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Old 01-11-2016, 15:38
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BBC1
EastEnders: 5.75m (26.9%)
The One Show: 4.05m (22.0%)
BBC News (10pm): 3.52m (20.4%)

BBC2
University Challenge: 2.83m (13.3%)
Only Connect: 2.51m (11.6%)
The Victorian Slum: 1.40m (6.8%)

BBC4
Great Barrier Reef (R): 0.44m (2.0%)
Sleuths, Spies and Sorcerers: Andrew Marr's Paperback Heroes: 0.40m (2.0%)
Grand Tours of Scotland (R): 0.27m (1.4%)
One Show. 4 million.

Better than usual for the quizzes, they're starting to get going now. Disappointing for Victorian Slum bit I suppose Dark Angel took away casual viewers.

Disappointing night for BBC4, to not even top 0.5 million on a Monday is unusual and the Andrew Marr programme is lower than I would have liked. I see the excellent Virago documentary at 10:00pm didn't make the top three which is again disappointing, it was really good.

Saving Africa's Elephants: Hugh and the Ivory War: 1.6m (8.1%)
Awful. They'd be stupid to commission anymore from Hugh, he just doesn't rate well enough.

I've been watching the Andrew Marr thing on BBC4 and found it pretty good - is that a good rating for BBC4 for that slot on a Monday (sorry, don't follow the ratings that closely...)?
It's been excellent, I agree. New documentaries on a Monday normally get 0.5 to 0.6 million so it's under.

From ITV Media:

Monday Top 10: Main channels (inc. +1 where applicable)

1 ITV - 07:30 PM Coronation Street 6.868m 35%
2 ITV - 08:30 PM Coronation Street 6.704m 31%
3 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 6.396m 35%
4 BBC One - 08:00 PM EastEnders 5.751m 27%
5 BBC One - 06:30 PM Regional News and Weather 5.498m 31%
6 BBC One - 06:00 PM BBC News at Six 5.167m 31%
7 ITV - 09:00 PM Dark Angel 4.893m 25%
8 BBC One - 07:00 PM The One Show 3.979m 22% 4.05m tape checked
9 ITV - 06:00 PM ITV Regional News 3.680m 22%
10 BBC One - 10:00 PM BBC News at Ten 3.522m 20%
Emmerdale doing well and now certainly the second soap, good figures for Corrie last night as well, disappointing for EastEnders, however Gavin Shipman tries to spin it, they should be doing much better than that.
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Old 01-11-2016, 16:03
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Jictar ratings for 19-25 December 1977

1. The Mike Yarwood Christmas Show (BBC1, Sun 20:20): 21.4m
2. The Morecambe and Wise Christmas Show (BBC1, Sun 20:55): 21.3m
3. Bruce Forsyth and the Generation Game (BBC1, Sun 19:15): 19.95m
4. George and Mildred (ITV, Mon 20:00): 18.9m
5. Wednesday at Eight (ITV, Wed 20:00): 18.0m
6. Coronation Street (Mon) (ITV, Mon 19:30): 16.5m
7. This is Your Life: Lin Berwick (ITV, Wed 19:00): 16.3m
8. Crossroads (ITV, Fri 18:35*): 15.85m
9. Crossroads (ITV, Wed 18:35*): 15.4m
10. Coronation Street (ITV, Wed 19:30): 15.25m
11. Crossroads (ITV, