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Personally I would have pulled TXF forward. If the BBC was a big clash, call their bluff. The football finished at 7pm I think. Cut the commentary 5 minutes or so. Start TXF at 7.10pm, allowing only a 20 minute head start for SCD. From the breakdown SCD started its mammoth growth at the point YBF came on air (with a 50% peak share). I am pretty certain TXF would be no lower with a full head on clash, even bigger than 50minutes. People wouldn't have turned over the SCD? You think they watched it for 2 hours because it was the only entertainment on at 7:10, and if TXF had started at that time, it would have changed their whole evening? |
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There is no way in a million years ITV moving The X Factor to start at 7:30 and instigating a 80 min clash would have been accepted as the logical decision here. They would have been branded as idiots who got what they deserved due to terrible scheduling.
So many contradictions here from one week to the next. If ITV do A it's obvious they should do B. If ITV do B they should do A. If they do A and B it's obviously due to the lead in from C or the content or the producer or something else obvious. Putting YBF (a rpt as well) at 7.30pm is being idiotic. It gave SCD an extra leap of viewers at 7.30pm which created a larger rating at 8pm for TXF to take on. |
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If the high rating had continued all the way through the analysis, all the way through the news, and then dropped sharply at 7:30 you'd have a point, but I can't see that in the breakdown above.
They had 2.6m at 7:05pm when the analysis was going on. They had 2.2m during the ITV News They had about 2.2m during YBF. The drop in momentum was due to the football having finished. The only way they would have fixed that would have been if they'd have started The X Factor at 6:55 the minute after the final whistle. |
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Didn't watch either last night, need to catch up.
Great for SCD though. Any word when the Judge performed ?
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No they wouldn't, they would have been brave to take the SCD clash head on. They have done it in the past and still managed to pull in 7.8m (like last year) though admitadely that was for the six chair challenge.
Putting YBF (a rpt as well) at 7.30pm is being idiotic. It gave SCD an extra leap of viewers at 7.30pm which created a larger rating at 8pm for TXF to take on. |
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No X Factor clash for the Strictly results show tonight so the Strictly results show should have a similar rating to Saturday.
Strictly feels like a real competition already this year and you don't want to see people go unlike at this stage in previous years. Strictly shows that a strong format can not miss a beat when the host changes. As did XF ten years ago. Good news got C4. XF number was exactly what I predicted. It sounds like it was a good show too. How come it's moving studios next year? Are ITV moving from Ant and Dec tower? |
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Surprised to see The X Factor manage 6m against Strictly excluding the ads - the drop off for the breaks is very clear and seem quite big; a lot of people doing the same as me and catching up after Strictly, fast forwarding through the ads in the process?
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That would have been insane for X Factor. Why make the the overlap longer when you can make it shorter and get more live viewers on the night? You only do that with X Factor from a position of strength.
When TXF came on, SCD dropped to 9.8m. The momentom stopped. I think some TXF viewers who watched the football might have had SCD on until TXf started, then jumped ship. Starting earlier and taking out YBF surely would have kept the 7-7.30pm period over 3m, thus creatng a more stable lead in to TXF to gain some traction? |
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So the public like having celebrities who have already had dance training rather than celebrities learning to dance. Makes sense.
Strictly shows that a strong format can not miss a beat when the host changes. As did XF ten years ago. Good news got C4. XF number was exactly what I predicted. It sounds like it was a good show too. How come it's moving studios next year? Are ITV moving from Ant and Dec tower? |
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Putting X Factor on that early is most definitely not the answer. Moreover, I suspect you'd be branding ITV as "idiotic" if X Factor was on that early.
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Fountain Studios is being closed and demolished. I reckon they'll move the show to ITV Studios unless it sees a massive increase I'm viewing figures - the set will be smaller but it's all about making the show affordable.
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My scheduling for The X Factor would be to start it one hour before Strictly finishes then plug +1 for all it's worth at the appropriate break. That way it'd finish at a more family appropriate time but people would have the opportunity to watch both shows in full should they be inclined to do so.
