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The Ratings Thread (Part 68)
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ftv
12-10-2016
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Daybreak was axed when ratings fell to 600,000. It's funny when you think about it. The Good Morning Britain audience isn't the BBC Breakfast audience. They need to look elsewhere.”

And Adam Crozier said recently if GMB fell below a 15% share it would cease to be viable for ITV.
cylon6
12-10-2016
Originally Posted by ftv:
“And Adam Crozier said recently if GMB fell below a 15% share it would cease to be viable for ITV.”

He actually said that this year?
all_night
12-10-2016
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“He actually said that this year?”

Where is the exact quote of that? I've heard that a few times but don't recall ever seeing it myself.
cylon6
12-10-2016
Originally Posted by all_night:
“Where is the exact quote of that? I've heard that a few times but don't recall ever seeing it myself.”

Yes I have to see it to believe it.
Ray Tings
12-10-2016
From Broadcast:

Damned: 640k (4.2%) inc. +1

Slovenia v England peaked with 6.5m (31.1%) at 8.27pm.
sunbeam007
12-10-2016
Well I always thought TVAM was saved not by Roland Rat but by Happy Days. And Anne and Nick.

There really should be 1m viewers for a lighter programme than News.
cylon6
12-10-2016
Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“From Broadcast:

Damned: 640k (4.2%) inc. +1

Slovenia v England peaked with 6.5m (31.1%) at 8.27pm.”

That's quite a drop for Damned. And Morgana Robinson's The Agency had 605k.
cylon6
12-10-2016
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“Well I always thought TVAM was saved not by Roland Rat but by Happy Days. And Anne and Nick.

There really should be 1m viewers for a lighter programme than News.”

Anne and Nick were gold. Loved them.
Jaycee Dove
12-10-2016
Regarding the comments earlier about Netflix really be an add on to having Sky, they do seem to be targetting acquiring UK rights for many of the new US shows that you would have seen Sky buy quite recently.

Not just the new Star Trek series, but they have high profile US shows like Designated Survivor - which with the Keifer Sutherland lead you would have expected Sky to go for - and recent acquisitions of Frequency - the new US series based on the time travel cop movie - and The Expanse - a new SyFy space series.

Wonder if it will be Netflix outdoing Channel 4 for the spin off from The Good Wife, too? As that is now coming early next year in place of Star Trek Discovery that was set to launch the new streaming service in the US but has been put back to May due to them not even having cast it yet!
Dancc
12-10-2016
The Guardian reporting that the BBC only kept the Olympics because Discovery feared a backlash if they became the sole rights holders.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ghts-eurosport
cylon6
12-10-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“The Guardian reporting that the BBC only kept the Olympics because Discovery feared a backlash if they became the sole rights holders.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ghts-eurosport”

And Discovery were right.
sunbeam007
12-10-2016
Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“Regarding the comments earlier about Netflix really be an add on to having Sky, they do seem to be targetting acquiring UK rights for many of the new US shows that you would have seen Sky buy quite recently.

Not just the new Star Trek series, but they have high profile US shows like Designated Survivor - which with the Keifer Sutherland lead you would have expected Sky to go for - and recent acquisitions of Frequency - the new US series based on the time travel cop movie - and The Expanse - a new SyFy space series.

Wonder if it will be Netflix outdoing Channel 4 for the spin off from The Good Wife, too? As that is now coming early next year in place of Star Trek Discovery that was set to launch the new streaming service in the US but has been put back to May due to them not even having cast it yet!”

CSI, NCIS, BBT, Mentalist, Castle and Empire are some of the biggest shows of the last 10 years or more. Sky often missed out to 5 or 4 for the big shows. Even 24 and Lost weren't initially on sky.

Sky seem to realise that they need to keep making HBOesque drama. In a way, Jekyll and Beowulf are dramas that sky Atlantic might have done really well.
As might ITV Encore.

Time to leave the pool, fly and put on a pair of socks again. I need to marry a footballer.
Dancc
12-10-2016
Confirmed: Ben Fogle's New Lives in the Wild returns for a new series on C5 on Tuesday 25th October at 9pm.

Back-to-back episodes of previous series starts on My5 on Thursday 20th October.

Source: Channel 5.
centauri72
12-10-2016
Sky press release - it shows the deal they did a while back to have exclusive rights to all future HBO and Showtime shows (ie those starting from this year onward) is paying dividends, even in the Netflix era:

"The first episode of futuristic series Westworld has been watched by a consolidated audience of 1.84 million, making it the biggest launch of a brand new series in Sky Atlantic 's history. After being watched by an overnight audience of 458K on Tuesday 4th October, more than 1.38 million viewers have taken advantage of catching up on the show flexibly over the following seven days, through their Sky+ recordings and on demand."
Aaron_2015
12-10-2016
Originally Posted by ftv:
“And Adam Crozier said recently if GMB fell below a 15% share it would cease to be viable for ITV.”

I'm pretty sure that was well over a year ago.

The ratings are embarrassing, but ITV is still the only viable network to advertise on in the mornings.
davies88
12-10-2016
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Daybreak was axed when ratings fell to 600,000. It's funny when you think about it. The Good Morning Britain audience isn't the BBC Breakfast audience. They need to look elsewhere.”

