The Ratings Thread (Part 68)

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mlt11

03-10-2016

Thanks to you both - great info - and at great speed!

On the face of it 1.4m looks a bit disappointing then - I would expect it to be lower than 2012 - but the lower level of excitement wouldn't justify a fall to anything like that degree.

We often hear about viewing on "other" devices not counted by BARB - whether that really is having a discernible impact I don't know but I guess there is a possibility it may explain some of the fall. I don't read this thread as much as I used to - I don't know whether anyone on here has any analysis on this issue.

cylon6

03-10-2016

Originally Posted by thengp12:
“Can someone point me to a link of the Friday 23rd September and Sunday 1st October Strictly come Dancing audiance share % please? Thank You.”

Strictly Come Dancing:

Friday 23rd September: 7.21m (34.4%)
* peak: 7.56m (35.3%) at 21:50

Saturday 1st October: 9.18m (44.6)
* peak 10.25m (48.2) at 7.45

Sunday 2nd October: 8.15m (36.6%)
* peak: 8.62m (36.3%) at 19:45

Ginger Daddy

03-10-2016

A quick question: an overnight figure posted on this thread has gone done in numbers on the Barb website 7 day figure.

How and why does this occur? I thought that figures could only go up once on demand and PVR viewers are taken into account?

Jokanovic

03-10-2016

Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“
HoneyG will draw more rating .”

So use think audience figures will be up because of her ?

RickLopez

03-10-2016

Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“2.67m (12.3%)”

That's a really great rating for the Theroux documentary, much higher than I imagined which is maybe why the two dramas were down?

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“From Saturday:

Robin Parker ‏@robinparker55 12m12 minutes ago
BBC2 Saturday arts night met with a shrug: Betjeman 740k/ railway poetry 580k/ Kate Tempest 180k/ Artsnight 110k. BBC4 ahead most of the way

And from Friday (can't remember if this was posted):
Overnights.tv ‏@overnightstv 48s49 seconds ago
#GrahamNorton returned on Friday to BBC One with @AnnaKendrick47 to be watched by 3.3m and 26.7% @grahnort http://overnights.tv”

Thanks for posting these, I think that's good for Graham Norton but disappointing for BBC2 poetry, not sure what they were expecting but the reviews for Kate Tempest were good.

Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“10 BBC Two - 09:00 PM Louis Theroux - Savile 2.668m 12%”

Making the top 10 is even better.

thengp12

03-10-2016

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“
Strictly Come Dancing:

Friday 23rd September: 7.21m (34.4%)
* peak: 7.56m (35.3%) at 21:50

Saturday 1st October: 9.18m (44.6)
* peak 10.25m (48.2) at 7.45

Sunday 2nd October: 8.15m (36.6%)
* peak: 8.62m (36.3%) at 19:45”

Thank you for the data. I am currently curating the ratings for the show on Wikipedia and they are a bit anal about the figures being citated with web links like twitter and the like.(I know it is so annoying)

Last year, I just used DS articles but they don't upload the ratings % anymore so I am working on scraps now.

Ray Tings

03-10-2016

Originally Posted by Ginger Daddy:
“A quick question: an overnight figure posted on this thread has gone done in numbers on the Barb website 7 day figure.

How and why does this occur? I thought that figures could only go up once on demand and PVR viewers are taken into account?”

It may not have been shown in all regions at the same time.
Which programme?

glorafin

03-10-2016

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“From Saturday:
BBC2 Saturday arts night met with a shrug: Betjeman 740k/ railway poetry 580k/ Kate Tempest 180k/ Artsnight 110k. BBC4 ahead most of the way”

Thanks for these numbers.

Interesting to see that, contrary to what optimists believe, you can't just put art programmes on a major channel and hope they'll automatically meet a mass audience. 180k must be significantly lower than the channel average for a Saturday night.

That's a pity because the Kate Tempest show had moments of brilliance, despite one or two naffer moments.

On the other hand, that must be one of the highest ratings ever for a live poetry reading.

A.D.P

03-10-2016

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“From rzt

Sunday 2nd October Overnights
BBC One
Countryfile: 5.64m (31.7%)
Strictly Come Dancing: 8.15m (36.6%)
* peak: 8.62m (36.3%) at 19:45
Antiques Roadshow: 5.11m (22.5%)
Poldark: 4.63m (20.7%)

ITV (inc +1)
The Chase: Celebrity Special: 2.87m (15.4%)
The X Factor: 6.37m (27.9%)
* peak: 7.72m (32.4%) at 20:50
Victoria: 4.96m (22.2%)

I'm never predicting anything again

I wouldn't call Poldark a failure but it hasn't set the ratings alight this year.”

