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The Ratings Thread (Part 68)
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iaindb
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by marke09:
“Our Girl confirms third series”

Originally Posted by marke09:
“Michelle Keegan is staying

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...name=corporate”

Don't spoil it. I haven't seen the final episode yet. Now I know she doesn't die at the end. ()

I'm watching this to the end just to see what happens to "Our Girl", so in that sense writer Tony Grounds has done his job, but it's not really very good. It's getting the (average) ratings it deserves and a third series it DOESN'T deserve.

The Daily Mail described Our Girl as "Girl's Own Adventure" and that pretty accurately sums it up. It's melodramatic, far-fetched and full of conversations that only exist in TV dramas and not real life. Basically, it's not as good as it thinks it is. I probably won't be back for series 3.
H of De Vil
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“Good for it and congratulations to all who work on it.

I hope this throws a bucket of perspective over other ratings. Our Girl gets 5.5m consolidated and it's on the more popular channel. Cold Feet is doing okay then.

Any ITV drama that can touch 4m overnight and clear 5m after 7 days is a good shout for a second season. After all, surely TV should let shows grow and build. Over 5m like Our Girl so why not give them more of it?

Paranoid, Level and HIM have a lower bar to clear maybe.”

ITV are different from BBC1. If a drama is recommissioned it has to be rating well enough to sell advertising space, plus sell well abroad.

Paranoid has dropped below 3m. It is certain for the axe. If The Level can increase, perhaps, but I suspect that'll only be one series too.
Jokanovic
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Sorry guys. Easy to get carried away.

I'm suprised Our Girl has got a third series. Our Zoo was axed with higher ratings.”

Think Michelle Keegan was the key. She's going to be flavour of the month for a good while what with her other show coming up on ITV so once she confirmed I think that was another series.
sunbeam007
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“ITV are different from BBC1. If a drama is recommissioned it has to be rating well enough to sell advertising space, plus sell well abroad.

Paranoid has dropped below 3m. It is certain for the axe. If The Level can increase, perhaps, but I suspect that'll only be one series too.”

If something is good, it warrants a second series. Sometimes you have to think long-term and hope it'll pay off, like Cheers.

ITV probably will just axe anything that doesn't do well because they strike me as being pretty useless when it comes to nurturing programming.
cylon6
06-10-2016
So Motherland and Porridge go to series. Thought Young Hyacinth and Goodnight Sweetheart would have been commissioned too.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...name=corporate
Score
06-10-2016
Broadcast are today reporting that BBC1 are bringing back Let's Dance For Comic Relief and this time it will include singing as well (of course it will!) so will be called "Let's Sing and Dance For Comic Relief."

Also Channel 4 have upped its commitment to The Last Leg to 40 hours per year. Never like to overexpose their shows, C4, do they.
LHolmes
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Sorry guys. Easy to get carried away.

I'm suprised Our Girl has got a third series. Our Zoo was axed with higher ratings.”

Maybe OG reaches a demo(s) that BBC One struggles to get that often? Maybe it's a budget thing? There will be different expectations for different dramas and budget will be a factor.

I think overnighting at 4m is OK for OG. The army side of things won't be for everyone.
cylon6
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“I'm suprised Our Girl has got a third series. Our Zoo was axed with higher ratings.”

Originally Posted by Jokanovic:
“Think Michelle Keegan was the key. She's going to be flavour of the month for a good while what with her other show coming up on ITV so once she confirmed I think that was another series.”

Originally Posted by LHolmes:
“Maybe OG reaches a demo(s) that BBC One struggles to get that often? Maybe it's a budget thing? There will be different expectations for different dramas and budget will be a factor.

I think overnighting at 4m is OK for OG. The army side of things won't be for everyone.”

With Our Girl getting a recommission maybe this was part of the decision. This is the 16-34 ratings for episodes of some BBC dramas. I asked for this and I got it.

