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Decent start for Paranoid.
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If the comments here as it aired are any indication it will drop like a stone next week.
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It wasn't a great ep though. For a series opener it needed to be funnier. Be interesting to see the figures next week - Is that ep online in advance too?
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And what if Paul didn't want to do Top Gear or his own shows on the BBC? If he's the weak link of GBBO as many have said here, if he lacks charm etc then surely those shows won't be a success. If he loves doing Bake Off that much then it's a no brainer to stick with that show imo, rather than gamble on new formats which could flop just as easily as a C4 Bake Off.
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Mary is supposedly the face of the BBC’s cooking universe. It's a fabulous gig and she's a wise choice. We don't know but my bet is that C4 want to make Paul one of the faces of C4. Both win. Maybe everybody wins. The public might have two shows instead of one and the taxpayer saves millions of pounds a year.
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Paranoid may get hit next week as well as its up against the return of The Fall on BBC Two
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What you have to remember is there are different time zones in America. Something airing at 10pm in New York will be airing at 9pm in Houston, which means viewing figures can be slightly higher. But there is a tradition of late night tv in America that we don't have, at least 5m people watch The Tonight Show until 12:35 and there are at least 2m people on each of the other networks that keep watching until 1:35am. It's madness really but it's always been like that there.
It helps that their news hour is always 11pm, allowing more primetime stuff, whereas ours has always been 9 or 10, so British viewers are used to the news at 10 now. British people aren't conditioned to do things late. People used to eat dinner at 5pm; many probably still do. This week Barcelona v Atletico Madrid kicked off at 10pm Spanish time. In America NFL games finish at 11:30pm local time. Big basketball, baseball and ice hockey matches can finish at 1am if they go in to overtime. In London they panic if a sporting event or concert is going past 10pm. |
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C5's Sunday night lineup is going the right way again. From October 3:
Not sure about double IRT though. One episode would suffice with Fool Us in Vegas brought forward. At least big budget movies have returned to 9pm. Won't be disgraced with that lineup. |
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From rzt.
Ingenious Animals: 2.08m (11.2%) The Doctor Who Gave Up Drugs: 2.62m (13.6%) Trust Me, I'm a Doctor: 1.82m (9.9%) Brexit: A Very British Coup?: 1.36m (6.1%) Paul O'Grady: For The Love of Dogs: 4.06m (21.8%) inc +1 Paranoid: 4.14m (21.5%) inc +1 George Clark's Amazing Spaces: 2.00m (10.7%) inc +1 Hunted: 1.61m (8.4%) inc +1 On Benefits: 1.23m (6.6%) inc +1 The Nightmare Neighbour Next Door: 1.28m (6.6)% inc +1 BBC1 had a poor night. Looks like ITV flop zone. Though would undoubtably be lower on ITV. BIB Excellent. POG Dogs rises 500k from last week to a series high. No doubt helped by the higher rating programme at 9pm. Ch4 had an excellent night. Look at George Clarke. Property on 4 rates very well. Ch5 didn't have a bad night. But 1.2m are still watching Benefits. Surely they've seen everything they could have? It really feels like this series has been on all year? Red Dwarf returned well. Given its on a smaller channel, it did fine. I suspect it will be 800k inc Dave Ja Vu. |
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Paranoid may get hit next week as well as its up against the return of The Fall on BBC Two
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In a turn of events, looks like a good day for all except for BBC1.
