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Old 01-11-2016, 12:27
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I think EE was lower as Haloween was last night so lots of younger viewers would have been out so I think that's the case. I expect tonight to be higher.
*yawn*

Yeah because loads of 10-12year old kids watch eastenders
What a terrible episode too..
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Old 01-11-2016, 12:30
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I will be very surprised if there is not a rise in viewers tonight.
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Old 01-11-2016, 12:31
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*yawn*

Yeah because loads of 10-12year old kids watch eastenders
What a terrible episode too..
Not only kids trick or treating. People out for a night out like students etc.
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Old 01-11-2016, 12:33
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Not only kids trick or treating. People out for a night out like students etc.
Thing is, most halloween parties and people going out happened over the weekend, well at least up here.
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Old 01-11-2016, 12:34
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I'm actually surprised by how high ratings for Corrie are as it's terrible at the moment.
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Old 01-11-2016, 12:44
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Michael McIntyre’s Big Show begins a new 6 part series on Saturday 19 November time to be confirmed
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Old 01-11-2016, 12:58
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I'm actually surprised by how high ratings for Corrie are as it's terrible at the moment.
Well it's obviously all the housewives are tuning in for Shayne Ward, no matter how bad his acting is.
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Old 01-11-2016, 13:00
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I rather suspect that so much time has passed that they will never see the light of day here. But ITV clearly had the money to bin product they'd paid for then - I'm not sure that's the case now …
It used to be the case that the cost of a drama didn't appear in their accounts and therefore didn't have to be paid in full until it was broadcast, so it actually got to the stage where it was sometimes cheaper to not broadcast a programme (an accounting quirk a bit like how it's cheaper for train companies to run one train a week with no passengers rather than close down the service completely). Although in those days too they commissioned so much drama they could fill a schedule without having to show it all.

They'll never be shown on the main channel but ITV Encore or ITV3 would be good.
I just read about Thursday 12th and it starred Elizabeth Mcgovern and Hugh Bonneville who went on to play Robert and Cora Crawley in Downton Abbey.
Whatever the point of ITV Encore is, it's certainly not to show dramas that are now over a decade old that were too bad to broadcast. As mentioned, Thursday 12th got as far as being billed in the Radio Times, where I remember the preview said that it had been on the shelf for about two years, and that it was also the worst drama they had ever seen.

Why was it upped?
Not sure of the reason, but Ofcom asked them to up their peak news from 100hrs to 120hrs a year and Viacom agreed, with their all hours quota rising from 240hrs to 260hrs.
Though of course Viacom were already exceeding the quota (by some distance, I think) before it was increased - and I think Viacom themselves wanted to get that enshrined in legislation to emphasise how much they were now doing, and to get a few brownie points from Ofcom.

Not if I'm already paying for Netflix...

Seems to be more desperate on the side of Radio Times to be honest.
This is not aimed at you personally, but this thread seems to be obsessed with the Radio Times. You do know it's not the eighties anymore and you don't have to buy it if you don't like it?
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Old 01-11-2016, 13:24
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I'm amazed anyone buys tv listings magazines but then I say that as someone from a household that only got the RT and TV Times at Xmas in the 80s.
I bet many still think the Radio Times is a BBC magazine.

Corrie is actually doing well with nearly 7m overnights and pushing 9m for the odd episode after 7 days. I'm surprised how well it is consolidating. EE I'm sure will top 6m tonight. I do wonder if even the soaps take a hit from IAC because people make IAC their daily habit and don't feel the need to download a missed soap episode.

So Dark Angel did come in at 4.9m then. In which case, my lotto numbers are...

4 9 25 36 44 49 Bonus 13.

So long since I played the non Euromillions game that I've forgotten the rules but I think that's right.
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Old 01-11-2016, 13:25
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I've only just noticed Stoke v Swansea did not make the multichannel top 10, so had less than 412,000.

Four hour programme though. I guess the match average *might* have been respectable.
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Old 01-11-2016, 13:27
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Whatever the point of ITV Encore is, it's certainly not to show dramas that are now over a decade old that were too bad to broadcast. As mentioned, Thursday 12th got as far as being billed in the Radio Times, where I remember the preview said that it had been on the shelf for about two years, and that it was also the worst drama they had ever seen.


But something different is better than constant repeats of Upstairs Downstairs and Always and Everyone even though those series are good to.
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Old 01-11-2016, 13:29
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I'm amazed anyone buys tv listings magazines but then I say that as someone from a household that only got the RT and TV Times at Xmas in the 80s.
I bet many still think the Radio Times is a BBC magazine.
Well you wouldn't know it wasn't a BBC magazine going by the content which is still incredibly pro-BBC.