If I remembered right, Daybreak started to pick up towards end of October and early November of launch year (while still in original format) then they started to GMTVify it then ratings started to freefall. They then panicked and washed the studio with yellow and scatter cushions and bought back Arnold and axed A&C then it was the end.

Too many changes, when the original format started to pick up. Im sure in October and early November of launch year, it settled around 800k. Then ratings started falling again when they changed the format.
marke09
12-10-2016
I see BBC One has started trailing Planet Earth 2 - where do you see this going?
Poldark's replacement on a Sunday from the 13 November ending on 18th December or the GBBO replacement on a Wednesday at 8pm starting November 2 ending then with two Wednesdays for BBC One to show the GBBO Christmas specials

Update - seen from programme Info that Arctic Live is on BBC Two at 8pm on November 2 so doubt they would have same type of programme on both channels
cylon6
12-10-2016
Originally Posted by davies88:
“If I remembered right, Daybreak started to pick up towards end of October and early November of launch year (while still in original format) then they started to GMTVify it then ratings started to freefall. They then panicked and washed the studio with yellow and scatter cushions and bought back Arnold and axed A&C then it was the end.

Too many changes, when the original format started to pick up. Im sure in October and early November of launch year, it settled around 800k. Then ratings started falling again when they changed the format.”

These are some of the GMB ratings for last week (week commencing Monday 3rd October) from Bushmills.
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“Here are the figures for this week

Mon – 16.9% / 660,000
Tues – 14.7% / 530,000
Weds – 16.3% / 610,000
Thurs - 14.9% / 550,000

Monday is the strongest ratings day, for some reason (and that reason can't be Morgan, as he also presents on Tuesday and Wednesday). Dreadful figures overall.”

Jonwo
12-10-2016
Originally Posted by marke09:
“I see BBC One has started trailing Planet Earth 2 - where do you see this going?
Poldark's replacement on a Sunday from the 13 November ending on 18th December or the GBBO replacement on a Wednesday at 8pm starting November 2 ending then with two Wednesdays for BBC One to show the GBBO Christmas specials

Update - seen from programme Info that Arctic Live is on BBC Two at 8pm on November 2 so doubt they would have same type of programme on both channels”

It'll likely be Mondays at 9pm.
robbaza
12-10-2016
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“And Discovery were right.”

Slippery slope this comment below is as well.The BBC are probably stupid enough to do some sort of sharing deal on one of there last big sports contracts,to save a few quid.


Hutton is also interested in increasing Eurosport’s Wimbledon coverage. “Eighteen months ago there was no Wimbledon coverage on Eurosport. Last year, we had it on in 12 markets and highlights and the finals in the UK, taking Wimbledon to pay TV audiences for the first time in the UK.

“Next year we are looking at 25 markets and I hope we can talk to Wimbledon and the BBC and deepen the relationship [in the UK] as well,” he said.
RickLopez
12-10-2016
Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“BBC1
EastEnders: 5.46m (27.5%)
The One Show: 4.39m (25.2%)
Holby City: 4.04m (19.4%)

BBC2
Great British Menu: 1.76m (8.9%)
Great Continental Railway Journeys: 1.70m (8.1%)
The Hairy Bikers: Chicken and Egg: 1.49m (7.2%)”

Why has the One Show suddenly jumped up above 4 million two days in a row?

Good night for BBC2 as well.

There seems to be a lot of gaps in the BBC schedule coming up soon, is there a definitive answer to what will replace them?
cylon6
12-10-2016
Originally Posted by robbaza:
“Slippery slope this comment below is as well.The BBC are probably stupid enough to do some sort of sharing deal on one of there last big sports contracts,to save a few quid.


Hutton is also interested in increasing Eurosport’s Wimbledon coverage. “Eighteen months ago there was no Wimbledon coverage on Eurosport. Last year, we had it on in 12 markets and highlights and the finals in the UK, taking Wimbledon to pay TV audiences for the first time in the UK.

“Next year we are looking at 25 markets and I hope we can talk to Wimbledon and the BBC and deepen the relationship [in the UK] as well,” he said.”

It all started years ago when the BBC sold off some F1 coverage to Sky. It needs to hold onto a few exclusive events. Every channel needs them.
cylon6
12-10-2016
Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“Why has the One Show suddenly jumped up above 4 million two days in a row?

Good night for BBC2 as well.

There seems to be a lot of gaps in the BBC schedule coming up soon, is there a definitive answer to what will replace them?”

I was wondering the same thing about The One Show. In Tuesday it was facing news instead of Emmerdale but on Monday it jumped to 4m. I have no explanation.
Jonwo
12-10-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“One of C5's most watched 10pm shows all year.

Should never have cancelled / rested Extraordinary People. It's always done a job. And the titles don't have to be that shocking for it to rate.”

I imagine it'll be recommissioned and moved to 9pm. I wonder why it was rested in the first place, it never rated badly
Andy23
12-10-2016
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“He actually said that this year?”

Originally Posted by all_night:
“Where is the exact quote of that? I've heard that a few times but don't recall ever seeing it myself.”

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Yes I have to see it to believe it.”

It's one of those quotes where if a certain person repeats it often enough, it becomes fact, and it's certainly been repeated many times over the last few years.

Also if someone says something once years ago, it stays with them forever as a current opinion and never expires
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