Originally Posted by Markynotts:
“I think Poldark had an easier ride for it's first series with a delay going into the second not exactly helping it.

SCD doing well for a Sunday and TXF peaking as people turn on for Victoria again ? It is going to hang around those 6 numbers for the live shows, which I guess is ok, but nothing spectacular.”

Originally Posted by Score:
“Bit of a naff rating for XF. In fairness it's in line with the Sunday judges houses show last year but that isn't something to shout about. The scheduling was terrible but I'm surprised the peak was so low. Something similar happened with the Sunday judges houses show in 2013 (the only other year they used this format) so it isn't entirely surprising but it's not good really. As for how last night's results will impact it going forwards...I'm not sure.

The 9pm dramas both look a bit low too.”

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“From rzt:
Saturday 24th September Consolidated ratings:
Strictly Come Dancing- 10.13m (+1.49m timeshift)
The X Factor: 8.77m inc +1 (+1.69m timeshift)

Sunday 25th September Consolidated ratings are not out yet. But rough estimations seem to be: X Factor: c.8.5m (inc +1), Victoria: c.7.6m (inc +1), Poldark: c.6.5m

And a breakdown:

Code:

Time BBC 1 ITV (inc. +1) 18:00 3.96m (25.1%) 1.51m (9.6%) 18:05 4.28m (26.8%) 1.40m (8.8%) 18:10 4.48m (27.3%) 1.51m (9.2%) 18:15 4.29m (25.9%) 1.69m (10.2%) 18:20 4.40m (26.1%) 1.91m (11.4%) 18:25 4.60m (26.9%) 2.10m (12.3%) 18:30 5.01m (28.9%) 2.05m (11.8%) 18:35 5.27m (30.2%) 2.13m (12.2%) 18:40 5.45m (31.0%) 2.35m (13.4%) 18:45 5.62m (31.7%) 2.53m (14.3%) 18:50 5.89m (32.7%) 2.71m (15.0%) 18:55 6.25m (34.4%) 2.83m (15.6%) 19:00 6.54m (35.3%) 3.12m (16.8%) 19:05 6.92m (36.8%) 3.20m (17.0%) 19:10 7.41m (38.6%) 3.42m (17.8%) 19:15 7.55m (38.1%) 3.17m (16.0%) 19:20 7.98m (38.5%) 3.24m (15.6%) 19:25 8.24m (39.3%) 2.88m (13.7%) 19:30 8.56m (37.1%) 4.92m (21.4%) 19:35 8.31m (35.4%) 5.45m (23.4%) 19:40 8.29m (37.1%) 4.42m (19.8%) 19:45 8.62m (36.3%) 5.44m (22.9%) 19:50 8.55m (35.4%) 5.90m (24.4%) 19:55 7.24m (32.4%) 5.02m (22.5%) 20:00 5.07m (22.4%) 7.22m (32.0%) 20:05 4.79m (21.1%) 7.35m (32.3%) 20:10 4.96m (23.5%) 5.48m (26.0%) 20:15 4.94m (22.0%) 6.91m (30.7%) 20:20 4.89m (21.5%) 7.28m (32.0%) 20:25 5.05m (22.5%) 6.69m (29.9%) 20:30 5.05m (22.5%) 6.64m (29.5%) 20:35 5.15m (22.1%) 7.55m (32.4%) 20:40 5.21m (22.6%) 7.24m (31.4%) 20:45 5.45m (24.4%) 6.45m (28.9%) 20:50 5.43m (22.8%) 7.72m (32.4%) 20:55 5.32m (22.8%) 6.95m (29.8%) 21:00 4.90m (21.6%) 5.55m (24.5%) 21:05 4.81m (20.9%) 5.51m (23.9%) 21:10 4.74m (20.8%) 5.39m (23.7%) 21:15 4.74m (21.6%) 4.44m (20.3%) 21:20 4.64m (20.2%) 5.21m (22.7%) 21:25 4.58m (20.3%) 5.19m (23.0%) 21:30 4.62m (21.0%) 4.60m (20.9%) 21:35 4.56m (20.4%) 4.73m (21.2%) 21:40 4.56m (20.5%) 4.94m (22.1%) 21:45 4.56m (21.0%) 4.28m (19.6%) 21:50 4.57m (20.4%) 4.77m (21.3%) 21:55 4.28m (19.7%) 4.94m (22.8%) 22:00 3.89m (20.1%) 3.43m (17.7%) 22:05 4.24m (23.0%) 2.00m (10.9%) 22:10 4.27m (23.4%) 1.86m (10.2%) 22:15 4.66m (27.7%) 1.82m (10.8%) 22:20 4.53m (28.4%) 1.29m (8.1%) 22:25 4.38m (28.6%) 842.7k (5.5%)

”

Originally Posted by Markynotts:
“TXF not even cracking 9 million in consolidated numbers is quite poor.

