm sure the programmes themselves were perfectly fine, I'm going to watch the 1966 one later. But even though it was on the day itself, I think it probably didn't help, like their Euro 96 doc the other week, that the BBC had already done a documentary on the same subject a few weeks earlier, so it felt a bit second hand. And maybe it might have been better received if England weren't so bloody awful at the moment. Quote:
For the past three weeks I have done nothing but watch Doctor Who and Hustle on Netflix. I have one episode and one series of Hustle left to watch and then it will be Death in Paradise from the beginning also on Netflix. Such is the state of television at the moment, I haven't found anything to entice me at all for months. It's such a shame because I used to frequent the ratings thread with enthusiasm. But seeing the two main channels dwindling on 3, 2 and 1 million figures is proof that they really don't know how to cater for their audiences anymore.
And in addition of course it's July. In the past the Beeb may well have been showing repeats of Doctor Who and Death In Paradise in any case. And if you include the news, BBC1 was brand new and British from 5.35 until 10.35 last night, including two new dramas and three new entertainment programmes. OK, they may not have been out of the top drawer, but you would certainly not have got that very often in the past, in July. I mean, last night I only watched Pointless, but so what? It's July and I have other stuff to do. I don't want to watch telly all night. Quote:
I do not think it's relevant if posters post here day in day out or " disappear " some do not live on the Internet or this forum, or thread year round.
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I've not watched anything on main channels on Saturday night since new year apart from Mrs Brown's boys. Earlier in year I'd pick up on recorded stuff but currently naff all on during week so it's box sets at moment.
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It seems obvious to me that the general public would love to watch both BBC1 and ITV1 of an evening.
It's the failure of those channels that is the problem. Video-on-demand is great for those niche programmes that used to be on BBC2 and Channel4, but you can't beat the experience of the mass audience programmes that used to be the staple on BBC1/ITV1 |
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Once Man Down went up against Boy Meets Girl, Boy Meets Girls ratings took a hit. But it was suffering before that as episode 1 of series 2 didn't hit 1 million.
Boy Meets Girl is a sitcom built on a character being transgender rather than jokes. It's not very funny. So by killing off that story and still failing to make it a funny sitcom they lost the only edge they had and most of the audience. Almost universally the reaction has been that series 2 is much inferior to series 1. And that was barely funny in the first place. |
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Well, you say this, and sorry if this sounds a bit weird, but surely one of the reasons you have Netflix is to watch Netflix, and that will inevitably mean watching it instead of broadcast TV. If you don't watch it, it's a waste of money. And the programmes you mention are all BBC programmes anyway, so presumably the Beeb do know how to cater for their audience because you're still watching their programmes, two of which are continuing series anyway. And in addition of course it's July. In the past the Beeb may well have been showing repeats of Doctor Who and Death In Paradise in any case. And if you include the news, BBC1 was brand new and British from 5.35 until 10.35 last night, including two new dramas and three new entertainment programmes. OK, they may not have been out of the top drawer, but you would certainly not have got that very often in the past, in July. I mean, last night I only watched Pointless, but so what? It's July and I have other stuff to do. I don't want to watch telly all night. |
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Drama Consolidated Averages for 2016
Here are the consolidated averages for BBC One and ITV dramas so far this year: Code:
BBC One 1 - 11.64m - Sherlock... (-2%) 2 - 9.95m - Call The Midwife... (-3%) 3 - 8.55m - Happy Valley... (+19%) 4 - 8.41m - Silent Witness... (+1%) 5 - 8.42m - The Night Manager... (NEW/+11%) 6 - 8.08m - Death In Paradise... (-6%) 7 - 7.06m - War And Peace... (NEW/-16%) 8 - 5.77m - Shetland... (+1%) 9 - 5.51m - The A Word... (NEW/-4%) 10 - 5.28m - Undercover... (NEW/-22%) 11 - 4.37m - In The Club... (-22%) 12 - 4.16m - Wallander... (-29%) 13 - 3.94m - Dickensian... (NEW/-28%) 14 - 3.51m – The Musketeers*... (-18%) 15 - 3.10m – New Blood... (NEW/-34%) 16 – 2.79m – The Living And The Dead*... (NEW/-46%) 17 – 2.73m – Reg... (NEW) 18 – 2.46m – Love, Nina... (NEW/-41%) 19 – 2.10m – Midsummer Night’s Dream... (NEW) Code:
ITV (inc +1 in brackets 1 - 6.82m (7.17m) - Maigret... (NEW) 2 - 6.67m (6.96m) - The Durrells... (NEW/-24%) 3 - 6.45m (7.32m) - Vera... (+18%) 4 - 6.41m (6.81m) - Marcella... (NEW/-21%) 5 - 6.11m (6.44m) - Grantchester... (-3%) 6 - 6.00m (6.43m) - Midsomer Murders... (+9%) 7 - 5.87m (6.29m) - Scott & Bailey... (+4%) 8 - 5.73m (6.34m) - Endeavour... (-6%) 9 - 5.49m (5.88m) - Home Fires... (-4%) 10 - 5.47m (5.77m) – Brief Encounters*... (NEW/-7%) 11 - 5.26m (5.58m) - The Secret... (NEW/-1%) 12 - 4.44m (4.86m) - Doctor Thorne... (NEW/-22%) 13 - 4.22m (4.53m) - Mr Selfridge... (-14%) 14 - 3.76m (4.14m) - Jericho... (NEW/-19%) 15 - 3.65m (3.99m) - Churchill's Secret... (NEW) 16 - 2.10m (2.31m) - Beowulf... (NEW/-38%) In brackets is the % rise or fall compared to the averages for their previous series. For new shows, the % is the rise or fall between the first and last episodes of the series. BBC One Drama in 2016 so far has averaged 5.75m over about 104 hours. ITV Drama so far in 2016 has averaged 4.96m (inc +1: 5.34m) over 101 hours. |
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I'm not sure that is the case. Folks watch a specific programme on those channels but they aren't going to hang around if there is stuff elsewhere that they want to watch. It's dip in / dip out. Even older generations are breaking habits of a lifetime.
If BBC1/ITV1 were instead packed full of live events, comedy and engaging light entertainment programming then they would get a significant audience again. What has happened is that both the BBC and ITV are now run by people who are not into TV. |
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A rating courtesy of rzt.
Consolidated Rating Mrs Brown' Boys Live: 8.809m (42.5%). |
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A rating courtesy of rzt.
Consolidated Rating Mrs Brown' Boys Live: 8.809m (42.5%). I make that a timeshift of 2.36m. Fantastic rating, and that share is brilliant. Edit - I've just seen on the Bake Off Instagram that it will be returning on 24 August. |
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A rating courtesy of rzt.
Consolidated Rating Mrs Brown' Boys Live: 8.809m (42.5%). Quote:
Thank you rzt and cylon!
I make that a timeshift of 2.36m. Fantastic rating, and that share is brilliant. Edit - I've just seen on the Bake Off Instagram that it will be returning on 24 August. The Bake Off start day is not a surprise. First Wednesday after the Olympics. |
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Hang on, we're going to need a citation here, I think. I have not read anywhere that Channel 5 have "sacked" Kelly Cates, and I think I might be libellous to suggest they have. Cates is not presenting the new season but that does not mean she has been sacked. There can be many reasons as to why she's no longer presenting.
The problem with a show like this, especially one that's on at 9pm, is that there's a need for presenters because there has to be a live element to ensure the programme runs to time. If all the matches are nine goal thrillers they can talk less, if they're all 0-0s they can talk more. You could argue that the talk is not very good, but there has to be some kind of talk, because it would be too hard to edit it all together without that buffer - especially so soon after the matches when there's no way to work out how long the actual match footage can be. It would be even worse if we had to see more from appalling 0-0s to fill up the time. It's not necessarily libellous to suggest it because we have simply come to an obvious conclusion based on what has happened. If proof or reporting emerges showing that Kelly Cates was not sacked, I will happily retract my statement. The football chat can be good if they can get some decent presenters and pundits who can build up a good rapport. I think a Soccer Saturday style format with one host and three or four pundits sat at an adjoining desk would work better. The highlights could be shown, as introduced by the host, and the various pundits could give their opinions. They should try to get recognisable pundits and keep them the same each week so that the viewers can become familiarised with them and they can build up a rapport. |
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The A Word renewed for series two, confirmed by co producers Sundance in the US.
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That is truly awful. I knew it would be low, but not that low. Horrible, horrible night for ITV. If XF can return with 7m it's going to look huge next to that.
. No. 1.82m would be an increase of 100%.

