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The Ratings Thread (Part 68)
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Andy23
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“Oops! Missed that! That was a brilliant week.


Corrie upped the ante tonight. A lot happened that wasn't leaked. Hopefully we can have more of this now Kate Oates is in charge.”

Indeed, but because it didn't happen on Monday and Wednesday, the week has already been dismissed as a let down, and no doubt Stuart Blackburn's fault.
cylon6
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Indeed, but because it didn't happen on Monday and Wednesday, the week has already been dismissed as a let down, and no doubt Stuart Blackburn's fault.”

Maybe it is still his fault?
H of De Vil
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Indeed, but because it didn't happen on Monday and Wednesday, the week has already been dismissed as a let down, and no doubt Stuart Blackburn's fault.”

Oh for goodness sake. Can you really not handle any citicism about anything on ITV or about ITV?

Blackburn was a terrible producer, that I think is a given fact. But tonight's Corrie was under Kate Oates. It was no means perfect, but it was better than big episodes under Blackburn have been.

But there are still improvements to be made. Namely cutting the dead wood that still cling on for dear life.
Baz_James
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“On a slightly related subject..
http://www.tvguide.com/news/matt-leb...iends-reunion/”

Nice use of the misleading headline there. Le Blanc and Schwimmer already did one for Episodes though so it wouldn't be that big a deal, would it?
cylon6
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Oh for goodness sake. Can you really not handle any citicism about anything on ITV or about ITV?

Blackburn was a terrible producer, that I think is a given fact. But tonight's Corrie was under Kate Oates. It was no means perfect, but it was better than big episodes under Blackburn have been.

But there are still improvements to be made. Namely cutting the dead wood that still cling on for dear life.”

Andy23 is either an ITV shareholder or is Adam Crozier. I'm not sure which as both seem plausible!
Roscoe Barnes
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Indeed, but because it didn't happen on Monday and Wednesday, the week has already been dismissed as a let down, and no doubt Stuart Blackburn's fault.”

I've liked how the soaps have built their stories across the week to the climax's on Friday. It was a refreshing change - especially for Corrie, as normally all their big episodes are on Monday's, but I think doing things this way really benefit the stories and reward the viewers for those that watch every episode across the week.
cylon6
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by SULLA:
“I like accuracy




Good post



OK I accept what you have said.

What programmes do you watch ?

I have never suggested that the thread be closed.

I get the distinct impression that my views are not welcome on this thread ”

I apologise as you're not trolling. But when you come into a thread that has been running for as long as this has and just say call it viewing figures not ratings, and that you might ask the moderator to change the name don't be surprised if people challenge you on it.
Aaron_2015
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Oh for goodness sake. Can you really not handle any citicism about anything on ITV or about ITV?

Blackburn was a terrible producer, that I think is a given fact. But tonight's Corrie was under Kate Oates. It was no means perfect, but it was better than big episodes under Blackburn have been.

But there are still improvements to be made. Namely cutting the dead wood that still cling on for dear life.”

Sorry H but you earned yourself a reputation for blaming EVERYTHING on Blackburn. Dodgy script? Blackburn. Bad continuity? Blackburn. Broken street light? Blackburn.
cylon6
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“I've liked how the soaps have built their stories across the week to the climax's on Friday. It was a refreshing change - especially for Corrie, as normally all their big episodes are on Monday's, but I think doing things this way really benefit the stories and reward the viewers for those that watch every episode across the week.”

It's what they should do but as Fridays have been low rating they like to do big moments on the higher rated episodes of the week.
H of De Vil
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Aaron_2015:
“Sorry H but you earned yourself a reputation for blaming EVERYTHING on Blackburn. Dodgy script? Blackburn. Bad continuity? Blackburn. Broken street light? Blackburn.”

Well yes, but that was because it was under him. If it was poor under his tenure, then its likely to be his influence.

This week has been fully Kate Oates from what I've heard online. Her tenure has so far been pretty weak, but this week stepped it up a bit more, and improvment is showing.
sunbeam007
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“Nice use of the misleading headline there. Le Blanc and Schwimmer already did one for Episodes though so it wouldn't be that big a deal, would it?”

I didn't see it but I assume Schwimmer just guested in Episodes whereas this is implying a genuine crossover between two different shows.
I can't think of that happening in sitcoms since Laverne and Shirley/Mork and Mindy/Happy Days. I'm pretty sure King of Queens wasn't spun off Raymond.