- Doctor Foster (07/10/15) => 14.3% skew [1.44m (31.0%)]
- Our Girl (21/09/16) => 20.5% skew [1.14m (26.0%)]
- Our Zoo (08/10/14) => 13.7% skew [778k (16.1%)]
- The Missing (16/12/14) => 11.8% skew [990k (19.5%)]
cylon6
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by Score:
“Broadcast are today reporting that BBC1 are bringing back Let's Dance For Comic Relief and this time it will include singing as well (of course it will!) so will be called "Let's Sing and Dance For Comic Relief."

Also Channel 4 have upped its commitment to The Last Leg to 40 hours per year. Never like to overexpose their shows, C4, do they.”

God I hate Let's Dance. Hosted by Steve and Alex Jones, two people that dated and yet had no chemistry onscreen!

40 hours of The Last Leg? Overkill anyone?
Neil_N
06-10-2016
The problem with CH4 is Jay Hunt. Get rid of her (preferably the Russian style method), their shows won't be over exposed. It seems as if they only have six programmes a year. I know we are in austerity times, but spend the money!!

I'm shocked 'Goodnight Sweetheart' and 'Young Hycanith' never got recommissioned. Typical BBC going for the two chanceless ones for BBC2 that will get 20 viewers though Porridge is a decent choice.
Ray Tings
06-10-2016
GBBO: 10.88m (46.7%)
lewiep93
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“GBBO: 10.88m (46.7%)”

Another series high!
Ray Tings
06-10-2016
Our Girl: 4.39m (21.5%)
Markynotts
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by Neil_N:
“The problem with CH4 is Jay Hunt. Get rid of her (preferably the Russian style method), their shows won't be over exposed. It seems as if they only have six programmes a year. I know we are in austerity times, but spend the money!!

I'm shocked 'Goodnight Sweetheart' and 'Young Hycanith' never got recommissioned. Typical BBC going for the two chanceless ones for BBC2 that will get 20 viewers though Porridge is a decent choice.”

Well they clearly had £75 million that they could invest in programming for the Hollywood Tent, or at least £25 million for each year.

I am surprised at the other comedies not getting another shot. I preferred AYBS but that was always going to be a difficult one to continue.
Score
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“With Our Girl getting a recommission maybe this was part of the decision. This is the 16-34 ratings for episodes of some BBC dramas. I asked for this and I got it.

- Doctor Foster (07/10/15) => 14.3% skew [1.44m (31.0%)]
- Our Girl (21/09/16) => 20.5% skew [1.14m (26.0%)]
- Our Zoo (08/10/14) => 13.7% skew [778k (16.1%)]
- The Missing (16/12/14) => 11.8% skew [990k (19.5%)]”

Cheers for those. Demos will definitely have helped Our Girl get renewed looking at that. Looking at Our Zoo and Doctor Foster I think airing out of Bake Off probably adds a couple of % points to a show's 16-34 skew but even so, Our Girl must be one of the youngest skewing dramas across BBC1/ITV.
cylon6
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“GBBO: 10.88m (46.7%)”

It's a shame it won't reach these numbers on Channel 4.
Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“Our Girl: 4.39m (21.5%)”

Am okay rating but I expect The Missing to be much higher after Bake Off.
Ray Tings
06-10-2016
BBC1
The Great British Bake Off: 10.88m (46.7%)
Our Girl: 4.39m (21.5%)
BBC News (10pm): 4.18m (27.4%)

BBC2
Great British Menu: 1.71m (8.7%)
Coast: the Great Guide: 1.29m (5.5%)
A World Without Down's Syndrome?: 1.20m (5.9%)

BBC4
Britain's Lost Masterpieces: 0.57m (2.8%)
King Alfred and the Anglo-Saxons (R): 0.35m (1.5%)
Rome: a History of the Eternal City (R): 0.31m (2.3%)

Channel 4 (exc. +1)
Grand Designs: 1.83m (9.0%)
Penelope Keith's Hidden Villages: 0.94m (4.0%)
Channel 4 News: 0.50m (2.7%)

