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Advertisers may be wary of forking out the big bucks:
http://www.thegrocer.co.uk/buying-an...542406.article That charity thing next year isn't going to help them with that either. Quote:
Is Channel 4 made up of the most inept executives known to man? This is staggering.
GBBO is like using Ryan Lochte to advertise your products for honesty. More pressure on 4 Former Culture Secretary John Whittingdale says the £75million purchase of the show has led to fresh questions about whether such deals are “appropriate" https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/183474...ion-questions/ |
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The brand is now " toxic" I can't see advertisers running to put Ads in it, even though st the BBC it had high youth viewers.
GBBO is like using Ryan Lochte to advertise your products for honesty. Quote:
It seems you (and others) have taken the whole thing rather personally. God knows why. I know you are extremely pro-BBC, but you act as if you have been personally affected by the move.
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Advertisers may be wary of forking out the big bucks:
http://www.thegrocer.co.uk/buying-an...542406.article That charity thing next year isn't going to help them with that either. A major supermarket will sign up and many have probably opened talks already. I'd hold off making any announcement until after the series ends; probably in the new year after any Xmas show and when all of the hyperbole has drained away. It should not be hard for C4 to start building Bake Off back up next year. Early on you invite print journalists in and offer them plenty of copy to win some early favours. I'm sure C4 know exactly what to do, it's pretty basic strategy. If they do need help then they should approach Amazon because they've put on a clinic over the past year. They didn't just rehabilitate Clarkson, they torpedoed Top Gear. |
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Lethal Weapon got underway with 7.8m viewers (2.2) for Fox last night. Notable because ITV has picked it up in the UK.
A decent enough performance, albeit fairly unremarkable. A bigger eyecatcher on the night out of the debutants was ABC's Designated Survivor (9.95m/2.3) in the 10pm hour. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...-sept-21-2016/ |
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I can keep posting this quotation every time you repeat the same old post...
There have been a lot more " personal" comments re GBBO made by other posters than me, i.e. I have not made a single criticism of Paul Hollywood others have, but time after time after time, you just like to single me out only. ![]() Hundreds of posts here and across the forums on this matter today, plenty stronger than mine, but again for some reason you just want not to discuss but make personal comments. I noted someone else here in this thread suggested you cool it earlier this week. You can repeat it if you wish, your on my ignore list most of the time anyway. I try to avoid being goaded into petty squabbles being instigated. Now let's move on..... |
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It should not be hard for C4 to start building Bake Off back up next year. Early on you invite print journalists in and offer them plenty of copy to win some early favours. I'm sure C4 know exactly what to do, it's pretty basic strategy.
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Lethal Weapon got underway with 7.8m viewers (2.2) for Fox last night. Notable because ITV has picked it up in the UK.
A decent enough performance, albeit fairly unremarkable. A bigger eyecatcher on the night out of the debutants was ABC's Designated Survivor (9.95m/2.3) in the 10pm hour. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...-sept-21-2016/ |
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Lethal Weapon got underway with 7.8m viewers (2.2) for Fox last night. Notable because ITV has picked it up in the UK.
A decent enough performance, albeit fairly unremarkable. A bigger eyecatcher on the night out of the debutants was ABC's Designated Survivor (9.95m/2.3) in the 10pm hour. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...-sept-21-2016/ Not sure what to expect when ITV show it. Their track record with US imports isn't exactly good, although a procedural might be more up their alley than some of their other attempts. I still think it might be worth a shot on Tuesdays at 9pm, it can't do any worse than most of the crap they show there. I really hope they don't put it on Saturdays, it won't fit there at all. Very good start for Designated Survivor, ABC should be very happy with that. It was a decent night across the board actually. CBS did pretty well with their reality shows and NBC were steady enough, although I don't think Blindspot has much of a future ahead of it beyond this season. ABC's comedies put in some good numbers, albeit with some noticeable year on year declines. Incidentally, if you're into US ratings, I recommend this site: http://www.spottedratings.com You might be familiar with it already but there's a lot of interesting analysis on there and there's also a really good bank of historical ratings. |
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Has any UK broadcaster picked up Designated Survivor yet?
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A bit like not spending £75mil on a tent?