I buy a TV mag once a year at Christmas - and it has to be TV and Satellite Week, which for me is the best out there right now in terms of layout and feature wise the most accurate reflection of the TV worth watching.
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Old 01-11-2016, 13:43
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I think EE was lower as Haloween was last night so lots of younger viewers would have been out so I think that's the case. I expect tonight to be higher.
lol . That excuse is almost as bad as one I read on here a few years ago when someone suggested EE's ratings were low because people were out barbecuing
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Old 01-11-2016, 13:56
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Rather surprised about the reports over the BBC and A Question of Sport. Putting it out to tender and asking for major changes in the options including format and presenter and team captains.

This is the longest running quiz show on TV (on continuously for 50 years in the next year or so). It has always been a steady performer. And I suspect the audience knowing what they are getting is part of the reason.

The BBC seem to be making some very strange decisions recently that seem to be moving away from old, traditional viewing ideas and towards edginess and controversy.

Losing Bake Off is only the top of it when you bear in mind things like the decision not to do more Goodnight Sweetheart, despite it being the overwhelmingly requested returnee in polls carried out post the recent sitcom series. Their reason being to give the few slots to something new and modern it was hinted. And this was an old traditional sitcom that was probably why such a high percentage who were asked wanted it to come back as that sort of show is largely AWOL from the BBC these days.

Then we had the controversy over the weekend (front page of Sunday's Daily Mail rant) regarding Just a Girl - which the Mail claim is some leftie move to indoctrinate kids aged 6 into the idea they can 'change sex' overnight.

As you might expect me to argue from my background that Mail article is full of nonsense and daft quotes not unconnected with the paper being notoriously anti Beeb,of course. But this is nonetheless a very edgy series for CBBC and something they would never have done in a million years until recently.

So it reflects the change away from safe and what viewers have wanted in the past and into what they seem to regard as a brave new world.

Now if they are trying to turn A Question of Sport into something new and modern then the pattern is developing into one that could fundamentally change how we see the Corporation.

Not necessarily entirely a bad thing. But how often do revamps on a successful format turning them into a show for modern times actually work? There has to be a risk of killing it off entirely if they are not careful to preserve the reasons why it has run for 50 years in the first place.
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Old 01-11-2016, 14:00
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Well you wouldn't know it wasn't a BBC magazine going by the content which is still incredibly pro-BBC.

I buy a TV mag once a year at Christmas - and it has to be TV and Satellite Week, which for me is the best out there right now in terms of layout and feature wise the most accurate reflection of the TV worth watching.
BBC magazine ? Next week's issue has acres of space devoted to Netflix including a free access offer. Back in the 1950s Radio Times used to sell over 8 million copies a week and some Christmas issues 9 million, now it's about 650,000.
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Old 01-11-2016, 14:05
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Michael McIntyre’s Big Show begins a new 6 part series on Saturday 19 November time to be confirmed
Surely it'll follow Strictly- The ratings kind of tailed off in the spring but it was a solid enough 4-5m rater and Strictly does have a considerable crossover audience looking for LE that isn't XF so it might do particularly well
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Old 01-11-2016, 14:19
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There has to be a risk of killing it off entirely if they are not careful to preserve the reasons why it has run for 50 years in the first place.
But QoS has been transformed many times. The show today bears almost no resemblance whatsoever to the original. The greater risk of death would appear to come from leaving it as it is with viewing figures falling and graveyard scheduling.
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Old 01-11-2016, 14:26
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i hope i put this in the right area , just woundering if theres anything avalible online to view of itv listing from september 55 til the start of tv times in 1969 -70? i know theres there is a WS show pockets of listings i think linked to the A-R television service ,but not sure if its working the same as the BBCs gemone site . i am hoping that searching this mass archive somthing of interest will be there ,though for me it will be in the 1980s ,but nice to go back further .
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Old 01-11-2016, 14:29
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Surely it'll follow Strictly- The ratings kind of tailed off in the spring but it was a solid enough 4-5m rater and Strictly does have a considerable crossover audience looking for LE that isn't XF so it might do particularly well
There's no obvious room there. Who dares Wins is slated for 13 episodes and Casualty ad infinitum. And Strictly can't easily be moved forward because Pointless Celebrities is only halfway through the run. All very odd!
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Old 01-11-2016, 14:32
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BBC magazine ? Next week's issue has acres of space devoted to Netflix including a free access offer. Back in the 1950s Radio Times used to sell over 8 million copies a week and some Christmas issues 9 million, now it's about 650,000.
I'm not sure why ABC in 2015 said RT was selling 750k and in 2016 it was 400k. Maybe the latter is only from shops?


http://www.campaignlive.co.uk/articl...glance/1360010
http://www.betterretailing.com/categ...100-magazines/

TV Choice 1.2m
What's on TV 1m
TV Times 200k
Satellite Week 100k

Ish.