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From ITV Media:
Thursday Top 10 (inc. +1) *Not tape checked 1 ITV - 08:00 PM Emmerdale 5.486m 30% * 2 BBC One - 07:30 PM EastEnders 5.477m 30% * 3 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 5.375m 31% * * Broadcast app has 5.95m (32.5%) for EastEnders (19:29-19:56) Emmerdale probably around 5.7m (?) tape checked 4 BBC One - 06:30 PM Regional News and Weather 4.731m 31% 5 BBC One - 06:00 PM BBC News at Six 4.233m 30% 6 ITV - 09:00 PM Paranoid 4.141m 21% 7 ITV - 08:30 PM Paul O'Grady: For the Love of Dogs 4.062m 22% 8 BBC One - 10:00 PM BBC News at Ten 3.381m 22% 9 BBC One - 07:00 PM The One Show 3.317m 19% 3.21m/18.6% tape checked 10 BBC One - 10:30 PM Regional News and Weather 2.951m 22% Thursday Top 10 (inc. +1) (not including the five main channels) 1 ITV2 - 10:00 PM Celebrity Juice 817k 5.6% 2 Dave - 09:00 PM Red Dwarf XI 810k 4.2% 3 E4 - 07:00 PM Hollyoaks 712k 4.1% 4 ITV2 - 10:50 PM Family Guy 536k 5.3% 5 ITV2 - 11:20 PM Family Guy 501k 6.5% 6 E4 - 08:30 PM The Big Bang Theory 487k 2.6% 7 Drama - 09:00 PM New Tricks 465k 2.4% 8 More4 - 09:00 PM My Floating Home 421k 2.2% 9 Film4 - 09:00 PM I, Frankenstein 404k 2.3% 10 ITV2 - 11:45 PM American Dad! 386k 7.0% |
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The BBC would be foolish, derelict even to not enforce the year gap in the contract and in the interim get their own Mary, Mel and Sue show on air. It'd be the perfect response to C4/LPs shoddy behaviour and all on its own could land a fatal blow to the remounted GBBO before it's even aired! Get the new show up and running in the existing Bake Off slot next year and people will flock to it.
All's fair in Love (Productions) and War! Maybe Simon Cowell is talking David Walliams and Matt Lucas in to presenting a new Food Glorious Food.
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From ITV Media:
Thursday Top 10 (inc. +1) *Not tape checked 1 ITV - 08:00 PM Emmerdale 5.486m 30% * 2 BBC One - 07:30 PM EastEnders 5.477m 30% * 3 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 5.375m 31% * * Broadcast app has 5.95m (32.5%) for EastEnders (19:29-19:56) Emmerdale probably around 5.8m tape checked 4 BBC One - 06:30 PM Regional News and Weather 4.731m 31% 5 BBC One - 06:00 PM BBC News at Six 4.233m 30% 6 ITV - 09:00 PM Paranoid 4.141m 21% 7 ITV - 08:30 PM Paul O'Grady: For the Love of Dogs 4.062m 22% 8 BBC One - 10:00 PM BBC News at Ten 3.381m 22% 9 BBC One - 07:00 PM The One Show 3.317m 19% 3.21m/18.6% tape checked 10 BBC One - 10:30 PM Regional News and Weather 2.951m 22% Thursday Top 10 (inc. +1) (not including the five main channels) 1 ITV2 - 10:00 PM Celebrity Juice 817k 5.6% 2 Dave - 09:00 PM Red Dwarf XI 810k 4.2% 3 E4 - 07:00 PM Hollyoaks 712k 4.1% 4 ITV2 - 10:50 PM Family Guy 536k 5.3% 5 ITV2 - 11:20 PM Family Guy 501k 6.5% 6 E4 - 08:30 PM The Big Bang Theory 487k 2.6% 7 Drama - 09:00 PM New Tricks 465k 2.4% 8 More4 - 09:00 PM My Floating Home 421k 2.2% 9 Film4 - 09:00 PM I, Frankenstein 404k 2.3% 10 ITV2 - 11:45 PM American Dad! 386k 7.0% Celebrity Juice is doing much better this series than the last two series. Red Dwarf did well I think. Should consolidate well over 1m. New Tricks repeating well on Drama. |
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Tonight. I don't think Paranoid looks like it will do very well. Good cast, cliche storyline. I think it'll launch with 4.1m, dropping next week Quite something to see Emmerdale ahead of EE in the ratings and closing on Corrie. I notice ITV Encore doesn't score good ratings. Maybe that isn't the best channel to launch new dramas (on a channel called encore). |
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And what if Paul didn't want to do Top Gear or his own shows on the BBC? If he's the weak link of GBBO as many have said here, if he lacks charm etc then surely those shows won't be a success. If he loves doing Bake Off that much then it's a no brainer to stick with that show imo, rather than gamble on new formats which could flop just as easily as a C4 Bake Off.