![]() What C4 can't have is a series of stories about how the revamped show is in crisis like Top Gear did. They can't let some other rival stir the pot. GBBO should make C4 a tidy profit as the brand is so strong but, as we saw with Top Gear, you can mess it up. What did the BBC hang on to? A race track, a hanger and a huge brand. To be fair, rebuilding Top Gear was 10x harder than rebuilding GBBO. |
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None of the film to TV adaptations made a second season last year so it'll be interesting if anything bucks the trend this year, I'm curious to see how MacGyver does for CBS as its part of their successful if old skewing Friday night. Bull seems lock for a full season pick up,
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Has any UK broadcaster picked up Designated Survivor yet?
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Not sure what to expect when ITV show it. Their track record with US imports isn't exactly good, although a procedural might be more up their alley than some of their other attempts. I still think it might be worth a shot on Tuesdays at 9pm, it can't do any worse than most of the crap they show there. I really hope they don't put it on Saturdays, it won't fit there at all..
Like you say, can't do worse. C5 pulled in over 2m. |
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Netflix has international rights to the show,
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Overnights.tv @overnightstv 23s24 seconds ago
The final BBC season of #GBBO continues to win: 10.2m / 44.0% yesterday @LoveProdHouse http://overnights.tv Another fantastic rating. Overnights.tv @overnightstv 2m2 minutes ago #OurGirl won the slot again with 4m / 19.5% @michkeegan @lucapasqualino @TonyGrounds http://overnights.tv Fantastic once again for GBBO. |
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Whilst Episode 1 was average, Episode 2 won a lot of praise and people saying it was an adrenaline run. I was looking at I Player and post Episode 2 the positive social media jumped both episodes up, so people were catching up.
It's had a lot of tabloids interested, so I differ with you, if Michelle Keegan wants to more I think the BBC will do it. There is some comment that continuity needs a bit of improvement. Well thread favourite Our Zoo did better numbers than Our Girl and that was axed. At that also followed Bake-Off getting overnights of 8m-9m. Our Girl is following Bake-Off getting 10-11m. I bet it will end on this series. |
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Well thread favourite Our Zoo did better numbers than Our Girl and that was axed. At that also followed Bake-Off getting overnights of 8m-9m. Our Girl is following Bake-Off getting 10-11m.
I bet it will end on this series. A potential big star I would say. |
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I can't help but think 4 have got it wrong again here- By nabbing Paul they invite far too many comparisons with the old one- Pale imitation etc... When it became clear Mary wasn't jumping I'd have said goodbye to Paul as well, at least then they might have a shot when the heat cools of making it a 'uniquely 4 bake off' and having a totally clean break might have stemmed the flow imo
That Channel 4 should launch GBBO completely fresh and the BBC a new show with the old team. That would have happened but for one thing. Paul and the money. And perhaps his true belief he is being loyal to the brand. But the result will be a weak and diluted Bake Off with plunging ratings and a better rating on BBC for their new show but possibly not quite as good as it might have been with the entire Bake Off team together. Although Paul is the most easily replaceable by the BBC so they will still be the easy winners here. Along with Paul's bank balance, of course. Though it would be unfair to criticise him for putting family first. The real losers are the British public who see both this show and whatever replacement the BBC provide somewhat fractured. All over a channel war. I dare say this will be sold to PR high heaven by both channels but the viewers will feel a sense of loss that need never have happened and I suspect that will haunt Paul's career more than he yet realises. |
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Along with Paul's bank balance, of course. Though it would be unfair to criticise him for putting family first.
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It's very difficult for Channel 4. If they start Bake Off again with a completely different team, location, brand, etc. then isn't it just any baking show? I suppose it depends on what people think makes Bake Off Bake Off. But because the lineup has never changed, it's impossible to tell.