3m households is a lot. As a guide, the Sun is 1.7m, Mail 1.5m and Mirror 750k.
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/abc-fi...nt-and-online/
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Old 01-11-2016, 14:40
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There's no obvious room there. Who dares Wins is slated for 13 episodes and Casualty ad infinitum. And Strictly can't easily be moved forward because Pointless Celebrities is only halfway through the run. All very odd!
Can they not split WDW and bring it back after Xmas? I like that the BBC is going after XF. If it works, good for them; if it doesn't, XF has turned a corner.
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Old 01-11-2016, 14:47
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Can they not split WDW and bring it back after Xmas? I like that the BBC is going after XF. If it works, good for them; if it doesn't, XF has turned a corner.
Well I guess they'll have to or do likewise with Pointless. It just seems a little odd, that's all, bearing in mind that it's only 6 months since the previous series of Big Show.
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Old 01-11-2016, 14:48
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There's no obvious room there. Who dares Wins is slated for 13 episodes and Casualty ad infinitum. And Strictly can't easily be moved forward because Pointless Celebrities is only halfway through the run. All very odd!
I don't think BBC1 would have much of an issue with interrupting either Pointless Celebrities or Who Dares Win mid-series. I'm sure In It To Win It has had series split into two runs in the past.
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Old 01-11-2016, 15:19
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I don't think BBC1 would have much of an issue with interrupting either Pointless Celebrities or Who Dares Win mid-series. I'm sure In It To Win It has had series split into two runs in the past.
I would be more sensible for it to replace Who Dares Wins as it gets lower ratings than Pointless Celebrities, but I have a feeling they'll got for the earlier slot because it suits the style of show it is.
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Old 01-11-2016, 15:30
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Rather surprised about the reports over the BBC and A Question of Sport. Putting it out to tender and asking for major changes in the options including format and presenter and team captains.

This is the longest running quiz show on TV (on continuously for 50 years in the next year or so). It has always been a steady performer. And I suspect the audience knowing what they are getting is part of the reason.

The BBC seem to be making some very strange decisions recently that seem to be moving away from old, traditional viewing ideas and towards edginess and controversy.

Losing Bake Off is only the top of it when you bear in mind things like the decision not to do more Goodnight Sweetheart, despite it being the overwhelmingly requested returnee in polls carried out post the recent sitcom series. Their reason being to give the few slots to something new and modern it was hinted. And this was an old traditional sitcom that was probably why such a high percentage who were asked wanted it to come back as that sort of show is largely AWOL from the BBC these days.

Then we had the controversy over the weekend (front page of Sunday's Daily Mail rant) regarding Just a Girl - which the Mail claim is some leftie move to indoctrinate kids aged 6 into the idea they can 'change sex' overnight.

As you might expect me to argue from my background that Mail article is full of nonsense and daft quotes not unconnected with the paper being notoriously anti Beeb,of course. But this is nonetheless a very edgy series for CBBC and something they would never have done in a million years until recently.


So it reflects the change away from safe and what viewers have wanted in the past and into what they seem to regard as a brave new world.

Now if they are trying to turn A Question of Sport into something new and modern then the pattern is developing into one that could fundamentally change how we see the Corporation.

Not necessarily entirely a bad thing. But how often do revamps on a successful format turning them into a show for modern times actually work? There has to be a risk of killing it off entirely if they are not careful to preserve the reasons why it has run for 50 years in the first place.
BIB - I'm assuming you missed I Am Leo, a documentary CBBC aired a couple of years ago about boy who was born a girl and their transition. It's a startling and unexpectedly moving story and handled in an extremely sensitive manner. Curiously, the Daily Heil actually covered it in quite an even-handed way …

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...urney-boy.html

So I wonder why they suddenly did a total about-face in the instance of Just A Girl? CBBC are notoriously careful about what they broadcast - the kind of stories that would once be seen on Grange Hill are nowhere to be seen at all - so I rather doubt that any of the people moaning have any legitimate grounds for complaint. I also very much doubt that they've even watched Just A Girl …
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