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Old 03-10-2016, 20:26
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From rzt

Sunday 2nd October Overnights
BBC One
Strictly Come Dancing: 8.15m (36.6%)
* peak: 8.62m (36.3%) at 19:45

ITV (inc +1)
The X Factor: 6.37m (27.9%)
* peak: 7.72m (32.4%) at 20:50

Decent enough for Strictly. Last year that episode averaged 7.8m which clashed with a 2-hour XF for 6 chairs. Speaking of XF. That is poor but expected. Marginally down on last years second judges houses episode too. I do fear for it on Saturday when it clashes with Strictly for 50-minutes. Last years first live show averaged 5.6m. Could it be lower than that this time around?!

From rzt:
Saturday 24th September Consolidated ratings:
Strictly Come Dancing- 10.13m (+1.49m timeshift)
The X Factor: 8.77m inc +1 (+1.69m timeshift)
Superb time-shifts for both. Very impressive for Strictly. Last years consolidated rating for the Saturday week 1 show was 9.31m so its up a decent amount as expected after a larger overnight number of 8.6m

From ITV Media:

Friday Top 10 (inc. +1)

2 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 5.399m 31%

HD and +1 added only 0.72m to Emmerdale
Hmmm. Emmerdale might have been more as it needed tape-checking. Therefore your SD rating Ray for Emmerdale would have been tape-checked whereas that is the full-slot rating. So might be a little bit more.

Shock horror as DS posts a ratings report!

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/strictl...aintwitterpost

Which is taken directly from Overnights.tv on Twitter... The days of ratings reports are long gone
Indeed. That is an awfully written article. I wish they'd bring them back.
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Old 03-10-2016, 20:33
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I dug it up if anyone wants reminding.

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Well that was an entertaining read. Certainly better than a certain somebody's usual rubbish.
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Old 03-10-2016, 20:34
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Yes. I bet she doesn't perform during the clash with SCD. She has the ability to become a Chico who gets some watercooler action.

When I looked at that list of finalists I least impressed by Nicole's picks. They'll soon go once the teen vote gets swamped.

Brookes I hear are managed by Sinitta. They won't last either. I've no idea what Simon relationship story is.
Well I can only go on what I heard at work from XF fans and they were seriously unhappy. I'm not convinced this time it will work but only time will tell.
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Old 03-10-2016, 20:43
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Technically they're both ITV dramas.

Both would be higher away from each other. One was always going to lose out in the battle but I would say Poldark's ratings are still respectable. I think it's already been recommissioned anyway.

Certainly. Yes Poldark is doing fine. Its because expectations were higher forseries 2 given how series 1 did. Yes it has be recommissioned. Started filming series 3 a week of so ago.

I suspect both dramas will face each other in Autumn 2017.
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Old 03-10-2016, 20:54
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When was the last time there was a 50 min clash on a Saturday?

The Beeb obviously saw the earlier TXF ratings when it was up on last year and wanted to put the boot in with the first live show. They know the bad press will stick and be widely publicised and will probably set the scene for the rest of the series. Casual viewers won't be bothered missing a show which they've read nobody watches anymore.

Either that or they did the schedule on the day when everyone thought ITV had nicked the Bake Off.
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Old 03-10-2016, 21:01
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Well I can only go on what I heard at work from XF fans and they were seriously unhappy. I'm not convinced this time it will work but only time will tell.
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not happy about it. Chris and Gifty and Ivy were the only three that I thought must make the lives. It is a cock-up but I know why they've done it. I actually thought the doll was better box office and she could sing.

It got 43% share for 16-34 year olds. That's demo that I doubt no other show on TV gets (maybe BGT, GBBO and IACGMOOH, maybe).

I'm not going to take the XF overnights too seriously until it stops the big overlaps with SCD. One other thing, she is likeable. I suspect she will be popular and go quite far if they feature her right.
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Old 03-10-2016, 21:26
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When was the last time there was a 50 min clash on a Saturday?

The Beeb obviously saw the earlier TXF ratings when it was up on last year and wanted to put the boot in with the first live show. They know the bad press will stick and be widely publicised and will probably set the scene for the rest of the series. Casual viewers won't be bothered missing a show which they've read nobody watches anymore.

Either that or they did the schedule on the day when everyone thought ITV had nicked the Bake Off.
I actually can't remember. I bet you have to go back a good few years. I does seem like Strictly are targeting XF with that overlap which could have been reduced significantly. Surely they could have just started it at 6.20pm like the Saturday just gone. Come to think of it, when was the last time a Strictly performance show finished so late? 20.50 on a Saturday night is quite late for it (I know it did on the recent Friday show and of course Finals, but when else?!).

