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The Ratings Thread (Part 68)
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Straker
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by gottago:
“I think this long series was commissioned before they announced they were canning benefits stuff so this should be the end of it.”

IIRC the last interview I read with the tit in charge over there, he rowed back on those promises to drop the poverty-porn so I reckon we can just continue to expect a steady stream of these as part of their weekly programming. Perhaps if he gets fired (fingers crossed) someone who doesn't want to exploit the poor might get hired and things will change. Doubt it though...
Ray Tings
05-08-2016
From ITV Media:

Thursday Top 10 (inc. +1)

1 BBC One - 07:30 PM EastEnders 5.528m 31%
2 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 5.045m 31%
3 BBC One - 06:30 PM Regional News and Weather 4.874m 33%
4 ITV - 08:00 PM Emmerdale 4.438m 24%
5 BBC One - 06:00 PM BBC News at Six 4.187m 30%
6 BBC One - 10:00 PM BBC News at Ten 4.177m 26%
7 BBC One - 10:30 PM Regional News and Weather 3.584m 25%
8 BBC One - 08:00 PM Holby City 3.377m 18%
9 BBC One - 07:00 PM The One Show 3.019m 19%
10 ITV - 09:00 PM The Investigator: A British Crime Story 2.783m 15%

Thursday Top 10 (inc. +1) (not including the five main channels)

1 ITV3 - 08:00 PM Endeavour 810k 4.3%
2 E4 - 07:00 PM Hollyoaks 678k 4.2%
3 E4 - 08:30 PM The Big Bang Theory 442k 2.4%
4 E4 - 06:30 PM The Big Bang Theory 441k 3.0%
5 5 USA - 10:00 PM Law & Order: Special Victims Unit 379k 2.6%
6 Sky1 - 09:00 PM Don't Tell the Bride 362k 1.9%
7 E4 - 08:00 PM The Big Bang Theory 360k 2.0%
8 E4 - 06:00 PM The Big Bang Theory 346k 2.5%
9 5 USA - 09:00 PM Chicago PD 344k 1.8%
10 ITV3 - 05:55 PM Heartbeat 341k 2.4%
Ben96
05-08-2016
What happened with the second Emmerdale?

EDIT - Just noticed, was It due to the Holby clash?
BillKay
05-08-2016
Another good night for BBC2
Alleycat666
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“From rzt

Pointless: 2.4m (22.2%)
Mo Farah: Race for Life: 2.48m (12.9%)

Cash Trapped: 1.82m (17.3%) inc +1
The Investigator: British Crime Story: 2.65m (13.8%) exc +1”

Cash Trapped slips below the 2m mark then - it's taken it 4 days.....
DarylDay1991
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by Straker:
“Why do they continue making Suspects with those numbers? It's the telly equivalent of vanity publishing if you ask me - Bit of window-dressing in amongst the execrable tat they air the rest of the time.”

Suspects is cheap to make, 6 episodes can be filmed in just 3 weeks, rather than the standard 2-3 weeks per episode..... Plus it consolidates really well when it follows CBB.....
DarylDay1991
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by YouView:
“I would like to have seen Suspects do closer to a million as frankly it deserves so, but a respectable figure and I'm sure it will consolidate well.

Wondering how their panel show It's Not Me It's You will perform in a CBB sandwich tomorrow as I think previous episodes have struggled.”

I think It's Not Me It's You is hilarious, it should be rating a lot more than it is. But that's the thing with Channel 5, it's always gonna have a poor reputation. They need to do with shows like this what Channel 4 / E4 did with Friends in order to change their reputation.

That or acquire a MAJOR comedy from America that's gonna get them mega ratings.
DarylDay1991
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by pdwill:
“If Channel 5 want a police procedural, wouldn't they be better served from a ratings perspective by simply bringing back "The Bill"?”

Watch this space.....
marke09
05-08-2016
Crimewatch to return in September with new presenter Jeremy Vine and it goes weekly
Jay Lee
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by marke09:
“Crimewatch to return in September with new presenter Jeremy Vine and it goes weekly”

Not sure whether this is sensible given peaktime Crimewatch was already in decline. I would have thought a move post BBC News at Ten would have been better than a Watchdog-esque weekly series - assuming these weekly shows are retaining the 9pm hour-long slot. Still, if it means more crimes can be solved, it's no bad thing.
Chris1964
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by Jay Lee:
“Not sure whether this is sensible given peaktime Crimewatch was already in decline. I would have thought a move post BBC News at Ten would have been better than a Watchdog-esque weekly series - assuming these weekly shows are retaining the 9pm hour-long slot. Still, if it means more crimes can be solved, it's no bad thing.”

An hour of Crimewatch is a lot every week, especially as the subject matter I reckon actively puts a lot of people off these days. I thought it might be a 30min slot to be honest.
Jay Lee
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“An hour of Crimewatch is a lot every week, especially as the subject matter I reckon actively puts a lot of people off these days. I thought it might be a 30min slot to be honest.”