Tell a lie, there was a cameo from Mad About You on Friends to do with Ursula but that's hardly a genuine crossover.

But yes, the headline was bogus.
sunbeam007
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“It's what they should do but as Fridays have been low rating they like to do big moments on the higher rated episodes of the week.”

Would it nor make sense to treat the week almost like one large episode? So each episode leads to Friday which then has a huge cliffhanger over the weekend to build some hype.

You'd run that special week every so often. It's a bit like the soap equivalent of the wrestling old PPV.
Andy23
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Oh for goodness sake. Can you really not handle any citicism about anything on ITV or about ITV?

Blackburn was a terrible producer, that I think is a given fact. But tonight's Corrie was under Kate Oates. It was no means perfect, but it was better than big episodes under Blackburn have been.

But there are still improvements to be made. Namely cutting the dead wood that still cling on for dear life.”

Maybe I just find it miserable how during the big week for the ITV soaps there have been more posts criticising them than praise. "I thought the episodes were ok, but... I will point out lots of minor issues that will then be discussed at length", lots of people who never like anything on ITV coming along with fake opinions of how they just happened to dislike the episodes.

It's always the case on DS that if you come here excitedly about to praise something, there will be an endless queue of people ready to stamp out those views as quickly as possible.

Regarding tonight's Emmerdale, that last five minutes was really well done, when viewers didn't know who was dead until the camera panned along, and then the episode ended just as it began on Monday. They should be soap awards forthcoming.
cylon6
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Maybe I just find it miserable how during the big week for the ITV soaps there have been more posts criticising them than praise. "I thought the episodes were ok, but... I will point out lots of minor issues that will then be discussed at length", lots of people who never like anything on ITV coming along with fake opinions of how they just happened to dislike the episodes.

It's always the case on DS that if you come here excitedly about to praise something, there will be an endless queue of people ready to stamp out those views as quickly as possible.

Regarding tonight's Emmerdale, that last five minutes was really well done, when viewers didn't know who was dead until the camera panned along, and then the episode ended just as it began on Monday. They should be soap awards forthcoming.”

Well tough. So what if nobody agrees with you? If you like it that's all that matters. Maybe some people genuinely didn't like it. I say now that I think the filming of the pile up in Emmerdale wasn't well directed or edited. And I also think that the ratings for soap week up to Thursday have been decent but haven't wowed me. I will keep saying those things. If you want to praise Emmerdale go right ahead and use the dedicated Emmerdale thread. Nobody will stop you. But you can't stop people expressing opinions.

"Ooh! Somebody said something bad about a channel I like!" Really? REALLY?
cylon6
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“Would it nor make sense to treat the week almost like one large episode? So each episode leads to Friday which then has a huge cliffhanger over the weekend to build some hype.

You'd run that special week every so often. It's a bit like the soap equivalent of the wrestling old PPV.”

Setting episodes on the same day? You can't do that too often.
Aaron_2015
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Well tough. So what if nobody agrees with you? If you like it that's all that matters. Maybe some people genuinely didn't like it. I say now that I think the filming of the pile up in Emmerdale wasn't well directed or edited. And I also think that the ratings for soap week up to Thursday have been decent but haven't wowed me. I will keep saying those things. If you want to praise Emmerdale go right ahead and use the dedicated Emmerdale thread. Nobody will stop you. But you can't stop people expressing opinions.”

Except that's exactly what you're trying to do by telling somebody to post elsewhere and making personal comments.
sunbeam007
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Maybe I just find it miserable how during the big week for the ITV soaps there have been more posts criticising them than praise. "I thought the episodes were ok, but... I will point out lots of minor issues that will then be discussed at length", lots of people who never like anything on ITV coming along with fake opinions of how they just happened to dislike the episodes.

It's always the case on DS that if you come here excitedly about to praise something, there will be an endless queue of people ready to stamp out those views as quickly as possible.

Regarding tonight's Emmerdale, that last five minutes was really well done, when viewers didn't know who was dead until the camera panned along, and then the episode ended just as it began on Monday. They should be soap awards forthcoming.”

People will have different opinions to you and they'll be negative. I'm not sure what you want them to do unless you expect them not to comment.

Going by how you describe it - it seems like they took a gimmick episode from an American crime drama and turned it in to a week of episodes. That's a simple yet effective idea.

FWIW I caught the last few minutes of the 7pm episode today. It seemed emotional to me and I don't know any characters. For fans I'm sure it was good.
sunbeam007
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Setting episodes on the same day? You can't do that too often.”

