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The Ratings Thread (Part 68)
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gavin shipman
22-10-2016
Brilliant for both Emmerdale and Corrie. More so Emmerdake as its been fantastic this week. EE has been very hit and miss for me. Last night was good but was an anti climax personally.
Ray Tings
22-10-2016
"Congrats to @emmerdale for #noreturn stunt week, 7m for finale, most watched show Friday ahead of #Corrie. Highest share, 37%, in years."
Liam Hamilton@LiamHamilton16
LHolmes
22-10-2016
Originally Posted by Aaron_2015:
“Agreed, but it won't work at Christmas. It's a tradition to have a massive Christmas Day episode, and it works.”

The Christmas Day ratings have been disappointing the last couple of years.

The New Year episodes are often EE's highest rated over the period.

Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“I truly think that this is the end of Corrie and EE as "the big two" soaps. ED has shown it can compete in quality and ratings.”

To be fair 'the big three' is commonly referred to on here and on the soaps forum, including Emmerdale.

It's too early to say whether Emmerdale is about to usurp EE as the second highest rated on a regular basis. This week is a big one for them.

In most average weeks, they can be close in overnights but then the gap widens somewhat in EE's favour in timeshift. That's without even trying to get to the bottom of the iPlayer numbers (as a balance to +1).

Originally Posted by Aaron_2015:
“The ratings for EE are going to start dropping soon enough. The new producers insistence on everyday storylines is dull, and the idea of a "quiet" Christmas fills me with dread.

Don't expect much from EE this Christmas. 😟”

Well they've seemed pretty stable of late and in some cases have been rising so I think it's too early to say.

There has certainly been a gear change in EE but after the half-baked sensationalism of DTC, which often entailed characters behaving OOC, I think it was needed. He hasn't given an interview as yet, but I don't think SOC is anti meaty storylines, I think he's just grounding the show before he starts some. Something will happen. He worked on the show as a storyliner in 2001/2 so I see no reason to doubt this. Based on his work so far, I expect/hope his big stories will be tighter plotted than some of DTC's holey meandering ones, and feature less retcons/OOC behaviour.

Originally Posted by welshfoxy:
“Hilarious. When did EE manage to break 7 mil? Your post is a parody.”

To be fair prior to this week, probably more recently than Emmerdale had.

EE is on course to have the highest rated soap episode of the year in the end of year chart.
James J
22-10-2016
Wonder if anyone has a list of the top 10 soap episodes of 2016 so far?
Aaron_2015
22-10-2016
ITV should probably have put X Factor back 20 minutes. That way, you'll get more Strictly viewers turning over. Only the committed X Factor fans will turn over and not see the end of Strictly, and those who have watched Strictly will have already missed 20 mins of X Factor, so won't bother seeing the rest.
Aurora13
22-10-2016
Originally Posted by derek500:
“We're stacking The Missing and most other dramas until we've got them all and watch nightly.

Only drama we're watching same week at the moment is Westworld. That's purely because of the hype.

Black Mirror season three launched in Netflix last night, all six episodes. Anyone watched any yet?”

I'm stacking The Missing and Paranoid. I see the latter is not getting good reviews so it might not get beyond first episode we'll see. As for the Missing I was disappointed with the ending last time. Just a series of coincidences and what turned out to be random side plots to fill the episodes. One of Us even worse by same writers. They were both carried by the actors not the script. Ken Stott in particular in first series of The Missing. So decided to let it run through and not get drawn into expecting too much.
Salv*
22-10-2016
Fantastic for Emmerdale. I have only watched Emmerdale 3 times in my life but watched the episode last night and if I was a normal viewer, I would be addicted I reckon. I watched 7 mins of Corrie (which i have only seen 4 times in my life) and thought "wtf is this" and switched over to Channel 4. I know 7 mins is hardly an amount of time to judge a show, but Emmerdale was so much better and Corrie shouldn't be getting those numbers.

Great rating for SUTC especially that Gogglebox section which is looking like it will be around 3.5m incl +1.
welshfoxy
22-10-2016
My TV guide advertised an episode of Humans during the SUTC night, yet on the programme guide last night it wasn't mentioned. Did this happen?

Also I'm currently watching the first series of Humans on 4od, almost finished, and guess what? They advertise promos for the upcoming second series during it! I don't want to know anything about series 2 while watching series 1, do I? I know getting the bums on seats is channel's only priority but really.
Dan R
22-10-2016
Originally Posted by Aaron_2015:
“ITV should probably have put X Factor back 20 minutes. That way, you'll get more Strictly viewers turning over. Only the committed X Factor fans will turn over and not see the end of Strictly, and those who have watched Strictly will have already missed 20 mins of X Factor, so won't bother seeing the rest.”

