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The Ratings Thread (Part 68)
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Jaycee Dove
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Before one or two get too carried away ripping into Suspects over only slightly inadequate ratings, it should probably be noted that BBC Two comedy Boy Meets Girl posted just 328k (2.0%) in the first half hour of Suspects' slot, and C4 wasn't too far ahead with 775k across the hour for sitcom Man Down followed by documentary A Granny's Guide to the Modern World.”

Boy Meets Girl has declined in quality at about the same rate its ratings have for series 2.

Getting around a third to a quarter of what it got last year.

I recall the BBC delaying a recommission by asking the writer where it would go next as they needed to be convinced.

Sadly it was a one trick pony and got old very fast. It just did not have the staying power (nor was it funny enough) to get past the basic premise that could not sustain it indefinitely.

Speaking of which if Cash Trapped is recommissioned they need to change the format.

No quiz show will ever retain viewers if on the fourth day of only 10 episodes nobody has won anything, nobody has lost anything and all the original contestants are still there playing the same game like it is Groundhog Day not Cash Trapped.

Bradley Walsh's parties must have guests coming up with the best ever run of excuses to leave if their fun days of this go on indefinitely in the same way.

More importantly, viewers are just not going to warm to a show with such an interminable concept where the same people can play on and on and on and still nobody wins or loses.

You need a variety of contestants and you need winners and losers. You cannot sustain a quiz show that basically allows 0-0 draws every day.
Chief_Wiggum
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by ian hyland:
“I never panned Kelly. She was the best thing on it.”

My mistake. I apologize for that- I remember you generally assassinating it as a show, but obviously for you Kelly Cates was the diamond in the rough.

Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“ Indeed. And here's the press release to confirm that she's joined Sky...
http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...eague-coverage

So, are we going to get the retraction soon?”

All that press release shows is what we already know- that Kelly Cates has joined Sky.

Whether she did so after leaving Channel 5 of her own accord or being sacked/having her contract not renewed is still an unknown.

The abject failure of Football League Tonight to draw in respectable viewing figures will have inevitably caused heads to roll at Channel 5- Kelly Cates may well have been one of them.

If Kelly wasn't the daughter of a very successful footballer, I think it could be considered doubtful that she would have got the Channel 5 gig in the first place.
dave01
04-08-2016
Eastenders has recorded a monthly overnight average of 5.35m (28.8%) during July 2016, which is down 580k year-on-year. July's highest rating came on Monday 11th with 6.19m (30.6%) and the lowest came on Tuesday 26th with 4.51m (23.2%), which was during an Emmerdale clash. This July has featured four Emmerdale clashes, compared to none during July 2015.

2016
Jan - 6.79m (30.7%)
Feb - 6.45m (30.5%)
Mar - 6.13m (29.6%)
Apr - 6.07m (30.7%)
May - 5.81m (30.4%)
Jun - 4.97m (26.1%)
Jul - 5.35m (28.8%)
* W/O Emm - 5.62m (30.3%)

2015
Jan - 7.26m (32.1%)
Feb - 8.11m (35.9%) [anniversary month]
Mar - 6.51m (30.8%)
Apr - 6.13m (31.4%)
May - 5.85m (29.4%)
Jun - 5.85m (31.5%)
Jul - 5.93m (31.2%)
Aug - 5.65m (28.7%)
Sep - 5.46m (26.8%)
Oct - 5.80m (28.5%)
Nov - 5.89m (27.8%)
Dec - 5.96m (28.2%)


Previous July average overnights
2016 - 5.35m (28.8%)
2015 - 5.93m (31.2%)
2014 - 5.19m (27.8%)
2013 - 5.94m (31.2%)
2012 - 6.69m (31.5%)
2011 - 7.55m (36.1%)
2010 - 8.07m (38.0%)
2009 - 7.32m (36.5%)


Last EE update
dave01
04-08-2016
The latest Iplayer pack available is for April/May/June, so an update for Eastenders Iplayer monthly average ratings, based on the entries that appear in the Iplayer top 20 each month.

2016
Jan - 1.07m
Feb - 955k (BBC3 Eastenders repeats ended 16th Feb)
Mar - 1.07m
Apr - 977k
May - 1.12m
Jun - 1.10m

2015
Jan - 1.35m
Feb - 1.50m
Mar - 999k
Apr - 948k
May - 1.04m
Jun - 997k
Jul - 933k
Aug - 988k
Sep - 1.15m (Requests data was inflated by 18-25% in September)
Oct - 1.04m
Nov - 1.00m
Dec - 1.04m


Previous June Iplayer ratings
2016 - 1.10m
2015 - 997k
2014 - 1.04m
2013 - 849k
2012 - 682k
2011 - 530k
2010 - 552k


Last EE Iplayer update
YouView
04-08-2016
I would like to have seen Suspects do closer to a million as frankly it deserves so, but a respectable figure and I'm sure it will consolidate well.