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I don't think any of the studios in the Southbank building are big enough; the largest studio is Studio 1, which is home to the likes of Saturday Night Takeaway and Graham Norton. X Factor couldn't have a studio that small.
Is the BBC planning to return Strictly to TVX once it's refurbished? I heard rumours but not sure if they're true. |
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Ah well there you go. What way to piss off any lead in. Put a rpt of YBF on before TXF. Numpties.
But I suspect it was the choice of acts that put pay to a low rating for TXF. Had they been less about joke acts and serious singers, it might have been much closer to 7m. I agree about the lead in however. |
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Believe it or not, not everyone shares your weird hatred for the contestants this year. Most performances were excellent, the judges were on form and the production was superb. That is what the viewers will see.
I agree about the lead in however. There seems to be a real problem with separating fact from opinion on this thread. |
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My scheduling for The X Factor would be to start it one hour before Strictly finishes then plug +1 for all it's worth at the appropriate break. That way it'd finish at a more family appropriate time but people would have the opportunity to watch both shows in full should they be inclined to do so.
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Possibly Shepperton? It's where they filmed series 1 of Fame Academy and that looked more than big enough. As I said before the only question is the cost.
Is the BBC planning to return Strictly to TVX once it's refurbished? I heard rumours but not sure if they're true. If I remember rightly, I believe the three studios at TVC won't be anything like the size Strictly needs. I think they are only small scale studios. I might be wrong though. |
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I wonder what would happen if they brought X Factor forward to start before SCD, like 6.15 or something? Would people stick with it and catch up with SCD or switch over the minute it started? Would be interesting to see.
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There is no competition on XF this year unlike Strictly. One act (Matt) is leaps and bounds ahead of the rest and is the most obvious winner ever! It could've been a close competitive show had the right acts been selected.
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Personally I would have pulled TXF forward. If the BBC was a big clash, call their bluff. The football finished at 7pm I think. Cut the commentary 5 minutes or so. Start TXF at 7.10pm, allowing only a 20 minute head start for SCD. From the breakdown SCD started its mammoth growth at the point YBF came on air (with a 50% peak share). I am pretty certain TXF would be no lower with a full head on clash, even bigger than 50minutes. The XF clearly is staying as an 8pm show and ITV has decided that it'll pay off as SCD whittles its minutes away. ITV has the full details of the numbers and it suggests that XF is actually doing quite well overall. It's beating SCD with 18-34 year olds and consolidates well. We don't know those full numbers so we don't know. If Meet the Parents tops 3m it's a hit and needs renewing. Or if it consolidates to over 4m it's doing well. Its bar is very low as it's been given toxic land to build a home. Now if XF really wants to take on SCD, it needs to start before Strictly. If XF started at 6:30 and SCD started at 8pm then that would be an interesting battle. Not that I want to see it happen. |
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There is no competition on XF this year unlike Strictly. One act (Matt) is leaps and bounds ahead of the rest and is the most obvious winner ever! It could've been a close competitive show had the right acts been selected.
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There is no competition on XF this year unlike Strictly. One act (Matt) is leaps and bounds ahead of the rest and is the most obvious winner ever! It could've been a close competitive show had the right acts been selected.
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Possibly Shepperton? It's where they filmed series 1 of Fame Academy and that looked more than big enough. As I said before the only question is the cost.
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I expect ITV own other facilities they could use.
If I remember rightly, I believe the three studios at TVC won't be anything like the size Strictly needs. I think they are only small scale studios. I might be wrong though. Pinewood/Shepperton would be big enough for X Factor. It's a shame Fountain Studios is closing, a great space that always looks epic for entertainment shows. |
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Strictly shows that a strong format can not miss a beat when the host changes. As did XF ten years ago. Good news got C4.
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Fountain Studios is being closed and demolished. I reckon they'll move the show to ITV Studios unless it sees a massive increase I'm viewing figures - the set will be smaller but it's all about making the show affordable.
TV sets do seem small here. BT is the exception which exposes how small the sky sports sets are. Off topic I know. |
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