The Ratings Thread (Part 68)

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Andy23

26-09-2016

Originally Posted by marke09:
“digiguide has updated and is showing for Saturday 8 October Strictly Come Dancing from 6.45 to 8.50pm meaning a 50 minute clash”

How does that compare with the length and time slot of the same show last year?

Originally Posted by James J:
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I think a fair chunk of people watch Strictly then are all 'entertainment'ed out and watch XF the next day. If they were at the same time I wonder if more people would choose XF and watch Strictly later.”

Or choose Strictly and not bother with TXF at all as they've missed it.

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“The News would be a better lead in that YBF!!.

If I were ITV I would pull TXF forward to 7.30pm. Better to have a bigger clash, but start closer to SCD start time. Starting later and pushing TXF later into the night, the show is dented from SCD and dented from the later finish. But ITV have a habit of elongating the chat after the football which viewers just turn off automatically to BBC1.”

That's for two reasons, to get more ad breaks into the football as advertisers like that rare audience, and to improve the image of ITV football, however much a thankless task that is. If they were known for rushing off immediately they would be slated.

I know you are obsessed with TXF lead in, but at the end of the day it's up against SCD and whether it's the news, or YBF or The Chase you are talking about a rating going from 1.5m to 2.2m which isn't much in the great scheme of things.

H of De Vil

26-09-2016

Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“The XF still is underperforming, funny when I started typing that my spellcheck came up, " underpants " and I nearly felt like going with that. For a so called big event show, its performance is poor, it was dire, slight improvement but still way underperforming whatever and whoever try's to spin it. It should be at least at a level with SCD but got left behind.

Poldark has been gripping and people have been watching on IPlayer getting into it and now watching it live, Victoria of course gets a hand up with +1 but has done well for ITV, without +1 Poldark wins, the story is gripping, the views stunning, and the story moves on st a pace.”

And if Victoria was on BBC1 you could basically copy and paste what you've just said there, as you would do if the shows were on vice versa channels.

Poldark wins the head to head becsuse viewers know there is a +1 option available. If there wasn't Victoria would in all likely-hood be ahead. Look at the consolidated ratings.

Score

26-09-2016

Originally Posted by Fudd:
“If so what does this mean going forward? Will the BBC be tempted to push Strictly to 7pm every week if this works out to practically take up the heart of primetime? I thought they couldn't because of the recorded results show.

I'm a bit surprised that they're running away from England v Malta though. England v Scotland is understandable but Malta???”

Unlikely as they wouldn't be able to fit everything in. Match of The Day can't start later than 10.30pm. They're getting away with it that night as there's no Match of The Day. They could dump the lottery quiz and run Strictly later but given there's another series of Michael McIntyre's Big Show coming up I can't see them running Strictly later

sunbeam007

26-09-2016

Originally Posted by Score:
“Unlikely as they wouldn't be able to fit everything in. Match of The Day can't start later than 10.30pm. They're getting away with it that night as there's no Match of The Day. They could dump the lottery quiz and run Strictly later but given there's another series of Michael McIntyre's Big Show coming up I can't see them running Strictly later”

The other danger for the BBC is they are using SCD as muscle and once you do that you can't complain if something comes along and bites you. ITV have a few new formats lined up and if any of them do well there's always a possibility it gets moved to the autumn.

People will record the XF if it clashes with SCD because of adverts. But if ITV had a second popularish show at 6:30pm - well people might just choose to watch ITV and tape the one programme on BBC.

I actually don't understand why they want Takeaway on in February so close to BGT and then go six months with no Ant and Dec. Stick Takeaway in September and October in the Noel's House Party 6:30 slot with XF at around 7:45 leaving a few weeks before IAC.

Risky I know. Ballsy.

Fudd

26-09-2016

It's time for a new season of the DS Ratings Prediction Game!

With week one upon us it's time predict how returning drama The Fall will figure, whether The Level will be at a good level and how Morgana Robinson's The Agency will pull in the viewers. Will Strictly be up year-on-year for it's results and how will The X Factor do for the first Judge's House show of the series? Could Ambulance put the BBC One 9pm slot in need of life support or race away from the opposition? Is Damned damned from the off?

