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Seems to me that ITV needs to change its Saturday night strategy and target the audience that's there. If that's old skewing then put older skewing programming such as their two hour detective dramas at the centre of the schedule.
Move the XF to midweek. Use it to reboot Tuesday's @ 8, with the results show playing Thursday's 8 to 9 and build these slots for light entertainment. Starting the auditions in October and lives from Dec to Feb. Giving each judge one category of each. Having no judge have any categories and just let them judge. Run a series where there only under 30s or even over 30s (that would be brave or crazy), maybe with no groups. Allow proper groups in who play instruments. Make it a true singing competition like Idol was. Though TVUK should do that. Move it to midweek like you say. I'm not sure Midsommer at 7pm would work but it'd be interesting. Robin of Sherwood certainly worked. |
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X Factor has produced a lot of chart success over the years but its always been middle of the road pop hasn't it? (I stand to be corrected). They give them all known songs to have a go at, the winner gets an old song as a starter, and they go on to produce more largely bland music if they are lucky. Is it just that the audience of whatever age is just getting tired of that merry go round?
You yourself may think the music is "bland", others won't. |
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Dannii and Cheryl did not make TXF unmissable TV. The show naturally was on the up because of Leona's success, and the judges were there at the right time. TXF lost its mojo years ago, and people are frankly sick of the charts clogged up by wannabe stars. The winner most likely won't get the Christmas Number 1 and will be at the mercy of every song they release. Quote:
That was also a period where big US acts appearing on the live shows was a big deal. Those stars aren't a draw now as we see them so often everywhere else. Britney was also huge back then too.
TXF arguably peaked when they got Beyonce, which took a lot of grovelling on Simon's part because of previous comments he made about her. |
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Getting rid of Simon Cowell from the judging panel and replacing him with someone who makes a real contribution might be a start.
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...and of the BBC's most popular shows with younger viewers, The Apprentice, is hosted by someone turning 70 next year.
The presenters' age doesn't seem to match the skew of a show. I expect most of Amazon's new subscribers for The Grand Tour will be younger than Jeremy Clarkson (56). |
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Getting rid of Simon Cowell from the judging panel and replacing him with someone who makes a real contribution might be a start.
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BBC1 doesn't have a default audience,programmes do. If BBC1 did have a default audience Tumble would have been a hit and have numbers the size of Strictly and Cuff would have matched Bake Off's ratings on Wednesdays. If Strictly wasn't there 9m wouldn't be automatically switching on BBC1.
The younger the programme or the channel, the less relevant overnights are. I'm surprised SCD doesn't do better. |
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Seems to me that ITV needs to change its Saturday night strategy and target the audience that's there. If that's old skewing then put older skewing programming such as their two hour detective dramas at the centre of the schedule.
Move the XF to midweek. Use it to reboot Tuesday's @ 8, with the results show playing Thursday's 8 to 9 and build these slots for light entertainment. Saturdays had the LE from sixish and the older skewing dramas later in the evening, when the kids had gone out. |
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The X Factor fanclub on this thread is really pathetic and boring, isn't it? Only one or two posters, mind you. But they do ruin things.
I do find it amusing how well Strictly is doing. I enjoyed it far more in years gone by where it was less fake and had more complicated routines, really stunning dances from the celebs and naturally funny joke acts. It's gone a bit too knowing for me. I guess X Factor's demise has seen people who have never watched Strictly before finding something else - so really you could say Strictly have XF to thank for their renewed success
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Simon is still a draw, he brings something to a panel in terms of charisma.
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The X Factor fanclub on this thread is really pathetic and boring, isn't it? Only one or two posters, mind you. But they do ruin things.
I do find it amusing how well Strictly is doing. I enjoyed it far more in years gone by where it was less fake and had more complicated routines, really stunning dances from the celebs and naturally funny joke acts. It's gone a bit too knowing for me. I guess X Factor's demise has seen people who have never watched Strictly before finding something else - so really you could say Strictly have XF to thank for their renewed success ![]() |
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But that's the route The X Factor went down - that's why it's in the mess it's in now; because it came far too obvious and fake for people to take to it in their 10m's. Strictly has to be careful but I think they're treading the line reasonably well so far, especially considering the issues they've had to deal with this year.
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If a show either remains the same or increases its audience by a marginal number, and its 'competition' plunges in audience number, does this say that the first show is in battle with the second and is 'destroying' it, or that the second show has destroyed itself? The press and ratings thread are talking about a non existant battle here me thinks.
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Tutankhamun does not sound in the least bit appealing to me. Am I alone?
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Getting rid of Simon Cowell from the judging panel and replacing him with someone who makes a real contribution might be a start.
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I agree, people are tiring of him. Once a year on BGT is enough. He's not the draw he once was.
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Tutankhamun does not sound in the least bit appealing to me. Am I alone?
I do wonder if it will retain Victoria's audience (especially if there's an overlap between them and Poldark, and the Victoria viewers catching up with Poldark will watch live tonight instead). Also, what genre is it supposed to be? Mummies coming to life? Or just a romantically elaborated docudrama? The pre-publicity I've seen isn't clear at all (and Radio Times suggesting it's in some way like DA when the only thing they have in common is a location just confuses matters). |
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I agree, people are tiring of him. Once a year on BGT is enough. He's not the draw he once was.
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I agree, people are tiring of him. Once a year on BGT is enough. He's not the draw he once was.
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I've not seen any evidence of this; the negativity is all towards the novelty acts.
The trouble is, it never has been, and Cowell's obsession with credibility has killed what the show once was. It needs the novelty acts. However, as the ratings for last year's TXF and this year's TVUK indicate, there is audience fatigue with the format. And yet ITV signed a three-year deal for more, and took the rights to TVUK. I wonder what they're thinking about that now … |
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If it was anybody else they would have got rid of him ages ago. Is he another ''close friend'' of Kevin Lygo I wonder ?
Nope, I've still not got it... 🙄 |
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Correction: you're tiring of him. You don't speak for 60 million Brits.
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I've not seen any evidence of this; the negativity is all towards the novelty acts.
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Correction: you're tiring of him. You don't speak for 60 million Brits.
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If it was anybody else they would have got rid of him ages ago. Is he another ''close friend'' of Kevin Lygo I wonder ?
I actually would stick to the idea of singing songs people over 25 know. You aren't going to win back Radio 2 people in a few weeks. Either you have a long-term plan or you just flit from one idea to the other. ITV needs to stick with shows and ideas rather than throwing stuff against a wall and hoping something sticks. |
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