What, and let XF run into the post-10pm doom slot? There are about 6 million committed fans who watch even when SCD is on (the clash average is only brought down by the ads).
It's be much more reasonable to ask SCD to move their show back 10 mins to cooperate, it'll help XF without shifting SCD's start time too much. A 10 minute clash would be nothing.
sunbeam007
22-10-2016
Originally Posted by dennisboy:
“Not to drag this argument up again, but to be fair without +1 neither ED or Corrie probably did.”

That argument predates me and I can imagine it was split amongst channel lines.
FWIW - I can't imagine many are watching something twice even when it's possible. It would be weird. Having said that people choose not to watch in HD so people are weird.

And I watch soccer in x6 so .....!


Originally Posted by Dan R:
“What, and let XF run into the post-10pm doom slot? There are about 6 million committed fans who watch even when SCD is on (the clash average is only brought down by the ads).
It's be much more reasonable to ask SCD to move their show back 10 mins to cooperate, it'll help XF without shifting SCD's start time too much. A 10 minute clash would be nothing.”

SCD should not move if it doesn't want to. It's loss Will yet lost no minutes which sums up how padded these shows are. XF could easily start later and still finish before 10pm but they pad it out.

You can't blame them for that. What puzzles me is why XF just doesn't lengthen the shows by lengthening the songs. This especially applies on Sundays when they could sing the full songs.
A.D.P
22-10-2016
" Class" on BBC3 is very good, Episode 1 and 2 out now should get good viewing. Episode. 1 has The Doctor in it.
A.D.P
22-10-2016
Originally Posted by Dan R:
“What, and let XF run into the post-10pm doom slot? There are about 6 million committed fans who watch even when SCD is on (the clash average is only brought down by the ads).
It's be much more reasonable to ask SCD to move their show back 10 mins to cooperate, it'll help XF without shifting SCD's start time too much. A 10 minute clash would be nothing.”

SCD is far more popular than XF and basically can go where it want. Many shop workers in retail wouldn't see it if it started earlier.

Why should a 10 million viewer show move for one that gets 5 / 6 million live.

ITV have plus1 - catch up, people record and zap the padding or adverts.

The days of having to watch live a well gone.

Is XF so weak, that people have to request a more popular show to get out of its way? What next, move Antiques roadshow as its only a million behind XF. Should BBC1 put a test card up to help XF?

XF needs to start at 8.30 and cut the padding and bloating, even then, the viewers who have left it, may not come back. If people want to watch it, whatever is on, the other side then they will watch it.

See the consolidation on figures for GBBO or The Missing.

The honest thing is XF is fragile, and the die hard fans like to blame SCD, but when XF doesn't have SCD it rates worse, SCD helps it as it gets viewers in and sitting down who switch over.

BBC1 has Pointless on for 50 minutes before, and with the News and prior sports and results SCD couldn't go on earlier. In fact as MOTD is starting at 10.20 I would argue the 6.35 SCD start rather than 6.45 is to help support the fragile XF.
H of De Vil
22-10-2016
Excellent for Emmerdale last night. Really showing up how weak Corrie has been for so long. the latter budged very little from its usual ratings.

Though I suspect both Emmerdale and Corrie to get better ratings on Monday.
welshfoxy
22-10-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“SCD is far more popular than XF and basically can go where it want. Many shop workers in retail wouldn't see it if it started earlier.”

I thought they'd be more XF demographic?
Dan R
22-10-2016
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“That argument predates me and I can imagine it was split amongst channel lines.
FWIW - I can't imagine many are watching something twice even when it's possible. It would be weird. Having said that people choose not to watch in HD so people are weird.

And I watch soccer in x6 so .....!




SCD should not move if it doesn't want to. It's loss Will yet lost no minutes which sums up how padded these shows are. XF could easily start later and still finish before 10pm but they pad it out.

You can't blame them for that. What puzzles me is why XF just doesn't lengthen the shows by lengthening the songs. This especially applies on Sundays when they could sing the full songs.”

Double standards much? If SCD goes wherever it wants so can XF.
sunbeam007
22-10-2016
Originally Posted by Dan R:
“Double standards much? If SCD goes wherever it wants so can XF.”

Precisely. But if it chooses to accept a clash then it has to accept the consequences.

Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“ Many shop workers in retail wouldn't see it if it started earlier.

The days of having to watch live a well gone.”

