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Old 23-09-2016, 06:46
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Some people on this thread haven't even thought of any other Motives for Paul to leave other then the money which just shows how carried away some people are getting. He wasn't getting a presenting job on top gear and who knows what if bbc were not offering any other shows that attracted him e.g daytime shows ( I do know that its a big if). With channel 4 he is definitely getting more money and they will definitely give him shows. So from a personal view the move is a great career choice and I wouldn't be surprised if he comes out with like an autobiography closer to when bake off starts on c4 describing how bbc didn't offer him anything to increase hype.
Is it such a great career move when the majority of people who watched Bake Off (and therefore may have been likely to watch new shows you were doing), think you only went there for the money, and probably won't watch anything you do now anyway?
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Old 23-09-2016, 07:00
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ITV has commissioned a second series of Victoria - The Sun
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Old 23-09-2016, 08:02
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Disappointing that the BBC took advantage of Paul Hollywood's courtesy.
Courtesy? Going by the reports, the BBC had otehr offers opeb for him, so it would be expected that he would have to inform them that he would not be in a position to accept those offers.

The whole thing has become a squabble between children.
PR can be (and often is) a rough business. If you can't take the knocks, don't play the game.
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Old 23-09-2016, 08:12
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That's nonsense. There is no common courtesy when one channel buys another channel's show or one person leaves one channel for another.
The courtesy was from Hollywood, not C4. It was Love Productions' show, not the BBC's.

A farmer can switch from selling his potatoes to Tesco, even if Asda had always had the exclusive rights to them.
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Old 23-09-2016, 08:18
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Courtesy? Going by the reports, the BBC had otehr offers opeb for him, so it would be expected that he would have to inform them that he would not be in a position to accept those offers.

PR can be (and often is) a rough business. If you can't take the knocks, don't play the game.
Absolutely true. It is a tough business. Nobody is a victim in this and all four people have made decisions that they think will work best for them. They probably all come out with more money over the long-term too.
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Old 23-09-2016, 09:24
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C5's Sunday night lineup is going the right way again. From October 3:



Not sure about double IRT though. One episode would suffice with Fool Us in Vegas brought forward.

At least big budget movies have returned to 9pm. Won't be disgraced with that lineup.
Oh dear there is already too much to watch at 8pm on a sunday
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Old 23-09-2016, 09:25
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If Twitter is a good guide, Red Dwarf did the polar opposite of Paranoid. Even Sheldon liked Red Dwarf.
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Old 23-09-2016, 09:27
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Lethal Weapon got underway with 7.8m viewers (2.2) for Fox last night. Notable because ITV has picked it up in the UK.

A decent enough performance, albeit fairly unremarkable. A bigger eyecatcher on the night out of the debutants was ABC's Designated Survivor (9.95m/2.3) in the 10pm hour.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...-sept-21-2016/
Americans seem to stay up watching TV much later in the US than here.
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Old 23-09-2016, 09:33
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Americans seem to stay up watching TV much later in the US than here.
Possibly because there isn't much worth watching on British TV after about 10.30 p.m. ?
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Old 23-09-2016, 09:36
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Possibly because there isn't much worth watching on British TV after about 10.30 p.m. ?
I get that but the 10-11 hour there seems to be similar to the 9-10 here and then they show interesting things after that there while they completely give up heer at 10.30 for some reason.
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Old 23-09-2016, 09:40
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ITV has commissioned a second series of Victoria - The Sun
No surprise at all and a deserved recommission.
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Old 23-09-2016, 09:44
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If Twitter is a good guide, Red Dwarf did the polar opposite of Paranoid. Even Sheldon liked Red Dwarf.
Paranoid should start well but I thought it was poor. A surprise considering the talent involved. I'll be watching The Fall from next week.
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Old 23-09-2016, 09:44
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Overnights.tv ‏@overnightstv 1m1 minute ago
#Paranoid started its run by winning its slot: 4.1m / 21.5% @RedProductionCo @indyv9 http://overnights.tv
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Old 23-09-2016, 09:49
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Red Dwarf (Dave): 0.75m (3.9%)
excluding Dave Ja Vu
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Old 23-09-2016, 09:50
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Red Dwarf (Dave): 0.75m (3.9%)
excluding Dave Ja Vu
Good, bad, Indifferent?
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Old 23-09-2016, 09:50
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From rzt.