Good numbers for Victoria and Poldark, great to see two dramas going head to head and bringing in decent numbers between them.”

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“So everyone was making a mountain out of a molehill yesterday? I think not.

That share looks really low to me, as does the peak. And given the overwhelmingly negative reaction to the acts put through, I can see the lives proving a struggle as well.”

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Thanks lewi.

Actually I'm quite suprised at some of these ratings. I expected BBC1 to be higher for all programmes. Poldark has just hit a series low (as did Victoria) with SCD in the schedule.

The Chase isn't doing too badly, though I'm pretty sure a regular edition would be doing better. The lower rating for this compared with Pointless it also the fact that TC and TXF don't share as similar demo, as Pointless does with SCD. The Chase would probably do better leading into BGT, and have Take Me Out leading into TXF.

TXF is poor, and its only just going to get worse. They had an audience willing to watch a another series if they didn't piss about, and actually make a good show. They had 10m+ consolidated at one point. But now they have shot themselves in the foot, they have no-one to blame but themselves, if the ratings fall off a cliff. Based on this, I expect next Saturday show too be around 6m. ITV relying on a YBF rpt as a lead in to to give TXF a leg up? Well what do they expect.....a miracle.

It looks to me like both parties (ITV and Syco) are trying to kill the show off. Poor lead in, poor content.

Lets hope the two waste of spaces put through both go out week 1, and steady the ship. But tbh, I expect the talent to be voted out and the rubbish to continue on.”

I generally agree with all these comments, the " honest" truth is out there and more and more, everyone is starting to agree that the XF is under performing, it's not making any mountain out of a molehill, it's really on the slide, and beyond disappointing.

I know there are one/ two posters who support the XF and tend to make a big noise about it, and reply back quickly, trying to be positive on the dire XF ratings, but fact is fact is fact, it is way under performing. The changes this year haven't arrested the decline, they blamed, Nick, Caroline unfairly last year, - OK Olly was bad, but the negativity even in the pro XF forum here is building week by week.

Many posted they will not watch again last night, Loius is beyond a joke, away with the fairies, Simon so out of touch, so in the 1960s - "take your make up off, Luv," how to upset 50% of the population there, so un PC, must have read the Donald Trump guide to speaking to women there. The show is stuck in some kind of time warp, they need the Doctor to bring them all into 2016!

Poldark was fantastic last night, pity the ratings have slid a bit but seems to always be high on IPlayer, each week they do so much, another main character was lost in a tearful and dramatic way.

SCD gets the viewers in through the turnstiles, it shows how much XF has fallen and that the viewers are there just avoid XF.

cylon6

03-10-2016

Originally Posted by thengp12:
“Thank you for the data. I am currently curating the ratings for the show on Wikipedia and they are a bit anal about the figures being citated with web links like twitter and the like.(I know it is so annoying)

Last year, I just used DS articles but they don't upload the ratings % anymore so I am working on scraps now.”

I didn't realise it was so complicated. Makes sense as there aren't many ratings reports to link to. What about linking to posts on here?

Andy23

03-10-2016

Another over the top ADP post there, hammering his opinion home by quoting 100 posts with no trimming what so ever.

H of De Vil

03-10-2016

7.65m for Victoria consolidated V an overnight of 5.26m. +2.39m

6.5m for Poldark consolidated V an overnight of 5.15m. +1.35m

Despite similar overnights, Victoria has managed to extend to lead in consolidated ratings. Its not often an ITV drama can outmuscle an BBC drama, especially one that has been trumpeted so much. And that two dramas can rate well alongside each other. This time last year we were predicting that Poldark would likely kill off Victoria if ITv didn't launch it first.

Clearly the 1st series recieved many floating viewers.

Victoria in its consolidated ratings are remarkably consistent.

sunbeam007

03-10-2016

Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“Is it scorchio?”