Why not have a go at predicting accordingly? Everyone's welcome, whetehr you're a new player, lapsed or a regular! Just click HERE, left click 'Quote', delete the quote marks and get predicting!

Thank you to everyone who takes part in advance.

Pizzatheaction

26-09-2016

https://twitter.com/Aleksandr_Orlov/...424?lang=en-gb I want to call it that from now on.

Originally Posted by Ginger Daddy:
“Cheers. What is "rzt", anyway?”

How soon they forget!

Ginger Daddy

26-09-2016

Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“https://twitter.com/Aleksandr_Orlov/...424?lang=en-gb I want to call it that from now on.

How soon they forget! ”

I honestly didn't know! Haven't been in this thread too often.

davey_wavey

26-09-2016

Originally Posted by Aaron_2015:
“Please stop plugging your blog. The blog post has no relevance whatsoever to the discussion.

On a different note, ITV on the whole seems to be picking up a little. Tuesdays are still proving to be a major issue, as well as pre/post X Factor on Saturdays.”

I am quite impressed with ITV lately. They are making a real splash with drama, and I'm glad they showed faith in shows like Newzoids even if it's rating poorly. Even though I was expecting Cold Feet to rate better I think they will renew it as they need more relationship type dramas. I actually think Go For It with Stephen Mulhern is a good little show too as a warm up to the main event of the X Factor.

Like you say Tuesday is still proving to be a big issue.

James J

26-09-2016

Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“How soon they forget! ”

thengp12

26-09-2016

Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“A little surprising that SCD would run away from the football. It's only against Malta. I actually didn't know who England were even playing which sums things up.

Maybe ITV should get the England game put back half an hour. Expect a slightly late kick off and plenty of stoppage time!
Simplest solution is to swap YBF with The Chase.

Strictly will have one fewer dance but still be on for the same running time. The BBC is bringing the wood.”

Week 3 is a Theme Week and has an opening group number that takes up the length of a dance with the packages before and after it.

Fudd

26-09-2016

I still don't get why they're moving it later. Is England v Malta really that dangerous an opposition compared to The X Factor?

sunbeam007

26-09-2016

Originally Posted by thengp12:
“Week 3 is a Theme Week and has an opening group number that takes up the length of a dance with the packages before and after it.”

Ah right, thanks. In subsequent weeks I think they shave five minutes but I might have that wrong too.

Roscoe Barnes

26-09-2016

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“The X Factor: 7.09m (32.7%) inc +1
* peak: 8.46m (35.0%) at 20:50

Victoria: 5.26m (24.1%) inc +1

Poldark: 5.15m (23.5%)”

After Saturday's rating of 7.1m, I was expecting Sunday to be around 6.5m.

Victoria and Poldark continue to do well.

Originally Posted by marke09:
“digiguide has updated and is showing for Saturday 8 October Strictly Come Dancing from 6.45 to 8.50pm meaning a 50 minute clash”

Is that confirmed yet? Could it change? That's a very late finish for Strictly.

Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“From ITV Media:

Friday Top 10 (inc. +1) (not including the five main channels)

4 5* - 06:30 PM Home and Away 473k 3.1%”

Decent for Friday's first look Home and Away which featured the start of the plane crash storyline. Surprised they're doing another big stunt so shortly after the caravan park explosion. It was a good episode though.

sn_22

27-09-2016

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“So does anyone have any idea why Poldark jumped over 5m last night and recorded a series high? For the first 3 weeks its been dropping. If last night timeshifts 1.5m like last weeks ep, it''l have a consolidated rating of 6.7/6.8m

Cold Feet held steady. Hopefully it can rise tonight. I think its done enough for a recommission....just.”

No single reason for Poldark, I don't think - though the BBC One Sunday line up does tend to grow into autumn, so it should benefit from a stronger AR & Countryfile for the second half of its run, all boosted by Strictly's return. Victoria finishes in a few weeks too, which may help further. I imagine the BBC will be quite pleased - I don't think it's been doing badly in the circumstances, but they may have hoped for more so a nice strong finish will do the show good.