Oh no. More that you start a story arc that you work uo over so many weeks which culminates in that story being the BIG story in the 'PPV week'. That big week could still be covering many days.
cylon6
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Aaron_2015:
“Except that's exactly what you're trying to do by telling somebody to post elsewhere and making personal comments.”

They can post here and go into more detail on the Emmerdale thread. I do. I'm not stopping Andy from posting. But to get so worked up because somebody says something negative about a programme or channel you like. If you didn't make a programme or have friends or family that make a programme being criticised then I see no point in getting so defensive that they need to respond to every negative post and/or make sly digs at people. "Some people say this. Some people say that." Don't be a coward name names.

This place is more like a school playground some days than a forum with adults discussing ratings. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN THIS BLOODY PLACE?

I like lots of things that people think are crap. I don't care.
Andy23
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“People will have different opinions to you and they'll be negative. I'm not sure what you want them to do unless you expect them not to comment.”

That's not what I was saying. It's the fact that almost all the posts or at least two thirds, were negative, many from people jumping on the bandwagon when they see a bit of bashing is on the go, or from people who never like the show in question in the first place.
sunbeam007
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“That's not what I was saying. It's the fact that almost all the posts or at least two thirds, were negative, many from people jumping on the bandwagon when they see a bit of bashing is on the go, or from people who never like the show in question in the first place.”

Well I've commented as much as anyone and I've not been negative since I've not seen the episodes. I've talked generically.
There have not been that many different people commenting on it that I've noticed. Clearly you've disliked cylon's tone but it seemed to me only a few commented and many were underwhelmed.

Now I accept I'm not invested in the topic so I won't have paid the attention that you have - and I certainly don't know who are 'known' to dislike Emmerdale - but I've not noticed any agendas. It's not like the XF jibes.

Though nothing is like the XF jibes.
lewiep93
21-10-2016
From rzt:

12/10/16 Consolidated ratings:

Great British Bake Off: 13.25m
The Missing: 7.82m

Great British Bake Off
Live Viewing: 7.71m (39.8%)
VOSDAL: 2.78m
Following 7 Days: 2.76m

The Missing
Live Viewing: 4.86m (27.2%)
VOSDAL: 1.12m
Following 7 Days: 1.84m
sunbeam007
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“From rzt:

12/10/16 Consolidated ratings:

Great British Bake Off: 13.25m
The Missing: 7.82m

Great British Bake Off
Live Viewing: 7.71m (39.8%)
VOSDAL: 2.78m
Following 7 Days: 2.76m

The Missing
Live Viewing: 4.86m (27.2%)
VOSDAL: 1.12m
Following 7 Days: 1.84m”

Fascinating. Thanks.
So 7.8m watch GBBO live with another near 3m watching it watching it slightly later. That's the true inheritance for The Missing.

Incidentally, those asking why the Missing has lost 1m viewers might find that many of those will catch-up on it.
H of De Vil
22-10-2016
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“From rzt:

12/10/16 Consolidated ratings:

Great British Bake Off: 13.25m
The Missing: 7.82m

Great British Bake Off
Live Viewing: 7.71m (39.8%)
VOSDAL: 2.78m
Following 7 Days: 2.76m

The Missing
Live Viewing: 4.86m (27.2%)
VOSDAL: 1.12m
Following 7 Days: 1.84m”

Thanks lewi and rzt

Excellent for Bake-Off. The Missing consolidatd nicely. 7.8m is a good figure.

I suspect the drop for The Missing is, that as well as the competition rising on ITV (though minimal) I think its too clever for its own good. And I bet many of those who stopped watching, were the older generation who couldn't make head nor tail of the change if time back and forth.

Certainly my Gran had this trouble (though still watching).
Leeah
22-10-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Maybe I just find it miserable how during the big week for the ITV soaps there have been more posts criticising them than praise. "I thought the episodes were ok, but... I will point out lots of minor issues that will then be discussed at length", lots of people who never like anything on ITV coming along with fake opinions of how they just happened to dislike the episodes.

It's always the case on DS that if you come here excitedly about to praise something, there will be an endless queue of people ready to stamp out those views as quickly as possible.

Regarding tonight's Emmerdale, that last five minutes was really well done, when viewers didn't know who was dead until the camera panned along, and then the episode ended just as it began on Monday. They should be soap awards forthcoming.”

Yes! Which lets face it was what this week was REALLY all about! Especially pandering to the Robron fandom (their awards bait) doing an episode on Monday just featuring them two
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