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Old 22-10-2016, 21:35
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Aand the Ratings Thread X Factor police have arrived.

Nobody cares what we think of X Factor each week.
Are they not entitled to their opinion?
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Old 22-10-2016, 21:37
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Aand the Ratings Thread X Factor police have arrived.

Nobody cares what we think of X Factor each week.
Well you let us know a dozen plus times every Sunday when the next underwhelming rating comes in. Had it been a positive comment you'd be lapping it up.
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Old 22-10-2016, 21:39
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Old 22-10-2016, 21:40
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Are they not entitled to their opinion?
Of course they are, but I don't know why everyone comes to the Ratings Thread to vent about it each week.
I know people post opinions about other shows too but nowhere near as much.
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Old 22-10-2016, 21:43
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Of course they are, but I don't know why everyone comes to the Ratings Thread to vent about it each week.
I know people post opinions about other shows too but nowhere near as much.
Well Dan, maybe, and I'm saying this nicely, don't respond to the negative posts. It drags the thread down to ridiculous levels and we continue to go on the merry go round yet again. Ok, it's discussion, but it's tiring to read.
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Old 22-10-2016, 21:50
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I'm really enjoying both X Factor and Strictly to be honest
I hope they both have good ratings tomorrow. SCD 10m and X Factor 6.5-7m
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Old 22-10-2016, 21:55
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Something I noticed earlier this evening, just looking for somthing to watch at 7pm, there is literally nothing. Or nothing of note. Its all pretty bland, even on the multichannels.

Its not suprising SCD does so well in its timeslot - its got nothing to challenge it. Just hoover up many floating viewers.

Rpt's on BBC2, rpt's on Ch4, Ch5, ITV2, ITV3 E4 etc. Even ITV's Meet The Parents is offputting for, clearly a large number of viewers. It might be doing well in the young demographic, but its not attracting a good range of viewers.

I'm so certain something like Ninja Warrior UK would do 1-1.5m better than the paltry rating last week for MTP. I suspect the latter will be under 2m tonight.
I'd still pick Strictly over Ninja Warrior, the same way people picked Strictly over Take Me Out. A few young people would watch and then the older viewers wouldn't. Ninja Warrior UK didn't do that well in a head to head with Pointless Celebrities either. Some shows you just choose to watch first like Britain's Got Talent or I'm A Celebrity which don't get challenged at all most years. I think ITV could do better opposite Strictly but Strictly would still be huge.
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Old 22-10-2016, 22:07
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*Negative post about Strictly claxon*

I thought it was poor show tonight. Two illnesses and weird marking, especially for Ore where the bias is clear. Not impressed.
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Old 22-10-2016, 22:11
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Something I noticed earlier this evening, just looking for somthing to watch at 7pm, there is literally nothing. Or nothing of note. Its all pretty bland, even on the multichannels.

Its not suprising SCD does so well in its timeslot - its got nothing to challenge it. Just hoover up many floating viewers.
But why would anybody, especially a commercial channel, put something decent up against a juggernaut? I very much doubt that advertisers are queuing up to be featured in this slot. You're saying this like Strictly hasn't been beating all comers for a decade.
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Old 22-10-2016, 22:13
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*Negative post about Strictly claxon*

I thought it was poor show tonight. Two illnesses and weird marking, especially for Ore where the bias is clear. Not impressed.
Bloody hell! Last week it was racist. This week its biassed in favour of Ore. Make yer minds up people!
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Old 22-10-2016, 22:20
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*Negative post about Strictly claxon*

I thought it was poor show tonight. Two illnesses and weird marking, especially for Ore where the bias is clear. Not impressed.
Well the illnesses cant be helped, plus Will Young ofcourse but I agree a bit about Ore. Good but not that good imo. They desperately need someone to look like they can challenge Danny Mac who for me (more than anyone else in the history of the show) is just a few training sessions away from a being a pro.

Wouldn't say it was poor though, still entertaining even if its not running entirely smooth this year.
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Old 22-10-2016, 22:21
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Are there any moderators on this forum? A handful of people totally ruin this thread and yet the old pros (they know who they are) keep on posting insightful, interesting, helpful things - they have the patience of saints.
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Old 22-10-2016, 22:23
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Are there any moderators on this forum? A handful of people totally ruin this thread and yet the old pros (they know who they are) keep on posting insightful, interesting, helpful things - they have the patience of saints.
Nobody has broken any rules, just because you don't like certain discussions doesn't mean they're disallowed.
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Old 22-10-2016, 22:29
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Nobody has broken any rules, just because you don't like certain discussions doesn't mean they're disallowed.
Good comment. Now how about taking your own advice.
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Old 22-10-2016, 22:46
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But why would anybody, especially a commercial channel, put something decent up against a juggernaut? I very much doubt that advertisers are queuing up to be featured in this slot. You're saying this like Strictly hasn't been beating all comers for a decade.
I'm not saying anything ITV put up against SCD will beat it, but something tha will do more than 2m.

ITV used to get 5m+ against SCD with TV Burp. We know NWUK can do 4-5m on a good day, and has a loyal 3-4m audience. Even getting 3.5m against SCD would match what the Lottery is getting against TXF with less competition.