That last part did make me laugh though. Let's assume that's the reason...
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Old 03-10-2016, 21:28
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BREAKING NEWS: Westworld becomes most watched HBO premiere for three years.

http://deadline.com/2016/10/westworl...rm-1201830145/

UK premiere tomorrow, 9pm, Sky Atlantic.
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Old 03-10-2016, 21:34
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When was the last time there was a 50 min clash on a Saturday?

The Beeb obviously saw the earlier TXF ratings when it was up on last year and wanted to put the boot in with the first live show. They know the bad press will stick and be widely publicised and will probably set the scene for the rest of the series. Casual viewers won't be bothered missing a show which they've read nobody watches anymore.

Either that or they did the schedule on the day when everyone thought ITV had nicked the Bake Off.
Or maybe they thought that, to avoid a vlash, they would have to start it at 5:55pm and that is far too early.
Also, why should they be looking to avoid clashing with a show that SCD is now so far ahead of, anyway? They absolutely should be looking to take the most prime of primetime slots now.
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Old 03-10-2016, 21:38
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When was the last time there was a 50 min clash on a Saturday?

The Beeb obviously saw the earlier TXF ratings when it was up on last year and wanted to put the boot in with the first live show. They know the bad press will stick and be widely publicised and will probably set the scene for the rest of the series. Casual viewers won't be bothered missing a show which they've read nobody watches anymore.

Either that or they did the schedule on the day when everyone thought ITV had nicked the Bake Off.
i doubt it's any of that at all. Think you are reading far too much into it.
England are live on ITV so it's more that they are avoiding that.
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Old 03-10-2016, 21:39
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Or maybe they thought that, to avoid a vlash, they would have to start it at 5:55pm and that is far too early.
Also, why should they be looking to avoid clashing with a show that SCD is now so far ahead of, anyway? They absolutely should be looking to take the most prime of primetime slots now.
Nobody's saying "don't clash" (though that would be the ideal scenario), they're saying "don't clash for an amount of time which is clearly aggressive scheduling".

Why should the BBC move their show wherever they please? Do you want them to have a monopoly over British TV (yes, actually, you probably do lol)? It's been like this for years, SCD starts 6-6.45 and XF starts at 8. Why change?
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Old 03-10-2016, 21:47
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Nobody's saying "don't clash" (though that would be the ideal scenario), they're saying "don't clash for an amount of time which is clearly aggressive scheduling".

Why should the BBC move their show wherever they please? Do you want them to have a monopoly over British TV (yes, actually, you probably do lol)? It's been like this for years, SCD starts 6-6.45 and XF starts at 8. Why change?
SCD *is* starting at 6:45, so what's the issue?

Anyway, I think it's pretty obvious that the timing is to coincide with the end of the football.

No, I don't think that the BBC should have a monopoly. What a naive thing to say. However, I don't think the BBC should be planning its schedules around giving a leg up to other shows on other networks, particularly when that shows decline is entirely of its own making, and not the BBC's.
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Old 03-10-2016, 22:18
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Last night's @TheXFactor on @ITV was the most watched programme of the day for 16-34s with an incredible 43% share #JudgesHouses #XFactor
Would be interesting to see what percentage of 16-34s watched this weeks bake off, heard it does very well
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Old 03-10-2016, 22:54
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When was the last time there was a 50 min clash on a Saturday?

The Beeb obviously saw the earlier TXF ratings when it was up on last year and wanted to put the boot in with the first live show. They know the bad press will stick and be widely publicised and will probably set the scene for the rest of the series. Casual viewers won't be bothered missing a show which they've read nobody watches anymore.

Either that or they did the schedule on the day when everyone thought ITV had nicked the Bake Off.
Nobody's saying "don't clash" (though that would be the ideal scenario), they're saying "don't clash for an amount of time which is clearly aggressive scheduling".

Why should the BBC move their show wherever they please? Do you want them to have a monopoly over British TV (yes, actually, you probably do lol)? It's been like this for years, SCD starts 6-6.45 and XF starts at 8. Why change?
As others have said, Strictly starts at 6.45pm just as the England match finishes, they scheduled Strictly in similar ways during the Rugby World Cup last year to avoid home nation matches.
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Old 03-10-2016, 23:13
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Very good for Strictly yesterday. The X Factor is 0.4m down on last week despite a Strictly clash - I don't think anyone can be writing it's obituaries based on that. Next week will be intriguing; the first live show dipped to such a horrific level on Halloween last year they should be looking to beat it despite a 50 minute clash. Still think ITV should push using the +1 option far more in these scenarios - push The X Factor forward to 19.50 and time an ad break as Strictly finishes to promote the +1 option for those who missed the first hour.