Errr.....
dennisboy
22-10-2016
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“That argument predates me and I can imagine it was split amongst channel lines.
FWIW - I can't imagine many are watching something twice even when it's possible. It would be weird. Having said that people choose not to watch in HD so people are weird.

And I watch soccer in x6 so .....!”

As I said, I don't want to get too into it but it's unfair to compare Emmerdale getting 7m with TWO channels to help it than EastEnders just missing out with Peggy's death with one channel.
Andy23
22-10-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Many shop workers in retail wouldn't see it if it started earlier.

.”

Just when you thought the weekend nonsense in this thread couldn't get dafter, I've heard it all now.
lewiep93
22-10-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Just when you thought the weekend nonsense in this thread couldn't get dafter, I've heard it all now.”

It's like Samuel's Stan and Doris from next door all over again.
Aaron_2015
22-10-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Just when you thought the weekend nonsense in this thread couldn't get dafter, I've heard it all now.”

I know, it's unbelievable. The shite some members come out with would almost be funny if they weren't being deadly serious!
Andy23
22-10-2016
I see in next week's TV mags, the recent events in ED and CS is completely ignored and the descriptions lead on other more minor storylines. Good to ensure the outcome wasn't leaked, but bad if people think Monday's Emmedale is really just going to be about Chrissie.
Roscoe Barnes
22-10-2016
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“From rzt:

BBC One
EastEnders: 5.74m (28.7%)

ITV Inc +1:
Emmerdale: 7.10m (37.5%)
Coronation Street (19.30): 7.12m (35.8%)
Coronation Street (20.30): 7.23m (34.8%)”

Excellent for Emmerdale last night. It started the week with 6.2m and has climbed every night before ending on 7.1m (with that huge share ). Thoroughly deserved too.

Corrie also has increased throughout the week, but even though it's up on how Friday's have been performing recently, those numbers are extremely close to Emmerdale. Corrie should be at least 1m ahead.

EE didn't benefit at all last night from both Emmerdale and Corrie been up.

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“I know this is coming across as harsh but for a big soap week I think Coronation Street and Emmerdale did well but not spectacularly well. Their ratings rose to the level they were at fairly regularly in the overnights last year. That's certainly true of Coronation Street anyway.

Emmerdale should be most pleased as they were only slightly behind Corrie and had the bigger boost. I don't think EastEnders will see 7m until Christmas, and that's no certainty either as it isn't building to anything at the moment.

All in all a good week for the ITV soaps in terms of overnight ratings but not a spectacular one.”

I think you are been a bit harsh yes. Emmerdale has built it's audience throughout the week before ending on a ratings high last night (and look at the share too!!). I think if Corrie was in a stronger position then Emmerdale might have done even better.

With regards to EE. Last night it averaged just 5.7m. That's the same rating it averaged on Christmas Day last year - a poor number obviously. And EE has only had 9 episodes this year hit 7m or above in the overnights. Also EE didn't hit 7m once last December. I think the soaps struggle more and more to get the viewers in, but IMO, Emmerdale has done very well this week.
jlp95bwfc
22-10-2016
Originally Posted by dennisboy:
“As I said, I don't want to get too into it but it's unfair to compare Emmerdale getting 7m with TWO channels to help it than EastEnders just missing out with Peggy's death with one channel.”

Putting the word TWO in capitals doesn't make your point any more valid. +1 is perfectly valid to include seeing as the original broadcast rating includes non-live viewing up to 2am anyway.

Viewers factor in the option to view on +1 with ITV shows in the same way they factor in the lack of that option for BBC shows when planning their viewing.

There's perhaps a small extra "social media" boost gained on the +1 rating if something dramatic happens but I can't imagine Peggy's death would've gained from that (if BBC One +1 existed). It was well trailed and viewers knew she was dying in that episode. Anyone interested would've watched.
H of De Vil
22-10-2016
So for Emmerdale

Monday 6.2m
Tuesday 6.4m
Wednesday 6.5m
Thursday 6.6m & 6.8m
Friday 7.1m

I would say that is a pretty successful week. Rising each day, building to a strong final figure. It has proven itself worthy, as viewers came back from not to watching to tuning back in from word of mouth.

Those on here who's are a fan of Corrie, would a split episode like EE did on Xmas Day interest you? Could Corrie pull off a big episode at Christmas to re-juvenate the Christmas schedule a bit. Shake it up from its usual 1hr slot?
Aaron_2015
22-10-2016
Originally Posted by dennisboy:
“As I said, I don't want to get too into it but it's unfair to compare Emmerdale getting 7m with TWO channels to help it than EastEnders just missing out with Peggy's death with one channel.”

Sorry but +1 is included. That's the rating.
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