Haha. 26° but too cloudy - though you don't mind that at the start of your hols. They're on the same timezone too which has completely confused 3/Moviestar who keep giving me Spanish time. I had to change my phone clock manually - took me 10 minutes to work that out!

Back on topic... Err X Factor!! It is a nonsense to call this bit a fix because it's not the viewers vote. It's not really a fix if the show decided to put different people through than what the show might have done.

If you're a good singer and want to go on a talent show, go on BGT. That puts people through who aren't all that.

Ginger Daddy

03-10-2016

Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“It may not have been shown in all regions at the same time.
Which programme?”

The live darts on BBC last Sunday evening. 926k overnight has turned to 0.85m on the Barb website (30th place for the week on that channel)

sunbeam007

03-10-2016

Originally Posted by Jokanovic:
“So use think audience figures will be up because of her ?”

Yes. I bet she doesn't perform during the clash with SCD. She has the ability to become a Chico who gets some watercooler action.

When I looked at that list of finalists I least impressed by Nicole's picks. They'll soon go once the teen vote gets swamped.

Brookes I hear are managed by Sinitta. They won't last either. I've no idea what Simon relationship story is.

LHolmes

03-10-2016

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Despite similar overnights, Victoria has managed to extend to lead in consolidated ratings. Its not often an ITV drama can outmuscle an BBC drama, especially one that has been trumpeted so much. And that two dramas can rate well alongside each other. This time last year we were predicting that Poldark would likely kill off Victoria if ITv didn't launch it first.”

Technically they're both ITV dramas.

Both would be higher away from each other. One was always going to lose out in the battle but I would say Poldark's ratings are still respectable. I think it's already been recommissioned anyway.

Ray Tings

03-10-2016

Originally Posted by Ginger Daddy:
“The live darts on BBC last Sunday evening. 926k overnight has turned to 0.85m on the Barb website (30th place for the week on that channel)”

Perhaps it's because Scotland joined it at 7pm.

sunbeam007

03-10-2016

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Top Ten Most Watched Shows w/e 25 September:
The Great British Bake Off - 13.12m
Strictly Come Dancing (Sat) - 10.13m
The X Factor (Sat) - 8.73m (8.40m exc. +1)
Coronation Street (Mon 1930) - 7.82m (7.71m exc. +1)
Victoria - 7.65m (6.88m exc. +1)
Cold Feet - 6.91m (6.50m exc. +1)
EastEnders (Mon) - 6.86m
Emmerdale (Wed) - 6.58m (6.39m exc. +1)
Poldark - 6.54m
Antiques Roadshow - 5.97m

Some other notable officials:
Strictly Come Dancing (Fri) - 9.30m
The X Factor - 8.52m (7.94m exc. +1)
Our Girl - 5.54m
Paranoid - 5.52m (5.16m exc. +1)
Casualty - 5.39m
.”

A lot of posts have been quoted about how the XF is in crisis and hasn't recovered and the changes are failing and how SCD thrashes it and how the negative hot takes means it is in doooomed...

3rd most watched show on then. Third. In autumn. Exclude the adverts and it's about 1m below SCD.
Paranoid beat Casualty and matched Our Girl. Both were closer to Poldark than Victoria was.

How many watched episode 2 of Paranoid though is the $64m...

sw2963

03-10-2016

Judge Rinder effect? The most views on Strictly Youtube?

erzrocks

03-10-2016

I think ADP just hates adverts

Mr Sirs

03-10-2016

Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Another over the top ADP post there, hammering his opinion home by quoting 100 posts with no trimming what so ever.”

For someone who hates ITV & Simon Cowell/X Factor so much he has an awful lot to say about it...I feel another "sketch" coming on...

Score

03-10-2016

@ITVMedia
Last night's @TheXFactor on @ITV was the most watched programme of the day for 16-34s with an incredible 43% share #JudgesHouses #XFactor

Dan R

03-10-2016

Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“For someone who hates ITV & Simon Cowell/X Factor so much he has an awful lot to say about it...I feel another "sketch" coming on... ”

I dug it up if anyone wants reminding.

Spoiler

RickLopez

03-10-2016

Originally Posted by Dan R:
“I dug it up if anyone wants reminding.

