Well Pointless is his biggest show and that's on the BBC.
Look, I just don't like how he makes out to be some kind of special ratings guru, and his whole 'look at me I'm so smart' image.


A higher peak demonstrates that a show has broad appeal. There should be moments which get people tuning in alongside the core fanbase - "hey Dave, are you seeing this crazy sword swallower right now?" may be texted, or people might see tweets about a moment in their timeline so tune in to catch what's left of it.
A show can have a massive core fanbase of 10m+ but it should also have the power to draw casual viewers in too. An unspectacular peak suggests a show isn't doing it that well.

[quote=LHolmes;84323257]Holly can barely read from an autocue. She was passable enough on kids TV/MoM and is OK on Celebrity Juice but straight presenting she can't do. She is crap on This Morning, PTW, SS, and this.

For how many years did Pointless beat The Chase? Everything peaks. Is The Chase ahead exc +1?

It’s not even a direct head to head given TC has a 15 min headstart.

It was 7m a few weeks ago?

Bar occasional flashes of brilliance, Corrie has been on a downward trajectory (in quality) since 2006. I know some don't like to admit it but the difference from that point onwards is there to see.

I know Collinson was praised but his sensationalism only papered over the cracks. The show was lucky to avoid any steep quality-related decline in ratings for so long. EastEnders always seemed more susceptible to losing viewers when off the boil. But SB was one crap producer too many for even Corrie. It won't be turned around overnight and it is hard to get the viewers back as EE found out.[/QUOTE]


Collinson was a great producer. His first episodes were around the time of Lewis Archer and the conclusion with Diedre getting a pie in the face. I remember those months leading up to the Tram Crash were excellent. Corrie a its very best. 2011 was also a great year, and the quality was showing because viewers chose to stay with Corrie longer than most soaps achieve after big weeks. Christmas was over 10.5m consolidated. I remember a couple of weeks into January the funeral on Molly on a Friday has both eps over 11m.

Collinson had a few duds (what producer doesn't), but he re-juvenated Corrie so much so it was pulling almost 2m+ viewers away from EE. It was reguarly getting 38%-45% shares.

It started to go downhill at the end of his tenure, after the Rovers Fire. Hayley's exit in 2014 was the only shining light - though the actual episodes of her death were ruined by Carla and Anna barging into Roy's room as she died. At that point it was fully into Blackburn's tenure, and from then on it went severly down hill.

But Collinson far, far from a poor producer. He breathed new life into the soap after Crowther.

Richard Osman is just a big head, simple as.

and they way he sits at the end of the set with his stupid laptop making pointless comments is just so sad. Sorry.

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I didn't say Collinson was poor. In a roundabout way I sort of praised him by saying he managed to mask Corrie's problems. As Corrie is so set in its ways and a new boss probably isn't allowed to make the radical changes it truly needs, then 'hiding the issues' is probably the best we can hope for and he ticked that box.

As for duds, yes he had some big ones: Graeme/Xin, Betty's exit, Sunita/Karl, forcing Stella down viewers throats. The show was criticised a lot in 2011. I remember Collinson going on BBC Breakfast and This Morning to defend it but that only drew more attention to the supposed problems.

This is the most ludicrous comment I've ever read in Digital Spy history

Another comment which makes you look odd

Agreed, I don't understand how a television rating can make your mouth water.

I assume this week the complaints will be about the Strictly voters being ageist

Here are some old ratings from Friday 23rd October 2009. Look at the soaps! A period when Coronation Street and EastEnders used to be very close.

Friday 23rd October 2009:
1...EastEnders (20:00) - 9.38m (40.7%)
2...Coronation Street (20:30) - 9.34m (39.2%)
3...Coronation Street (19:30) - 8.50m (38.4%)
4...Emmerdale (19:00) - 6.66m (32.8%)
5...Benidorm (21:00) - 6.05m (25.6%)
6...Have I Got News For You (21:00) - 5.16m (21.7%)
7...BBC Regional News (18:30) - 5.15m (26.4%)
8...The One Show (19:00) - 4.51m (21.2%)
9...BBC Regional News (22:25) - 4.40m (23.5%)
10...BBC News At Ten (22:00) - 4.26m (21.0%)
11...BBC News At Six (18:00) - 4.31m (23.9%)
12...The Armstrong And Miller Show (21:30) - 4.13m (17.7%)
13...A Question Of Sport (20:30) - 3.83m (16.0%)
14...ITV Evening News (18:30) - 3.68m (18.8%)
15...Friday Night With Jonathan Ross (22:35) - 3.52m (25.1%)

I haven't got the numbers in front of me but yes whenever I've seen them Emmerdale does skew older though not by a huge amount.

I genuinely assumed it was Coronation Street that was the most popular soap with older viewers

In volume terms it probably is but it also has a broader audience so the over 55s end up being a smaller proportion of the overall.

Emmerdale is usually slightly older than the ITV average, Coronation Street slightly younger.

By pure coincidence the 'random' X Factor Jukebox landed on what for Halloween...

Fright Night!

How lucky was that!

And this has to do with ratings, what exactly...?

Funny that.

Musical guests seem a bit better again this year (after it became a talking point last year that they weren't very good). Shawn Mendes and John Legend were both decent, current bookings and Bruno Mars next week is a pretty big name.

Seriously? IT'S A MIRACLE!

That is such a coincidence

Taking the absolute piss out of viewers now 😂

Dan you are honestly hilarious.

With Halloween not falling on the weekend should we expect Strictly and X Factor to hold up well next weekend?

To be fair the jukebox is only meant as a light bit of fun at the end of the show to tease the following week and to end the show on an upbeat note after the elimination. I don't think it's meant to be taken particularly seriously, they were all having a laugh about it on ITV2 just now.

Trust a little 3-minute segment at the end of a programme to get more users onto this thread than most ratings do. Simon should feel complimented!

As Dermot said, all bona fide

Just making themselves a laughing stock or want everyone to laugh at them.
Probably the latter.

Creditability, which effects the brand, which in turn (ultimately) effects ratings....

Depends how much football fans want to avoid divorce, Shirley!