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Perhaps ITV would be better in not trying to reinvent the dating show. Just bring back Blind Date and have Paul O'Grady as the host.
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BIB...is this not mildly offensive? You imply that it is only oldies pushing zimmers who watch BBC One. I am no where near that age. I value and appreciate the quality and higher standards provided by the Beeb. ITV could (and should) learn an awful lot from the BBC. Poaching BBC talent is not enough. It's about the tone, the content and the credibility of that content.
On the adverts, ITV knew what it was entering into back in the day when it chose to base it's model on advertising. They didn't have to go with ads did they. The Apprentice has loads more credibility than The Ex-Factor. I give you the 'judging panel' for a start. At least you have people on 'the panel' from the world of business passing judgement on others attempting to enter into that field. As for the last paragraph - I'm pretty sure Cowell and co are from the world of music. One of them does alright at business too going by his £500m estimated fortune. |
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This thread is still filled with comedy gold, 10 years after folk started posting the ratings from Outpost Gallifrey
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Excuse me?!?! Old people!?!? I am a young person and I am a hardcore BBC loyalist. I have no time for ITV or their low brow content. The non-credible Ex-Factor for me? Seriously? Not a chance.
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Nah thanks, I tune in to what's entertaining, not just what's considered 'upmarket' or 'educational' or whatever else. Just because people on BBC music shows have spent 10 years studying in some elite music college & can now play Beethoven fluently doesn't mean I'll enjoy the programme or their performance.
I'm pleased you left The Voice off the "flocking to it in their millions" list. And not sure why you've put Gary's show on there when it hasn't even aired yet (I will give it a try, I like Gary). Also, you're suggesting that viewers don't flock to entertainment shows on other channels in their millions? BGT wants a word! I've seen your other posts around the forum, you really are way too passionate about the BBC. There are so many things to be worried about in life and the BBC is not one of them.
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Good. I watched this for the first time last year and found it a load of fun.
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Excuse me?!?! Old people!?!? I am a young person and I am a hardcore BBC loyalist. I have no time for ITV or their low brow content. The non-credible Ex-Factor for me? Seriously? Not a chance.
It's fine to brand ITV 'low brow', but it makes you look extremely ignorant. ITV produces a number of high quality shows (and some crap). You can't just dismiss a whole channel because you think you're above watching it. You are probably one of those people who think they are in a higher social class than they really are... |
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Britain's Most Watched Shows revealed, based on single showing only.
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http://news.sky.com/story/britains-m...ealed-10639498 |
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Britain's Most Watched Shows revealed, based on single showing only.
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http://news.sky.com/story/britains-m...ealed-10639498 |
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The official rating for the 1977 Morecambe and Wise Christmas show was 28,835,000 so I don't know where these figures are from.
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The official rating for the 1977 Morecambe and Wise Christmas show was 28,835,000 so I don't know where these figures are from.
I bet Steve Williams can do a better answer than this! Anyway this ratings system showed that Mike Yarwood had the highest rated programme on Christmas Day 1977 and NOT Morecambe and Wise. |
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Wow the preaching at other posters is probably more prevalent than ratings talk in here now, just amazing.
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The 28m figure for Morecambe and Wise for Christmas Day 1977 was based on BBC figures. When the BFI looked at ratings for that period again they used ratings from the more accurate JICTAR system which ITV used. It had meters in the home connected to TV sets which measured viewing. The BBC at the time had a random sample of people that they interviewed and asked what they watched.
I bet Steve Williams can do a better answer than this! Anyway this ratings system showed that Mike Yarwood had the highest rated programme on Christmas Day 1977 and NOT Morecambe and Wise. Top 20 w/e 25 December 1977 No shows from the 1960s in that most watched list? |
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Absolutely. I loved the ALW shows. Looking forward to Gary's show in January. Why? Because he is a credible musician/composer/singer.
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That is spot on! I also think it's because JICTAR ratings like these are widely available than the BBC'sA own version. Here's the top 20 for that week.
Top 20 w/e 25 December 1977 No shows from the 1960s in that most watched list? I'd say the most watched shows list is incomplete without the opening and closing ceremonies of London 2012 and Torville & Dean's Winter Olympics performance from 1999. All around 24m. |
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This thread is still filled with comedy gold, 10 years after folk started posting the ratings from Outpost Gallifrey
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I bet Steve Williams can do a better answer than this!
Anyway this ratings system showed that Mike Yarwood had the highest rated programme on Christmas Day 1977 and NOT Morecambe and Wise. Anyway, it seems pretty obvious why Yarwood would get 100,000 more viewers than Morecambe and Wise - 100,000 kids were probably sent to bed at 9pm. Quote:
No shows from the 1960s in that most watched list?
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I'd say the most watched shows list is incomplete without the opening and closing ceremonies of London 2012 and Torville & Dean's Winter Olympics performance from 1999. All around 24m.
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BIB...is this not mildly offensive? You imply that it is only oldies pushing zimmers who watch BBC One. I am no where near that age. I value and appreciate the quality and higher standards provided by the Beeb. ITV could (and should) learn an awful lot from the BBC. Poaching BBC talent is not enough. It's about the tone, the content and the credibility of that content.
On the adverts, ITV knew what it was entering into back in the day when it chose to base it's model on advertising. They didn't have to go with ads did they. The Apprentice has loads more credibility than The Ex-Factor. I give you the 'judging panel' for a start. At least you have people on 'the panel' from the world of business passing judgement on others attempting to enter into that field. I love The Apprentice but if you want a credible candidate you'd be looking at their CV and business plan first rather than have them make them sell sweets. |
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There are two in there!
These lists always are always polarising. I remember I did a version of this list when we got the officials for the 2012 Opening Ceremony and the vitriol it caused when it didn't include EastEnders! |
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Well, I can't really give a better answer, but it is the case that every single reliable source now has Morecambe and Wise's figure as 21.3 million viewers, based as you say on the official ratings. That is recognised by BARB, the BFI and all other sources. The 28 million figure has been bandied around but I've never seen any official confirmation of it.
Anyway, it seems pretty obvious why Yarwood would get 100,000 more viewers than Morecambe and Wise - 100,000 kids were probably sent to bed at 9pm. Quote:
Those are events that would have taken place regardless of TV cameras being present, like news events, and so technically are not "TV shows".
Of course! That makes sense.
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Silly me, didn't read it properly. Too early in the morning.
These lists always are always polarising. I remember I did a version of this list when we got the officials for the 2012 Opening Ceremony and the vitriol it caused when it didn't include EastEnders! |
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ITV always took issue with the 30m rating for EastEnders in 1986 because it was the original broadcast added to the omnibus rating. I'm not sure Christmas Day EastEnders managed 20m on the day. Just Good Friends was higher.
My university has access to the Daily Mail archive and I've found this article re M&W 28m from 30 December 1977. So even 5 days after Christmas that figure was being talked about. http://i.imgur.com/gBFdDPV.jpg |
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No mention of the 30 million who watched the 1966 World Cup Final on BBC1 ?
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Strictly 65 million
X Factor 10k Xtra Factor - |
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19.5m wasn't it?
My university has access to the Daily Mail archive and I've found this article re M&W 28m from 30 December 1977. So even 5 days after Christmas that figure was being talked about. http://i.imgur.com/gBFdDPV.jpg Very interesting stuff. Never seen those ratings in print before. Those were the BBC figures that turned up on TV programmes for decades afterwards. A documentary on Christmas TV narrated by Ricky Gervais was the first time I heard 25m and 26m for The Get Game and Yarwood respectively on Christmas Day 1977. Months later Morecambe and Wise and Brucie signed for ITV. |
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