TXF is becoming weaker, and so is the schedule around TXF. Eventually something drastic needs to happen.
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Old 22-10-2016, 22:47
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Something I noticed earlier this evening, just looking for somthing to watch at 7pm, there is literally nothing. Or nothing of note. Its all pretty bland, even on the multichannels.

Its not suprising SCD does so well in its timeslot - its got nothing to challenge it. Just hoover up many floating viewers.

Rpt's oyn BBC2, rpt's on Ch4, Ch5, ITV2, ITV3 E4 etc. Even ITV's Meet The Parents is offputting for, clearly a large number of viewers. It might be doing well in the young demographic, but its not attracting a good range of viewers.

I'm so certain something like Ninja Warrior UK would do 1-1.5m better than the paltry rating last week for MTP. I suspect the latter will be under 2m tonight.
A default audience does often exist on BBC One in certain circumstances, but I doubt it does for Strictly. People aren't going to watch week in week out just because Ninja Warrior isn't on.

I also disagree with your suggestion that people are only watching Holby City by default as well. That's been on every week for years, whereas people may default to some cheap factual about supermarkets I doubt they will watch an ongoing drama every week.
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Old 22-10-2016, 22:48
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Nobody has broken any rules, just because you don't like certain discussions doesn't mean they're disallowed.
Certain people are irrational beyond belief, trotting out the same old crap like they own a bloody programme themselves.
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Old 22-10-2016, 23:10
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I hope "Who Dares Wins" rates better than "5 Star Family Reunion". It is a far better Quiz show.
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Old 22-10-2016, 23:11
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A default audience does often exist on BBC One in certain circumstances, but I doubt it does for Strictly. People aren't going to watch week in week out just because Ninja Warrior isn't on.

I also disagree with your suggestion that people are only watching Holby City by default as well. That's been on every week for years, whereas people may default to some cheap factual about supermarkets I doubt they will watch an ongoing drama every week.
So do you think ITV will be content with Meet The Parents hovering just over 2m?

The Chase manages 3.1m against SCD on Sunday. So why should Meet The Parents be pulling in 2m?

There are more viewers around that those who just watch SCD. SCD attract 40-50% of viewers. That is still 50% audience available.

I refuse to accept ITV should be settling for 2m viewers against SCD. No matter how many times you tell me ITV are doing the best they can.
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Old 23-10-2016, 00:36
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Well the illnesses cant be helped, plus Will Young ofcourse but I agree a bit about Ore. Good but not that good imo. They desperately need someone to look like they can challenge Danny Mac who for me (more than anyone else in the history of the show) is just a few training sessions away from a being a pro.

Wouldn't say it was poor though, still entertaining even if its not running entirely smooth this year.
Danny Mac is apparently very well trained from his time in performance school. You could argue it makes the show a sham but it's just celebrities dancing so hardly matters.

So do you think ITV will be content with Meet The Parents hovering just over 2m?

The Chase manages 3.1m against SCD on Sunday. So why should Meet The Parents be pulling in 2m?

There are more viewers around that those who just watch SCD. SCD attract 40-50% of viewers. That is still 50% audience available.

I refuse to accept ITV should be settling for 2m viewers against SCD. No matter how many times you tell me ITV are doing the best they can.
Or they could stick with MTP and see if it can grow. How can it be compared to the Chase when that show is an established show with a baked in audience?

I've just watched MTP and it was shockingly good, far more enjoyable than Strictly. If they put Ninja against Strictly it would get crushed.

TV Burp had one good year in 2009 when Strictly was struggling but SCD was revamped and beat up Burp in 10. At times tonight SCD was cringeworthy awful with its jokes but it is a pair of slippers to millions now.

Since ITV stick all of its adverts on XF it's not worth guillotining shows like Ninja.

I'd like to see them swap MTP with Tipping Point since one show is safe from the axe but MTP is much better counter programming to SCD and clearly is pulling in the younger demographic. Since it's the same demographic that XF want, that makes sense.
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Old 23-10-2016, 09:27
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My usually rubbish predictions:
Strictly - 9.9m
X Factor - 6.1m

Everything else on ITV - below 2m (think I'll get that right)
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Old 23-10-2016, 09:36
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From rzt:

Strictly Come Dancing - 10.07m (46.6%)
* peak - 10.81m (48.5%) at 19:55

Inc +1
Tipping Point - 2.19m (12.0%)
Meet The Parents - 1.92m (8.9%)
The X Factor - 5.94m (28.9%)
* peak - 6.88m (33.4%) at 21:00
Jonathan Ross Show - 3.18m (19.9%)
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Old 23-10-2016, 09:40
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Great for strictly, Jonathan Ross seems to be getting a boost from being on after X factor
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Old 23-10-2016, 09:42
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Brilliant for Strictly, underwhelming for X Factor, good for Jonathon Ross though.
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Old 23-10-2016, 09:42
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From rzt (updating):

Strictly Come Dancing - 10.07m (46.6%)
* peak - 10.81m (48.5%) at 19:55
Strong average but unspectacular peak. When BGT gets 10.1m it's peaking with 11.3, 4, 5. The time also shows XF gave it a leg-up.
Not ideal for XF but higher than The Voice's 4m, so up 50% on that. Up week on week too.
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