Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Is the regional news therefore at 7pm?”
Yes it is, with The One Show at 7.30. And highlights of the parade at 8.30. Of course Channel Four are showing it as well.
Originally Posted by northlad:
“Tom Bradbury just advised at end of The Agenda that next two programmes will be on for one hour and at 8.00pm on Tuesdays,which will be interesting from a ratings point of view,worth a try I suppose,and quiet brave.”
Brave is one word for it, yet. It's a dreadful line-up on ITV next Tuesday, though, factual from 7.30 until after the news, it looks like a leftover Perspectives film at 10.40. As I will argue in a moment, there is a place for factual in primetime, and I don't lead-ins are all that when there is a lot of churn about in the evening, but line-ups like that make the channel look so tedious, and like they're just flinging stuff on with no real thought.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“BBC Three docs on One - not really working, is it?”
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“A documentary better suited for after News At Ten. They don't promote them well anyway. BBC3 stuff is shown all over the place on BBC1 and BBC2 with no real planning.”
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“And I don't think there needs to be any planning, or specific slots, for BBC3 repeats on BBC1 and BBC2. Each programme will be watched or not on its own merit, not because it was "first shown on BBC3".
Having said that, it's no surprise that Reggie Yates' documentary rated so low. Very sad for the victims and their families, but gun crime in Chicago is not something many people in Britain will be bothered about.”
Yes, and the obvious reason they don't promote BBC3 programmes on BBC1 and 2 is because the idea is you're supposed to watch them on BBC3. If you promote them so heavily on BBC1 then they become BBC1 programmes and there's no point in having them on BBC3. And also the genres and types of programmes mean that it would make no sense in having them in a specific slot. The shows themselves are all different enough. I think the obesity autopsy might be quite a big draw if and when that's shown on TV. But you can't argue that the shows are ghettoised and the Beeb are ignoring younger viewers if they're all on in late slots, but then also complain it's a waste of a slot if you show one in primetime. One of the benefits of last night was that 1.8 million people know BBC3 exists as a going concern.
Anyway, I know it wasn't much of a draw last night, but BBC1 have always done shows like that at 9pm, there are the various hour-long Panoramas they have to show there as well. And of course in these straitened times it can't be big shows every night. Last week we had The Forgotten Children on ITV and it got a low rating and everyone said it didn't matter because it was on a worthwhile subject. The same is surely true here as well. And it's not like both BBC1 and ITV haven't had much lower ratings with far more populist fare.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“It's not about competing aggressively, it's about not putting drama on Monday at all in Autumn. They do in Winter and Broadchurch was a bigger hit than Cold Feet. Factual isn't the only alternative to drama. What about comedy? But no it's relentless factual that doesn't always appeal to people and drives viewers off.”
How do you know they don't put drama on Monday at all in autumn? It's only early October! There are weeks left! And if we have drama on several other nights of the week, and nights where the ITV competition is much weaker, what's the problem? And there is good factual and bad factual, some of it rates extremely well, much like drama and comedy can vary wildly.
Originally Posted by marke09:
“The 9pm BBC One docs are being shown at 10.45 in Wales - Last night we had ex rugby player Richard Parks climb Everest and next Monday is a programme about the 50th anniversary of the Aberfan disaster”
Indeed, meaning Match of the Day 2, which is on Monday next week to take in Liverpool vs Man U, is on BBC2 in Wales. I see ITV Wales are also doing a programme on Aberfan next Wednesday at 8pm as well.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Next week is a big one for the ITV soaps. In particular Emmerdale. I'm willing to bet, a couple of eps of Emmerdale will beat Corrie.”
You'd think, though, that given it's ITV's Mad Week Of Soap, they would actually be able to justify showing a few extra episodes but they've not done that at all. It seems bizarre that they're happy to fritter away hour-long and additional episodes just to dent 'stEnders or Strictly, or for the sake of it, but when the storyline appears to justify it they're all stuck in their usual slots. I'm not suggesting we need a million more episodes of soaps in the schedules but you know what I mean. At least they could justify it as saying the storyline demanded it.
I know I always seem to say it, but it used to be that you knew something big was happening in the soaps because they would do an hour-long episode or a double bill, and the casual audience spotted that in the schedule. But now they do that every week, so how do you tell the casual audience that something's happening?
Originally Posted by marke09:
“Odd scheduling? A new series of Asian Provocater starts at ten to midnight on Saturday night”
No, because it's a BBC3 programme which is available first on BBC3 online. Anyway, you can get a decent enough audience in that slot, there's still quite a big audience around after Match of the Day.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“No. Jimmy Tarbuck did due to high blood pressure. And John Sergeant famously quit as he felt he could win even though he was awful.”
Lots of others have dropped out as well, Kelly Brook did so because of a bereavement and there are others like Jade Jones who dropped out due to injury.