I think Cold Feet will get another series. The figures might not be a smash hit, but they're still better than most and its been well received. So I don't see any reason why not.

Fudd

27-09-2016

H of De Vil

27-09-2016

Originally Posted by sn_22:
“No single reason for Poldark, I don't think - though the BBC One Sunday line up does tend to grow into autumn, so it should benefit from a stronger AR & Countryfile for the second half of its run, all boosted by Strictly's return. Victoria finishes in a few weeks too, which may help further. I imagine the BBC will be quite pleased - I don't think it's been doing badly in the circumstances, but they may have hoped for more so a nice strong finish will do the show good.

I think Cold Feet will get another series. The figures might not be a smash hit, but they're still better than most and its been well received. So I don't see any reason why not.”

Tutankhamun will take the place of Victoria. I can't see the former doing much over 4.5m, so I suspect Poldark will get an automatic boost. That and SCD return to Sunday.

Ginger Daddy

27-09-2016

Originally Posted by Fudd:
“It's time for a new season of the DS Ratings Prediction Game!

With week one upon us it's time predict how returning drama The Fall will figure, whether The Level will be at a good level and how Morgana Robinson's The Agency will pull in the viewers. Will Strictly be up year-on-year for it's results and how will The X Factor do for the first Judge's House show of the series? Could Ambulance put the BBC One 9pm slot in need of life support or race away from the opposition? Is Damned damned from the off?

Why not have a go at predicting accordingly? Everyone's welcome, whetehr you're a new player, lapsed or a regular! Just click HERE, left click 'Quote', delete the quote marks and get predicting!

Thank you to everyone who takes part in advance.

”

Why don't you post it a third time on this page, just for luck?

Fudd

27-09-2016

Originally Posted by Ginger Daddy:
“Why don't you post it a third time on this page, just for luck?”

I think I need more than luck.

Steve Williams

27-09-2016

Originally Posted by Fudd:
“I still don't get why they're moving it later. Is England v Malta really that dangerous an opposition compared to The X Factor?”

It doesn't matter that they're playing Malta - it's England. People watch England play anyone. That's why Wembley sells out even when they're playing San Marino.

Ginger Daddy

27-09-2016

Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“OK, here we go...

Saturday 1.15-4.30pm, BBC1 - 716k (9%)
Saturday 6.30-10.15pm, BBC2 - 704k (3.6%)
Sunday 1-4.25pm, BBC2 - 585k (7%)
Sunday 6.30-9.25pm, BBC2 - 927k (4.4%)
.”

Do you have a peak for these programmes, Steve?

ftv

27-09-2016

MOTD can and has started later than 2230

Markynotts

27-09-2016

Morgana Robinsons The Agency began on BBC Two with 838k (5.4%)

lewiep93

27-09-2016

Channel 4 Press ‏@C4Press 3m3 minutes ago
#FirstDates won the highest share of young viewers last night at 10pm with 11.5%. Average audience of 1m, up +29% on slot average

Ray Tings

27-09-2016

BBC1
EastEnders: 6.01m (29.7%)
BBC News (10pm): 3.52m (23.0%)
The One Show: 3.50m (19.8%)

BBC2
University Challenge: 2.58m (12.8%)
Only Connect: 2.08m (10.2%)
Ripper Street: 1.74m (8.6%)

BBC4
Kew's Forgotten Queen: 0.48m (2.4%)
Addicted to Sheep (R): 0.28m (1.4%)
British Gardens in Time (R): 0.23m (1.7%)

Channel 4 (exc. +1)
Food Unwrapped: 1.39m (6.8%)
999: What's Your Emergency?: 1.26m (6.2%)
First Dates: 0.90m (6.6%)

Channel 5 (exc. +1)
Police Interceptors: 1.09m (5.4%)
Secrets of the SAS: In Their Own Words: 0.95m (4.7%)
Can't Pay? We'll Take It Away! (R): 0.69m (5.0%)

Straker

27-09-2016

Originally Posted by Markynotts:
“Morgana Robinsons The Agency began on BBC Two with 838k (5.4%)”

Not a particularly auspicious start. Deserved better and it had enough trails to warrant more viewers.

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