Wondering how their panel show It's Not Me It's You will perform in a CBB sandwich tomorrow as I think previous episodes have struggled.
Andy23
04-08-2016
I haven't seen Cash Trapped yet as I've been on holiday, so can't offer an opinion.

I do wonder if the fact that BBC1 are showing Pointless Celebrities might be a partial explanation. These episodes are so more obviously repeats than repeats of normal editions, plus they might be slightly annoying to viewers who want their regular slightly more serious weekday edition.
Chris1964
04-08-2016
Some more info on the forthcoming comedy season, must admit Im looking forward to this more and more.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36979491
Jaycee Dove
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Some more info on the forthcoming comedy season, must admit Im looking forward to this more and more.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36979491”

It should be interesting, that's for sure. Though how many of them will appear as pale shadows is hard to judge up front. None will surely recreate the magic,

The idea upcoming (somewhere - I do not think for this series) to write and create 'new' Morecambe and Wise shows using new material with the impersonators who play them is a bit more worrying though.

But TV moves on and I bet we end up one day with classic TV shows recreated using holograms of the original actors in new episodes.

Unless these sitcoms in the series all crash and burn and persuade people to look for new sparks of genius and not fake the real thing.
Jaycee Dove
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I haven't seen Cash Trapped yet as I've been on holiday, so can't offer an opinion.

I do wonder if the fact that BBC1 are showing Pointless Celebrities might be a partial explanation. These episodes are so more obviously repeats than repeats of normal editions, plus they might be slightly annoying to viewers who want their regular slightly more serious weekday edition.”

The Olympics puts Pointless onto BBC 2 next week (ordinary editions too). Pretty much only East Enders survives on BBC 1. Even Holby is on tonight for the second time this week due to the olympics next week.

Meanwhile Cash Trapped ended up with its fourth successive stalemate. Though the banter works well and there is a modicum of excitement I remain convinced the fact that we have had the same contestants basically rerunning the same quiz every night this week with nobody yet having won or lost anything is a serious flaw.

If that happens in the first 4 episodes a full series of this is surely going to have a real problem with staleness.
Andy23
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“Even Holby is on tonight for the second time this week due to the olympics next week.”

Should we not have had lots of faux outrage about how dare they show 2 hours of Holby in one week, and why did they commission these episodes in the first place, by now?

Still can't believe it's 4 years since London 2012!
Jaycee Dove
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Should we not have had lots of faux outrage about how dare they show 2 hours of Holby in one week, and why did they commission these episodes in the first place, by now?

Still can't believe it's 4 years since London 2012!”

Neither can I, but the older you get the quicker everything keeps coming round - apart from yourself in the morning after a night out.
Straker
04-08-2016
Does anyone have any idea why FiveUSA+1 is listed in the Radio Times as being on Freeview channel 78 when it isn't and according to Five's website doesn't even exist??
omnidirectional
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by Straker:
“Does anyone have any idea why FiveUSA+1 is listed in the Radio Times as being on Freeview channel 78 when it isn't and according to Five's website doesn't even exist??”

It does exist (https://www.freeview.co.uk/why-freeview/channels/5usa1) but it's on the 'COM7' multiplex which has limited coverage. If you can receive channels like BBC News HD, BBC Four HD or CBS Drama, you should get 5USA+1.
Straker
04-08-2016
Right, thanks. Not for me then......
Dancc
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by YouView:
“Wondering how their panel show It's Not Me It's You will perform in a CBB sandwich tomorrow as I think previous episodes have struggled.”

Last week's got half a million minus +1 - not a number to be doing cartwheels about but immediately a series high.

The power of the CBB lead-in. Could do even better in a sandwich, we'll see. If new viewers tuning in for the first time end up liking it, it has a chance, which is more than can be said for a couple of the new shows this week.
AndyB2007
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by Chief_Wiggum:
“My mistake. I apologize for that- I remember you generally assassinating it as a show, but obviously for you Kelly Cates was the diamond in the rough.



All that press release shows is what we already know- that Kelly Cates has joined Sky.

Whether she did so after leaving Channel 5 of her own accord or being sacked/having her contract not renewed is still an unknown.

The abject failure of Football League Tonight to draw in respectable viewing figures will have inevitably caused heads to roll at Channel 5- Kelly Cates may well have been one of them.

If Kelly wasn't the daughter of a very successful footballer, I think it could be considered doubtful that she would have got the Channel 5 gig in the first place.”

You could argue the whole Boy Meets Girl thing too ref Kelly Cates. If it wasn't for her son's success with The 1975, Denise Welch would have the same treatment Patricia Brake and Jesse Birdsall got for Eldorado. They had careers prior to Eldorado, yet got no special consideration.