I saw Nigella Lawson mentioned earlier, that would be a good pick. Although isn't she very BBC? |
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Lol! What a disaster! Hope Love enjoy the money because the shows going to be an absolute flop
![]() I love GBBO, it's a shame all this, it really is. I mainly like the three ladies, something off putting about Paul and I'm right as today has shown the greedy man, he's loaded already tbf not like he really needed this no integrity/loyalty BBC show not a channel 4 show, it's going to stick out like a sore thumb on that channel
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First things first. Has anyone else noticed Saturday's XF has been extended by 20-minutes? Now running 8.00-9.50pm - pushing back the entire night. Quote:
Overnights.tv @overnightstv 23s24 seconds ago
The final BBC season of #GBBO continues to win: 10.2m / 44.0% yesterday @LoveProdHouse http://overnights.tv Another fantastic rating. Quote:
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Shades of Blue (Sky Living): 0.07m (0.4%) Quote:
From ITV Media:
Wednesday Top 10 (inc. +1) 2 ITV - 07:30 PM Coronation Street 6.190m 33% 3 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 5.775m 33% Quote:
Patrick Foster @patrickfoster2 5m5 minutes ago
Breaking: Paul Hollywood signs deal to host #GBBO to Channel 4 And there we are. Quote:
A decent enough performance, albeit fairly unremarkable. A bigger eyecatcher on the night out of the debutants was ABC's Designated Survivor (9.95m/2.3) in the 10pm hour. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...-sept-21-2016/ |
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Twitter did not like Paranoid. Especially a female cop.
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First things first. Has anyone else noticed Saturday's XF has been extended by 20-minutes? Now running 8.00-9.50pm - pushing back the entire night.
With a 2 hour show on Sunday that is a lot of X Factor in one weekend! Clearly they were having trouble editing it down without it appearing rushed, which sounds odd when you think they had 3.5 hours to work with, but when you think they're getting through all 4 categories and there are around 15-16 acts in each category it is a lot to get through. They did it in 6 hours (across 3 shows) last year but I can see why they wanted it all in one weekend. It'll be a marathon and I'm not sure how it'll rate. I notice the scheduling for judges houses isn't great. 8.00-9.30pm on the Saturday and 7.30-9pm on the Sunday, which seems fine until you realise there's a 25 minute overlap on the Saturday and a 30 minute one on the Sunday. There's probably not much they could have done about the Saturday one but it'll really drag the Sunday show down. I presume it'll be 2 categories per night, so 45 mins for each category (30 mins of performances, 15 for results). They should have re-edited it to the old format, so they could have had a 2 hour show with all the performances on the Saturday (8-10pm) and a 1 hour show for the results on Sunday (8-9pm). That way they'd avoid the Sunday clash and the Saturday clash would be a smaller proportion of the show. Plus back in the day the Sunday judges houses results episode was massive as the whole series had built up to it. Whilst I don't think that would happen now, I reckon it'd do better than what they've done. |
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Good spot! I hadn't noticed.
With a 2 hour show on Sunday that is a lot of X Factor in one weekend! Clearly they were having trouble editing it down without it appearing rushed, which sounds odd when you think they had 3.5 hours to work with, but when you think they're getting through all 4 categories and there are around 15-16 acts in each category it is a lot to get through. They did it in 6 hours (across 3 shows) last year but I can see why they wanted it all in one weekend. It'll be a marathon and I'm not sure how it'll rate. I notice the scheduling for judges houses isn't great. 8.00-9.30pm on the Saturday and 7.30-9pm on the Sunday, which seems fine until you realise there's a 25 minute overlap on the Saturday and a 30 minute one on the Sunday. There's probably not much they could have done about the Saturday one but it'll really drag the Sunday show down. I presume it'll be 2 categories per night, so 45 mins for each category (30 mins of performances, 15 for results). They should have re-edited it to the old format, so they could have had a 2 hour show with all the performances on the Saturday (8-10pm) and a 1 hour show for the results on Sunday (8-9pm). That way they'd avoid the Sunday clash and the Saturday clash would be a smaller proportion of the show. Plus back in the day the Sunday judges houses results episode was massive as the whole series had built up to it. Whilst I don't think that would happen now, I reckon it'd do better than what they've done. Next week is a massive problem with those Strictly clashes. I'd probably push the Saturday show back to 8.30pm and run it till 10.00pm but like this week now, it's pushing everything else later. I like your idea of Saturday 8-10pm and Sunday 8-9pm though as well. It limits the clashes and like you say the Sunday show could be just finding out whose through. I don't like the format of finding out half one night and half the other. It doesn't work right for me. And yes, you're right about the Sunday judges houses show been huge when it was all announced on one night. That works better for the show IMO. |
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