You're either purposely misunderstanding how websites work or you're somewhat hard of thinking. I'm not sure which.

A few mardy people tweeting they don't like who was sent home doesn't constitute a fix. If it did, Strictly would be fixed too. Websites run the story because it is click-bait and the XF is still the best click-bait because it draws younger viewers. Capiche?

TBF to you, at least you're not biased to the BBC since you also praised ITV's Poldark.

I agree with you

I'd put an asterisk against any rating at Xmas. They deserve their own category really as ratings tended to be huge, especially on BBC1.

I don't know if it was the most watched scripted programme or not but for me nothing compares to Who Shot JR and nothing ever will. We watched the whole of Dallas of CBS Drama recently and those early seasons are still stunning and better than any drama around today. Binge TV perfected before it existed.

I agree, I don't think you can call Tut a disaster.

Great for Strictly last night and nice to see Poldark rise.

Dreadful for X Factor, not even over 6m without +1.

ITV don't care about consolidated figures as much as ratings enthusiasts do.

Low 3's for a big budget ITV drama in the Sunday 9pm slot in the overnights at this time of year is 100% a disaster in my book. What they needed post Downton was solid dependables but they are a long long way from that with Tut.

Not to mention the fact it was widely panned as well which hurts them a little reputation wise in the short term.

Apart from all that, I'm sure they are absolutely over the moon with how it's gone.

I'm sure ITV would have preferred to keep rolling out Downtown every year, with each series continuing to fall in popularity, and basically drag it out to it's death. Because it's basically what they are doing with XF right?

History tells us with American Idol, that these shows always reach their peak then it's a slow painful death, and people even get sick of Simon eventuslly, or at least the novelty wears off.

I know XF is churning a profit still, but they are in the long term damagaing BGT in the process - a show that keeps ITV's summers from drowning.

You're right. After all, It's only 4.5m down on Downton Abbey in that slot last year. One wonders how much ground ITV needed to lose there for it to be considered a bit of a problem by the majority in the Ratings Thread.

Of course you can't replace a show like Downton, and it was always going to be a difficult year to some extent, but they could and should be doing an awful lot better than they have with Tut. An important slot has been wasted on absolute rubbish that isn't getting watched by a sufficient number of viewers on the most relevant measure of audience to ITV, so in what way could it be considered a success?

It's even more paramount with X Factor's decline showing no signs of stopping that ITV get back to basics on Sunday nights with the sort of dramas they used to dominate the night with. Lygo talks a good game, now let's see if he can deliver in the coming months and get them back to where they need to be.

Hilda Ogdens final episode rating also includes a omnibus you know

I think it'll be around for 5 seasons, and then the same team will move onto another series.

I didn't say it was a success, I think it's disappointing. But it's not a disaster. A disaster is 800k on a Tuesday night.

Of course they should be doing better on a Sunday night but I think the fact that they have a returnable series in Victoria which was a success means their Sundays have been better this autumn than what was feared after Downton.

No, ITV does care about consolidated because it goes to the success of the show. This all helps for sponsorship, product placement and international sales.

International sales was clearly a huge driver for it.

Yarwood definitely deserves respect for his TV achievements. His ratings were at the level of Morecambe and Wise, The Two Ronnies, Stanley Baxter and often could be higher. A shame his shows won't be seen apart from in clip shows. The rise of alternative comedy with satire in impressions hurt him as he didn't want to do that. Then there was his alcoholism too.

Stanley Baxter's shows at that time were very expensive and John Birt coming into LWT put a stop to that. So Stanley returned to the BBC and was axed again due to budgets....shortly after John Birt became Director General! Unlucky son!

Eric & Ernie were the golden boys but Cotton had a lot of time for his light entertainment stars that delivered like Bruce on The Gen Game, Yarwood and The Two Ronnies. Eric & Ernie had a few pre-recorded sketches during some of their shows as well as Yarwood. Yarwood did more recorded segments at Thames and he said he hated it as he couldn't interact with an audience. Cost wasn't the reason Mike Yarwood left the BBC for Thames, it was more money.

Tomorrow's Radio Times giving away free Netflix subscriptions to ALL readers (includes Netflix members)

My Mother and Other Strangers confirmed for Sundays at 9pm starting on November 13

BBC Schedules now being confirmed early in the run up to Christmas

Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised to see it on Netflix soon. Apparently 'Paranoid' is a Netflix co-production, so ITV and Netflix have been working together.

Not great for Humans but it's too early to call series 2 a flop. The marketing they did last year for it was genius and lead to a huge amount of curiosity from viewers. It seemed to settle at 2-3m overnight for the later episodes didn't it? Drama always timeshifts loads anyway, let's see where it ends up there. And starting late may have dented it, who knows.


That's an inaccuracy. When shows are adding 25, 30, 40, 50%+ through timeshift, of course they care.


So that's over 2 million on timeshift, a 39% increase on the 5.3m overnight. Phenomenal.


None of the other talent shows seem to timeshift anywhere near BGT's level. The variety behemoth was adding 28% to its overnight in certain cases, SCD is adding 11% for its performance show and XF 19/20%. Tbf the results are never going to add much so that's fine.

XF should definitely be doing better. The least it should be doing is mid/high 7s, just scraping 7 consolidated isn't good enough at all. Still higher than The Voice though, the final of which only just scraped 5m consolidated!


It's been that way for much of the series, no need for the OTT response.


Not great but not entirely surprising. The results shows are pretty farcical nowadays, and feel pointless. I had lots to be done last night home and job-wise so prioritised that over watching Louisa Johnson make her not-so-big comeback. I caught up on everything from the show in two minutes online.

The Saturday shows are still worth watching, particularly after 3+ glasses of wine when in a happy place. But I often think back to 2014 and how much more spectacularly-produced the live shows were. It felt like a proper & exciting show, not drunken entertainment like it is now.
What a difference two years makes.

Emmerdale 8m for that Friday of their big week. Only 700k from Corrie's highest rating ep that week. And 700k above EE.

"ITV don't care as much..."
"That's an inaccuracy...of course they care."

*sighs*

Has someone hacked Dan R's account?

I agree with what you have said.

5m for the penultimate ep of POG Dogs. Excellent stuff.

Pretty vague as to what the offer actually is though which suggests it may not be as good as it might sound.

Not that I would buy it even if it was a free month.

5 should show more comedy specials or stand up. I'm surprised they've not approached Russell Howard as he's already doing shows for Comedy Central.

Do they have multiple subscription tiers now do they?

Neither would I really, but I'd bet there would be more I'd like to watch than what the beeb offers me.

Fantastic rating. It's sort of one those shows that you would expect from BBC1. Easy going, laid back and feel good.

Just seen the website which says it is a free month