Since I've never seen bile like Eldorado had in the press for her sitcom this series given it's ratings - i.e Bore Meets Girl - BBC2 sitcom is less popular than Summer Bay, Healy Away, Bornise Welch, or any derisory headlines.

Nor have the BBC shoved her show into naff timeslots despite the ratings which they did to Eldo or even Breakers and Out of the Blue at points.
pdwill
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Before one or two get too carried away ripping into Suspects over only slightly inadequate ratings, it should probably be noted that BBC Two comedy Boy Meets Girl posted just 328k (2.0%) in the first half hour of Suspects' slot, and C4 wasn't too far ahead with 775k across the hour for sitcom Man Down followed by documentary A Granny's Guide to the Modern World.”

If Channel 5 want a police procedural, wouldn't they be better served from a ratings perspective by simply bringing back "The Bill"?
Ray Tings
05-08-2016
BBC1
EastEnders: 5.53m (31.0%)
BBC News (10pm): 4.18m (26.4%)
Holby City: 3.38m (18.2%)

BBC2
Full Steam Ahead: 1.95m (10.5%)
The 80s with Dominic Sandbrook: 1.53m (8.0%)
Great American Railroad Journeys (Repeat): 1.30m (7.6%)

BBC4
Scotland's First Oil Rush: 0.34m (1.8%)
Rome's Lost Empire (Repeat): 0.29m (2.3%)
Masters of the Pacific Coast: the Tribes of the American Northwest (Repeat): 0.27m (1.5%)

Channel 4 (exc. +1)
999: What's Your Emergency?: 1.52m (8.0%)
Inside Out Homes: 1.02m (5.5%)
Ramsay's Hotel Hell: 0.86m (5.9%)

Channel 5 (exc. +1)
Celebrity Big Brother: 1.61m (8.4%)
On Benefits: Life on the Dole: 1.05m (5.7%)
Body Freaks: Old Face, New Face: 0.89m (6.2%)
lewiep93
05-08-2016
From rzt

Pointless: 2.4m (22.2%)
Mo Farah: Race for Life: 2.48m (12.9%)

Cash Trapped: 1.82m (17.3%) inc +1
The Investigator: British Crime Story: 2.65m (13.8%) exc +1
H of De Vil
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“BBC1
EastEnders: 5.53m (31.0%)
BBC News (10pm): 4.18m (26.4%)
Holby City: 3.38m (18.2%)

BBC2
Full Steam Ahead: 1.95m (10.5%)
The 80s with Dominic Sandbrook: 1.53m (8.0%)
Great American Railroad Journeys (Repeat): 1.30m (7.6%)

BBC4
Scotland's First Oil Rush: 0.34m (1.8%)
Rome's Lost Empire (Repeat): 0.29m (2.3%)
Masters of the Pacific Coast: the Tribes of the American Northwest (Repeat): 0.27m (1.5%)

Channel 4 (exc. +1)
999: What's Your Emergency?: 1.52m (8.0%)
Inside Out Homes: 1.02m (5.5%)
Ramsay's Hotel Hell: 0.86m (5.9%)

Channel 5 (exc. +1)
Celebrity Big Brother: 1.61m (8.4%)
On Benefits: Life on the Dole: 1.05m (5.7%)
Body Freaks: Old Face, New Face: 0.89m (6.2%)”


Way too high for my liking. Its likely that there will be another series given these ratings. I cannot beleve some are still watching benefits shows.

Bit of a jump for CBB yesterday from the previous night.

Ramsay Hotel Hell is doing well.

Cash Trapped is slowly dropping to poor figures. The one noticable thing is that Pointless is not rising as ITVs ratings drop.
Salv*
05-08-2016
Large increase for CBB and I expect the +1 will bring it to 1.8m. Shame those benefits shows do so well, they won't get rid of them if they are getting those types of ratings. Yet another drop for Cash Tipped, I wonder when it will stabilize.
Straker
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Way too high for my liking. Its likely that there will be another series given these ratings. I cannot beleve some are still watching benefits shows.”

There's another one next week at the same time so you only have to wait a few days!
Score
05-08-2016
#TheInvestigator increased viewing this week and won the 9pm slot 2.8m / 14.6% @ITVShiver @mwilliamsthomas overnights.tv

This has done okay-ish for Summer factual. It most likely built on its lead-in and has won the slot most weeks. It's nothing to shout about, but compared to some of the factual flops they've had its maybe worth a cautious renewal?
omnidirectional
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by Straker:
“There's another one next week at the same time so you only have to wait a few days!”

The awful Thursday night benefit shows are all part of the same series. Next week is episode 22 of 24 so there are only three more.
gottago
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by omnidirectional:
“The awful Thursday night benefit shows are all part of the same series. Next week is episode 22 of 24 so there are only three more.”

I think this long series was commissioned before they announced they were canning benefits stuff so this should be the end of it.
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