I would have thought a new 30 minute format would have been better too but apparently we're getting hour-long editions ovee four weeks in September, followed by another burst in early 2017.

I used to watch Crimewatch quite regularly back in its Nick Ross / Sue Cook / Jill Dando days but ever since they started to edit the reconstructions with suspenseful background music and as mini "thriller" type films, its credibility has been stretched for me.
marke09
05-08-2016
Ripper Street is back on BBC Two w/c Aug 21
Steve Williams
05-08-2016
Be fascinating to see the share for the Olympic Opening Ceremony tonight, surely we must be on for a record. We've had them in the small hours before but they're much bigger business for the general audience now than they were in, for example, Atlanta in 1996.

I'm baffled by ITV ripping up the schedule on Sunday teatime to show the Arsenal vs Man City friendly. I know ITV want as much football as they can get but it seems bizarre to have something in that slot in that particular weekend. I know Countryfile is on as usual but none of the rest of the BBC1 Sunday teatime line-up is and surely if anyone is running away from BBC1 because it's all sport, potentially gifting ITV a larger audience, they're putting on more sport. Would seem to totally alienate the audience. And sports fans themselves will be watching the Olympics, or the other live football on Sky and BT at the same time. Also, showing a pre-season friendly can't help but look a bit desperate.

Originally Posted by DarylDay1991:
“That or acquire a MAJOR comedy from America that's gonna get them mega ratings.”

Well, they did do that when they bought Joey a decade ago, and the first episode was an enormous hit, it's just a shame the rest of the series was a bit of a disaster for them.

That was around the period when C5 were moving upmarket and investing in a lot more quality content, they started making more comedy which was welcome. The problem then, and it is now, is that it probably isn't distinctive enough to really stand out and demand to be watched. So they did a Room 101-style series called God Almighty with Clive Anderson which was amiable viewing, it was probably just as entertaining as Room 101. But you know, we already had Room 101. It's the same with It's Not Me It's You, really, it apes the format of Celebrity Juice so much it will never come out of its shadow and will always be the-show-that's-a-bit-like-Celebrity-Juice-and-is-alright-but-not-as-good-as-Celebrity-Juice-so-I'm-not-bothered-if-I-miss-it-unlike-Celebrity-Juice.

What C5 really need is to find a genre they can get in first with and own and become the destination to watch. Celebrity Juice is a good example because before that ITV2 wasn't doing anything much, but it was something different that other channels weren't doing and it was a bit of a USP. Now you have these other similar shows on ITV2 like Safeword, which are probably no better than It's Not Me It's You but they'll have a bit more traction with viewers because they're from the same channel as Celebrity Juice and go in its slot and instantly have a head start.

What the genre that C5 can own is, I don't know. That's their job.

Originally Posted by Jay Lee:
“Not sure whether this is sensible given peaktime Crimewatch was already in decline. I would have thought a move post BBC News at Ten would have been better than a Watchdog-esque weekly series - assuming these weekly shows are retaining the 9pm hour-long slot. Still, if it means more crimes can be solved, it's no bad thing.”

Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“An hour of Crimewatch is a lot every week, especially as the subject matter I reckon actively puts a lot of people off these days. I thought it might be a 30min slot to be honest.”

It's not going to be every week, as the press release says the first series is going to be four episodes long, so it'll presumably mean the same amount of Crimewatch on air as there is now, but concentrated in a few bursts. The benefit is that people will get into the habit of watching it, rather than just stumbling across it in the schedule, and presumably there's benefit for the Beeb schedulers in that they don't have to shoehorn it in somewhere.

I don't know if peaktime Crimewatch is declining, or at least no worse than anything else in peaktime.

Originally Posted by Chief_Wiggum:
“If Kelly wasn't the daughter of a very successful footballer, I think it could be considered doubtful that she would have got the Channel 5 gig in the first place.”

Well, this suggests some kind of issue with Kelly Cates which means she can do nothing right in your eyes, so I feel it's going to be unconstructive to carry on this discussion.
Jaycee Dove
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Cash Trapped is slowly dropping to poor figures. The one noticable thing is that Pointless is not rising as ITVs ratings drop.”

Dropping daily is a sure sign that the format is just not working. Everyone I know who watched it did so because of Bradley Walsh, but a couple have told me even his banter cannot save the turgid, confusing and seemingly unending stalemate of a quiz show.

Yesterday, for instance, the woman who would have won had she answered correctly and lost to someone else if they had answered first and correctly just pressed the button to end the show without hearing the question and guessed anything in order to make sure the show ended in its fourth successive 'draw' (as in nobody winning or losing).

Rules that not only allow that but pretty much force contestants into adopting them is badly flawed in its design.

So if this does return (there is a germ of a good idea there) it needs a thorough overhaul.

Looking forward to seeing how the Jeff Stelling show Alphabetical does. Sounds a better proposition as a quiz but he will be less well known to the ITV 5 pm audience who do not have Sky. Though his stint on Countdown will have helped. But he has a touch of the Bradleys about him so could go down well.
Salv*
05-08-2016
I see Broadcast updated, does anyone know what the following got with +1..

999 What's Your Emergency
CBB
Hotel Hell

Thank you
Jaycee Dove
05-08-2016
Any figures for what I expect will be the last ever episode of Boy Meets Girl?

It was amiable and watchable but belonged in 1986 not 2016 in terms of its status as a sit com. And it just sidelined the main premise and leads to favour the cartoon families and that has not worked.

The main story has played out and the ending is the perfect place to call it a day so maybe they wrote it with that in mind.

The plunging viewing figures for series 2 certainly do not suggest a series 3 is going to happen.
Chris1964
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by marke09:
“Ripper Street is back on BBC Two w/c Aug 21”

Excellent news.........................for me at least.
decafcappuccino
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by marke09:
“Ripper Street is back on BBC Two w/c Aug 21”

BBC 2 really ? I know its an amazon prime co production with the bbc but i would of thought it was still quite an expensive show to make. Moving it to bbc2 seems odd ?

The last series did ok after first being shown on amazon.
marke09
05-08-2016
With the Olympics finishing on August 21 will the Autumn season be brought forward or will we have two weeks of filler until September
A.D.P
05-08-2016
With Charlotte Moore no longer just the Controller of BBC One but now having responsibility for all of the BBC's television channels, I think we will now see " best use" of shows, and more swapping, We have had Eat well for less on earlier in summer not winter, we had the spring watchdog, cancelled, now revamped, Crimewatch revamp, of course bake off starts later, More professional dancers in Strictly? Now there will be no Doctor Who, but Class for BBC3 but it will get repeated.

Looks like there will be quite a shake up in September.
AndyB2007
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“Any figures for what I expect will be the last ever episode of Boy Meets Girl?

It was amiable and watchable but belonged in 1986 not 2016 in terms of its status as a sit com. And it just sidelined the main premise and leads to favour the cartoon families and that has not worked.

The main story has played out and the ending is the perfect place to call it a day so maybe they wrote it with that in mind.

The plunging viewing figures for series 2 certainly do not suggest a series 3 is going to happen.”

The show's writer clearly put Denise at the front because of the success of The 1975. The publicity from them would flow into the show and get people to watch. Hence why none of the Eldorado style bile BMG has had for this series - because of the 1975 adoration.

That 1975 thing has not worked and Elliot Kerrigan regrets listening to them as BMG has ranked in last place at 10pm for the entire run and being beaten by Australian soaps and Peter Snow despite having a lead in with Versailles.
Jay Lee
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“With Charlotte Moore no longer just the Controller of BBC One but now having responsibility for all of the BBC's television channels, I think we will now see " best use" of shows, and more swapping, We have had Eat well for less on earlier in summer not winter, we had the spring watchdog, cancelled, now revamped, Crimewatch revamp, of course bake off starts later, More professional dancers in Strictly? Now there will be no Doctor Who, but Class for BBC3 but it will get repeated.

Looks like there will be quite a shake up in September.”

I thought I read somewhere that, though Charlotte Moore is overseing BBC television, she retains her responsibility as BBC One controller - otherwise, surely they would have appointed a BBC One "editor" by now (as they have done for BBC Two recently). It's a shame because I feel BBC One could benefit from a fresh pair of eyes.
Jaycee Dove
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by AndyB2007:
“The show's writer clearly put Denise at the front because of the success of The 1975. The publicity from them would flow into the show and get people to watch. Hence why none of the Eldorado style bile BMG has had for this series - because of the 1975 adoration.

That 1975 thing has not worked and Elliot Kerrigan regrets listening to them as BMG has ranked in last place at 10pm for the entire run and being beaten by Australian soaps and Peter Snow despite having a lead in with Versailles.”

Do we know that from quotes somewhere? I can see it being true,however, and I certainly agree it was an error as the Leo/Judy obvious bond and love story was the best part of series 1 - not the 'riotous' comedy that has replaced it in series 2. Though the final episode was better than most in that regard.

It was also an error to make their relationship so smooth as any reading of real trans threads on here will show that it is likely there would have been at least some negative reaction within the two families.

That the two were so obviously matched from day one and faced no conflict that eased their smooth path towards the altar (or none shown) was part of the problem. The show became rapidly bland when its main reason for being different was all but sidelined and then ignored.

As someone mentioned on the BMG thread on here - what happens if Leo wants children? In real life that would be an issue way before the church in my experience and they would know the answers. There are possibilities - each of which could have created tension and conflict in the families that might have helped steer the show back towards doing what it started off just 12 months ago looking like it was planning to do.

Maybe they had that in mind for series 3. But I imagine now that is never going to happen.
Aaron_2015
05-08-2016
A new series of 'Rebound' will be replacing The Chase at some point. It has already been filmed, so maybe at the end of the month?
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