Channel 5 (exc. +1)
Can't Pay? We'll Take It Away!: 1.67m (8.2%)
GPs: Behind Closed Doors: 1.06m (4.6%)
Undercover: Nailing the Fraudsters: 0.84m (6.1%)
Servalan
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by sn_22:
“Sad to see such a worthy ITV effort fall quite so low last night - though its perhaps not a great surprise. There is definitely a 'chicken and egg' situation on Tuesday nights, and its difficult to see how they can break the spiral. I'm certain the sixth Corrie episode will land on Sundays, but I guess that would be the only sure-fire way of reviving the night, even if it did have to contend directly with Holby City.”

It's no surprise because ITV abandoned making any effort on Tuesdays long ago. It routinely launched new dramas then played them as returning series on Tuesdays (Soldier, Soldier and Peak Practice immediately spring to mind) but hasn't done that for ages.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: HC is a soft target and could easily be made to suffer with an episode of Coronation Street or Emmerdale against it. Yet ITV have pointlessly obsessed over targeting EE instead.

Ordinary Lies isn't a big hitter for BBC One - it was lucky to get a recommission. Playing HIM that night would not have been a problem. Throwing it against The Missing - after that has got a head start - rather indicates that ITV think they have a dud on their hands. Is this Kevin Lygo, systematically burning off Steve November's commissions ASAP, so Polly Hill's mark can be made ASAP?
Servalan
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“I'm suprised Our Girl has got a third series. Our Zoo was axed with higher ratings.”

Am I being cynical in pointing out that Our Girl was made in-house, while Our Zoo was an independent production?

I still don't understand why Our Zoo wasn't played on a Sunday evening. One of the most bizarre scheduling decisions in recent years …
Salv*
06-10-2016
Bake Off... incredible again!! Beastly. Such a shame that at least 7m will turn off when the switch is made...

Wow at Can't Pay though, that's a beast for C5.
Ray Tings
06-10-2016
Excluding +1:

Hollyoaks (E4): 0.60m (3.3%)
Hell's Kitchen: 0.29m (1.4%)
Containment: 0.27m (1.4%)
The Force: Essex: 0.19m (1.4%)
Unspun with Matt Forde: 0.18m (1.3%)
Shades of Blue: 0.06m (0.3%)
cylon6
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“BBC1
The Great British Bake Off: 10.88m (46.7%)
Our Girl: 4.39m (21.5%)
BBC News (10pm): 4.18m (27.4%)

BBC2
Great British Menu: 1.71m (8.7%)
Coast: the Great Guide: 1.29m (5.5%)
A World Without Down's Syndrome?: 1.20m (5.9%)

BBC4
Britain's Lost Masterpieces: 0.57m (2.8%)
King Alfred and the Anglo-Saxons (R): 0.35m (1.5%)
Rome: a History of the Eternal City (R): 0.31m (2.3%)

Channel 4 (exc. +1)
Grand Designs: 1.83m (9.0%)
Penelope Keith's Hidden Villages: 0.94m (4.0%)
Channel 4 News: 0.50m (2.7%)

Channel 5 (exc. +1)
Can't Pay? We'll Take It Away!: 1.67m (8.2%)
GPs: Behind Closed Doors: 1.06m (4.6%)
Undercover: Nailing the Fraudsters: 0.84m (6.1%)”

Thanks Ray.

Can't Pay? We'll Take It Away does well in a competitive timeslot. And Channel 5 getting a million opposite Bake Off. BBC2 doing okay and The Great British Menu continues to be a star performer.
Leeah
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“GBBO: 10.88m (46.7%)”

Fantastic! going to miss this
Straker
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by Score:
“Also Channel 4 have upped its commitment to The Last Leg to 40 hours per year. Never like to overexpose their shows, C4, do they.”

A preview of what they'll do to Bake Off I reckon.
Straker
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“Unspun with Matt Forde: 0.18m (1.3%)”

Deserves better. Improved a lot since the first one - Even managed to get a decent interview out of Chuka Amuna last night!!
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