On the topic of ratings, a shame for Paranoid as whilst it didn't disgrace itself the only way is blatantly down. I actually really enjoyed it! |
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Red Dwarf (Dave): 0.75m (3.9%)
excluding Dave Ja Vu Red Dwarf series 8 episode 1 (18/02/99) 8,050,000 Red Dwarf series 9 episode 1 (10/04/09) 2,742,000 (including repeat) I think the 8 million was its highest ever audience bolstered by a cliff-hanger, a two year gap and associated highest ever hype and anticipation. Series 8 was dreadful though in my opinion and seemingly shared as figures dropped markedly to 4.2 million by the last episode. Red Dwarf was a massive cult hit for BBC2, much loved and talked about over 10 years from its low budget start in 1988. For me that 750k is rather a sad looking figure. |
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Totally agree. As a massive lurker of this thread I am finding some of the reactions quite OTT. Hollywood is not the devil incarnate for making his own decision about what he feels is best for him. Really, some folk need to get some perspective here.
On the topic of ratings, a shame for Paranoid as whilst it didn't disgrace itself the only way is blatantly down. I actually really enjoyed it! Today I read that the Chuckle Brothers might have been approached to host the Bake-Off. Now that would be fantastic if they got these two. |
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You nailed it.
Quite something to see Emmerdale ahead of EE in the ratings and closing on Corrie. I notice ITV Encore doesn't score good ratings. Maybe that isn't the best channel to launch new dramas (on a channel called encore). Yes Emmerdale is the strongest of the three. But its amazing how whilst both top Soaps have dropped millions YOY, Emmerdale has gradually dropped viewers (affected by the other two dropping), but the decline has been nowhere near as obvious. It would be nice to see Emmerdale actually top both, and give ITV a shock at what has happened to the beloved Corrie. |
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Today I read that the Chuckle Brothers might have been approached to host the Bake-Off. Now that would be fantastic if they got these two.
Chuckle Brothers are the go-to name when someone wants to spread a rumour too ridiculous to be true. Them or The Krankies usually. |
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Thursday Top 10 (inc. +1) *Not tape checked 1 ITV - 08:00 PM Emmerdale 5.486m 30% * 2 BBC One - 07:30 PM EastEnders 5.477m 30% * 3 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 5.375m 31% * * Broadcast app has 5.95m (32.5%) for EastEnders (19:29-19:56) Emmerdale probably around 5.7m (?) tape checked Quote:
Quite something to see Emmerdale ahead of EE
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Thursday Top 10 (inc. +1) *Not tape checked
1 ITV - 08:00 PM Emmerdale 5.486m 30% * 2 BBC One - 07:30 PM EastEnders 5.477m 30% * 3 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 5.375m 31% * * Broadcast app has 5.95m (32.5%) for EastEnders (19:29-19:56) Emmerdale probably around 5.7m (?) tape checked Sometimes I think I'm wasting my time on here. ![]() Now if you can just post us the top yearly ratings for EE and Corrie for the last 20 odd years....
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Some people on this thread haven't even thought of any other Motives for Paul to leave other then the money which just shows how carried away some people are getting. He wasn't getting a presenting job on top gear and who knows what if bbc were not offering any other shows that attracted him e.g daytime shows ( I do know that its a big if). With channel 4 he is definitely getting more money and they will definitely give him shows. So from a personal view the move is a great career choice and I wouldn't be surprised if he comes out with like an autobiography closer to when bake off starts on c4 describing how bbc didn't offer him anything to increase hype.
He is the John and Yoko of GBBO. I saw something similar happen when working on Strange But True? - obviously in nothing like as high a profile (aka none at all!) But the play out was not dissimilar with the BBC on that occasion battling with ITV. So I got to see the different factors that can be involved as that was not over money in any meaningful way at all but more about profile. |
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Nightmare Neighbour Next Door did well to run Hunted so close considering C4 spent an absolute bomb marketing Hunted and Nightmare Neighbour goes about its business rather more quietly. C4's overconfidence in Hunted yet to be rewarded, but maybe it can grow.
Paranoid started well for something which had me rolling my eyes at the description - so clichéd sounding it hurt. Looking at the reviews, I didn't miss an awful lot and I expect this one will be up against it staying north of 3.5m across its lengthy run. 8 episodes seems an awful lot. Red Dwarf did well but it doesn't look like it's going to be breaking records for Dave this time around. |
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Excluding +1:
On Benefits: 1.00m (5.4%) |
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I'm willing to bet The Fall willbeat Paranoid next week. Paranoid will drop to 3.3m and The Fall will launch with 3.4m
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And in two weeks its up against The Apprentice
![]() Pray for Paranoid. I can definitely see it under 3m before long. |
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