Louis Theroux seemed to take viewers away from the other channels though they should timeshift back to the usual level.
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Old 03-10-2016, 23:38
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As others have said, Strictly starts at 6.45pm just as the England match finishes, they scheduled Strictly in similar ways during the Rugby World Cup last year to avoid home nation matches.
That can't be the case as the football won't finish until 6:50 at the earliest and probably nearer 6:55. In any case it's only a qualifier against Malta, not exactly a home nation in the Rugby World Cup that needs to be avoided.
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Old 03-10-2016, 23:52
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Kids are in bed and I have the choice of Pick, Challenge or the news. So I'm watching Bullseye from 1990. Three things strike me:

Jim didn't ask questions to the contestants at the start of the show; he would tell them instead. For instance he would say... So you are a teacher? Never noticed it before.

The lighting is so different to the post Millionaire era. The audience's faces are all clearly visible. Everything is bright rather than the low lighting we have now. No questions written on the screen and no eerie mood music.

Finally, yeah this show would still work today. Sunday evening, decent prizes and the right host and it'd clear 4m for 45 minutes.

Millionaire was great but it killed the joy of gameshows with the fun and silliness stripped out. I would never want to watch a repeat of it because it was very much a 'live' programme; as if it was a sporting event.

If they were to bring back Millionaire it'd need to be stripped daily like it originally was and I'd say you'd want it filmed on the day of broadcast as you watched to see if someone could win the jackpot.
Maybe the papers would not spoil it these days as they clearly don't spoil Strictly.
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:07
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When was the last time there was a 50 min clash on a Saturday?

The Beeb obviously saw the earlier TXF ratings when it was up on last year and wanted to put the boot in with the first live show. They know the bad press will stick and be widely publicised and will probably set the scene for the rest of the series. Casual viewers won't be bothered missing a show which they've read nobody watches anymore.

Either that or they did the schedule on the day when everyone thought ITV had nicked the Bake Off.
Bit like when ITV pop a one hour long Emmerdale in the schedule to derail EE whenever it has any momentum going then.
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:09
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Last night's @TheXFactor on @ITV was the most watched programme of the day for 16-34s with an incredible 43% share #JudgesHouses #XFactor
Spin.

A lot of posts have been quoted about how the XF is in crisis and hasn't recovered and the changes are failing and how SCD thrashes it and how the negative hot takes means it is in doooomed...

3rd most watched show on then. Third. In autumn. Exclude the adverts and it's about 1m below SCD.
The official figures already strip the adverts out.
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:25
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Delighted that Strictly is doing the business again this year. It is the best show on the box. So British, so BBC. Furthermore, the judges are qualified to judge making the show credible.

The X Factor's 'performance' is predictable. The big problem with it has always been it's lack of credibility.
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:43
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I think ADP just hates adverts
Sorry, name me someone who loves the jarring/time wasting adverts?
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:48
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Nobody's saying "don't clash" (though that would be the ideal scenario), they're saying "don't clash for an amount of time which is clearly aggressive scheduling".

Why should the BBC move their show wherever they please? Do you want them to have a monopoly over British TV (yes, actually, you probably do lol)? It's been like this for years, SCD starts 6-6.45 and XF starts at 8. Why change?
Sorry, why shouldn't the BBC schedule it's shows where it likes? It's purpose is to provide a service for the GBP not to serve the needs, desires and wishes of ITV!

ITV 'aggressively' schedules Emmerdale against EastEnders from time to time? Is that acceptable?
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Old 04-10-2016, 02:29
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That can't be the case as the football won't finish until 6:50 at the earliest and probably nearer 6:55. In any case it's only a qualifier against Malta, not exactly a home nation in the Rugby World Cup that needs to be avoided.
It's a 5.00pm kick off so barring injury time it shouldn't finish too much after 6.45pm. Qualifiers are more important than friendlies and it's England so people watch. The match is also in primetime so there will be more viewers around. Strictly would have been better off starting at 7.00pm to avoid the match completely. The qualifier against Slovakia peaked with nearly 8m at 6.50pm.
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Old 04-10-2016, 07:01
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It's a 5.00pm kick off so barring injury time it shouldn't finish too much after 6.45pm. Qualifiers are more important than friendlies and it's England so people watch. The match is also in primetime so there will be more viewers around. Strictly would have been better off starting at 7.00pm to avoid the match completely. The qualifier against Slovakia peaked with nearly 8m at 6.50pm.
Yep, it's pretty obvious why SCD is on later.
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Old 04-10-2016, 07:42
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Nobody's saying "don't clash" (though that would be the ideal scenario), they're saying "don't clash for an amount of time which is clearly aggressive scheduling".

Why should the BBC move their show wherever they please? Do you want them to have a monopoly over British TV (yes, actually, you probably do lol)? It's been like this for years, SCD starts 6-6.45 and XF starts at 8. Why change?
Remind me again what time TXF started on Sunday evening because I don't think that it was 8pm

That looks like aggressive scheduling to me
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