Ingenious Animals: 2.08m (11.2%)
The Doctor Who Gave Up Drugs: 2.62m (13.6%)

Trust Me, I'm a Doctor: 1.82m (9.9%)
Brexit: A Very British Coup?: 1.36m (6.1%)

Paul O'Grady: For The Love of Dogs: 4.06m (21.8%) inc +1
Paranoid: 4.14m (21.5%) inc +1

George Clark's Amazing Spaces: 2.00m (10.7%) inc +1
Hunted: 1.61m (8.4%) inc +1

On Benefits: 1.23m (6.6%) inc +1
The Nightmare Neighbour Next Door: 1.28m (6.6)% inc +1
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Old 23-09-2016, 09:50
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Excluding +1:

George Clarke's Amazing Spaces: 1.60m (8.7%)
Hunted: 1.38m (7.3%)
The Nightmare Neighbour Next Door: 1.18m (6.1%)
On Benefits: 1.00m (5.4%)
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Old 23-09-2016, 09:56
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Red Dwarf (Dave): 0.75m (3.9%)
excluding Dave Ja Vu
Good, bad, Indifferent?
I'd say that was pretty decent for Red Dwarf especially when you consider the episode was up on preview for a week.
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Old 23-09-2016, 10:05
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Excluding +1:

Celebrity Juice (ITV2): 0.72m (5.0%)
Hollyoaks (E4): 0.60m (3.5%)
A League of Their Own (Sky 1): 0.34m (1.8%)
New Girl (E4): 0.24m (1.2%)
Chicago Fire (Sky Living): 0.11m (0.6%)
Nashville (Sky Living): 0.04m (0.3%)
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Old 23-09-2016, 10:07
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The courtesy was from Hollywood, not C4. It was Love Productions' show, not the BBC's.

A farmer can switch from selling his potatoes to Tesco, even if Asda had always had the exclusive rights to them.
And yet Mary Berry decided to stay and mentioned the BBC's role in her press release. Just like Mary, Paul Hollywood was offered shows on the BBC on the back of Bake Off. In the public's view they don't see courtesy just someone that left for more money and didn't leave with the others.

I see no reason for the BBC not to put out a statement. It's more positive PR for them and negative PR for Channel 4.
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Old 23-09-2016, 10:12
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Decent start for Paranoid.
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Old 23-09-2016, 10:22
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I'd say that was pretty decent for Red Dwarf especially when you consider the episode was up on preview for a week.
It wasn't a great ep though. For a series opener it needed to be funnier. Be interesting to see the figures next week - Is that ep online in advance too?

Decent start for Paranoid.
If the comments here as it aired are any indication it will drop like a stone next week.
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Old 23-09-2016, 10:27
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I get that but the 10-11 hour there seems to be similar to the 9-10 here and then they show interesting things after that there while they completely give up heer at 10.30 for some reason.
What you have to remember is there are different time zones in America. Something airing at 10pm in New York will be airing at 9pm in Houston, which means viewing figures can be slightly higher. But there is a tradition of late night tv in America that we don't have, at least 5m people watch The Tonight Show until 12:35 and there are at least 2m people on each of the other networks that keep watching until 1:35am. It's madness really but it's always been like that there.

It helps that their news hour is always 11pm, allowing more primetime stuff, whereas ours has always been 9 or 10, so British viewers are used to the news at 10 now.
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Old 23-09-2016, 10:27
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And yet Mary Berry decided to stay and mentioned the BBC's role in her press release. Just like Mary, Paul Hollywood was offered shows on the BBC on the back of Bake Off. In the public's view they don't see courtesy just someone that left for more money and didn't leave with the others.

I see no reason for the BBC not to put out a statement. It's more positive PR for them and negative PR for Channel 4.
Mary is supposedly the face of the BBC’s cooking universe. It's a fabulous gig and she's a wise choice. We don't know but my bet is that C4 want to make Paul one of the faces of C4. Both win. Maybe everybody wins. The public might have two shows instead of one and the taxpayer saves millions of pounds a year.
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Old 23-09-2016, 10:28
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No surprise at all and a deserved recommission.
Plus with Downton Abbey, Mr Selfridge and Home Fires all over, Victoria is the perfect vacancy of their next big period drama hit to sit alongside The Durrells.
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