Spoiler

A viewer complains by phone to SyCo
Mr. Praline: 'Ello, I wish to register a complaint.
(The owner does not respond.)
Mr. Praline: 'Ello, Miss? Flack?
Owner SyCo: What do you mean " Miss Flack"
Mr. Praline: (pause)I'm sorry, I have a cold. I wish to make a complaint!
Owner: We're closin' for the Rugby.
Mr. Praline: Never mind that, my lad. I wish to complain about this talent show what I started to watch not half an hour ago from this very TV station.
Owner: Oh yes, the, uh, the X Factor What's,uh...What's wrong with it?
Mr. Praline: I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. 'it's dead, that's what's wrong with it!
Owner: No, no, 'e's uh,...it's doing very well.
Mr. Praline: Look, matey, I know a dead show when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.
Owner: No no is not dead, he's, he's crying'! Remarkable bird, the Caroline idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!
Mr. Praline: The plumage don't enter into it. It's stone dead.
Owner: Nononono, no, no! it's doing very well with catch up, and plus One!
Mr. Praline: All right then, if its alive I'll wake it up! (shouting at the TV) 'Ello, Mister Cowell! I've got a lovely fresh Olly for you if you show...
(owner hits the Ads)
Owner: There, it's interesting.
Mr. Praline: No, it's not that was you hitting the Ads!
Owner: I never!!
Mr. Praline: Yes, you did!
Owner: I never, never did anything...
Mr. Praline: (yelling and hitting the TV repeatedly) 'ELLO SIMON!!!!! Testing! Testing! Testing! Testing! This is your seven o'clock alarm call!
(Can you sing? Simon can you sing? Nick can you sing? Cheryl can you sing?)
Mr. Praline: Now that's what I call a dead Talent show.
Owner: No, no.....No, 'it's stunned!
Mr. Praline: STUNNED?!?
Owner: Yeah! You stunned it, just as it was wakin' up! The Caroline and Olly stun easily, major.
Mr. Praline: Um...now look...now look, mate, I've definitely 'ad enough of this. That show is definitely deceased, and when I started watching it not 'alf an hour ago, you assured me that its total lack of content and movement was due to it bein' tired and shagged out following a prolonged run here and in the USA!
Owner: Well, it's...it's, ah...probably pining for the voice.
Mr. Praline: PININ' for the Voice ?!?!?!? What kind of talk is that?, look, why did the show fall flat on is back the moment I got 'im home and switched on.
Owner: The judges prefer keepin' on their back! Remarkable bird, the Caroline id'nit, squire? Lovely plumage!
Mr. Praline: Look, I took the liberty of examining that show when I got it home, and I discovered the only reason that it had been on in the first place was that it had been NAILED there. They kept saying they nailed it, they nailed it. Then they smashed it.
(pause)
Owner: Well, o'course it was nailed there! If They hadn't nailed it, they would have smashed it, or owned it, but if I am honest with you the singer would have nuzzled up to the screen bent the speakers apart with its beat and VOOM! Freeview!
Mr. Praline: "VOOM"?!? Mate, this show wouldn't "voom" if you put four million volts through it! 'It's bleedin' demised!
Owner: No no! 'It's pining for the voice. Those spinning chairs.
Mr. Praline: 'It's not spinin'! 'It's passed on! It's so 70's This show is no more! It has ceased to be! 'Its expired and gone to meet 'it's producer SyCo! 'It's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed it in the schedule for three years it be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!! THIS IS AN EX-Factor!!
(pause)
Owner: Well, I'd better replace it, then. (he takes a quick peek in the Radio Times) Sorry squire, I've had a look 'round the back of the shop, and uh, we're right out of Judges.
Mr. Praline: I see. I see, I get the picture.
Owner: (pause) I got Ant and Dec!
(pause)
Mr. Praline: Pray, do they talk English ?
Owner: Nnnnot really.
Mr. Praline: WELL IT'S HARDLY A BLOODY REPLACEMENT, IS IT?!!???!!?
Owner: N-no, I guess not. (gets ashamed, looks at his feet)
Mr. Praline: Well.
(pause)
Owner: Look, if you go to BBC1 they have Tess on, and it's very good, she's from near Bolton, she will be better for you, with a Claudia she does talk.
Mr. Praline: Bolton, eh? Very well.
(The customer leaves.)
Sergeant-Major: Quite agree, quite agree, too silly, far too silly... (takes viewer by the arm) Come on, you, you've got to go do another sketch now! Come on... (he walks off stage left, followed by the director and cameramen, leaving Simon alone on the set)
Owner: (to the audience) Well! I never wanted to do this in the first place. I wanted to be... a lumberjack!

”

Uh? What is that?

Mr Sirs

03-10-2016

Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“Uh? What is that?”

Urgh...

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