I suspect the live shows will hit 6m, unlike X Factor.

Depends on what is considered a flop. It probably needs 4m overnight and 6m consolidated to be a success. I'm sure before it launches people will suddenly demand 8m audiences but C4 never get that and GBBO didn't on BBC2.
Can it do Big Brother numbers? I expect it will IF they get the right host or hosts. People on here talk of it getting 2m which certainly would be bad.

Top Gear lost half its viewers which equates to 5m overnights for GBBO. I asked my mother in-law if she watched it and she said she 'had it in the background' but they'd lost interest due to Mel and Sue. She wanted to see it on the BBC again and thought Mary would be the only loss.
However, she would watch on 4 if they got people like Delia or Nigella or Ainsley in. That stunned me as they only watches one of 3 channels and mostly watches BBC 1.

As we've said about itv shows - the host and talent will be really important.

On that evidence maybe Bake Off hurt the Manchester derby!

Quite low really, especially as the programme started half an hour later and was 15 minutes shorter than Liverpool v Spurs the night before (which did 1.1m).

They only managed 4.5 this year (didn't even hit 5 once!) so that's a very daring prediction!

The league cup getting twice as many viewers as the UCL. Sky must be relieved.

Spot on. The Voice should be targeting the SCD demographic and have lots of good singers singing songs that Radio 1 don't play. It should be searching for Rebecca Ferguson and Leona rather than an all-rounder.


It isn't up against Ant and Dec. 5m seems realistic depending on competition.

LFC v MU got 1.9m and that was a huge rating. 1.3m for a league cup match is big - especially considering the decline of ManU.

Thanks Score.

The Chase and Tipping Point absolutely smashing it. Both matching their celeb counter parts. But also impressive that its outrating its ad free counterpart.

I think viewers are so set in their ways of watching these quiz shows at 5pm, it would be in ITV and the audience best interest to keep The Chase and Tipping Point in these sots all year round.Instead just use the 3pm slot to test new quizzes and shows.

I think it would be worth ITV commissioning a series of The Chase Christmas specials to air over Christmas week to give their night some support on nights they are weaker.

Wow! What a number. I was hoping for 14.0m and it got it bang on the nose. What a huge year it's had. It seemed hard to imagine this time around topping the 2015 series but it's done it. This years series averaged 10.74m in the overnights compared to 9.91m for last years run.

Sadly with the shocking dismantling of the biggest show on TV, those numbers will never be reached ever again and I can see Channel really messing it up.


Yikes! That's a shame for The Missing. Not seen last night's episode yet - but after that lead-out of 14.0m, it's sad to see it now capitalise on that at all.


Well, that right there tells you everything you need to know at the sad state of Corrie at the moment. That's hugely close and Emmerdale ahead in share too. After getting that decent rating of 7.5m on Monday, they've really dropped the ball on Corrie once again. It's looking like there's no saving Corrie right now.

Roscoe what do you think of Corrie right now?

To me it still seems poor, still full of unlikeable deadwood characters I do not care for. Thus it makes it difficult to watch and enjoy.

Last weeks Monday episodes were the best in ages because is focussed on The Barlows and The Platts.

I know its early in Kate Oates reign, but under Collinson we saw a massive change and Corrie became unmissable.

The BBC had to 'force' the nation to 'fall' for The Voice. It wasn't a natural hit like Strictly and Bake Off. The Voice with ads and new judges...coming so soon after The Ex Factor...it will probably get about 5 million.

Coronation Street is very weak for me personally. It is supposed to be riding high from last week's ratings but can only muster a few hundred thousand more viewers than EastEnders which didn't have any highly promoted week last week. Emmerdale is the #1 ITV soap these days.

Extremely disappointing for Corrie, I kind of want Emmerdale to overtake them because it deserves it and it would be a wake-up call. The standard at the moment at the moment is appalling sadly.

I went to see the Blind Auditions and think it will surprise people- The judges work well, Tom and Will seem in particular happier and freer to critique accordingly and the new twist whilst harsh on the contestants worked well in practice that you didn't get meaningless platitudes. The whole thing felt a lot slicker too, but whether that will come across in production who knows?

I'm pretty sure you've made this same point non-stop since Monday.

I think The Voice, ( depending on its slot) will do better than Ex Factor. TVUK is a more honest show, pure voice at the start , less about the judges, more about the talent.

TVUK never felt bloated, or too scripted, whereas Ex Factor has become a Caricature of itself as a scripted pantomime. The current fix allegations on contestants and fright night, with allegations of drunk judges and the lack of credibility putting through stupid acts against some with potential has damaged the Ex Factors reputation.

With the Voice if they try to keep in the same it will have a good following. It's not like GBBO it is transferable. It is commercial. They could ruin it, if they add XF style focus on the judges, or try to put it against Gary Barlow new show.

I think TVUK will beat XF in the ratings, if they do not do anything stupid, and be up at 7/8 million.

GBBO on 4 will die, when it does have a full series it will be circa 4 million good for 4, but lost ten million viewers, depending on the talent line up with Paul, rstings may fall quickly.

To be honest, Sky 1 probably deserves this for waiting 5 weeks to air the episode after America, though the show premiered on demand the day before broadcast, so...

I'd be surprised if The Voice doesn't surpass XF in ratings. Depends on like you say how ITV handle it. They should not change it too much, but freshen it up the ITV way to make it more of an event show, but they need to stay away from the XF styling.

After the initial launch, I think it'll get 3 to 4 million viewers, and level around the lower end. If Grand Designs can average 2.6M viewers, I don't think GBBO is going to struggle.

Yes, stay away from the styling of a show that rated far better than it this year. Good idea.
You think a show which lost 23% of its audience in one year shouldn't be changed too much?

Dan - the X Factor has a toxic, corrupt image mainly for its fakery.

The Voice need to avoid that at all costs.

It's not the best is it.

Just when it appears to be showing some form of promise they instantly lose any form of momentum and ratings go down to low levels (by Corrie standards). It hard to think that just a few years ago (2013 to be precise), at this time of year, it was rating between 8-9m a night. Now it's down to 6m. It's sad how it's lost so many viewers and I do agree that under Blackburn it was mostly terrible. Kate Oates needs time to try and turn it around but with so many characters the viewers don't care about this will be a very tricky task. It's hard to imagine it ever getting back to normal as to do this will require drastic action, character and writing wise.

I'm just trying to give the show the best chance to succeed on ITV. You think The Voice viewers are going to want it to turn into an XF clone?

Plus, youre right. I wonder what percentage of audience has dropped off XF since 2010? Never mind.

Well moving away from the more successful show is hardly a winning strategy is it?
And a decline over six years is totally different to losing almost a quarter of viewers in one year.

So why are ITV even bothering then?

Trust me, I can't see why ITV wanted it anyway.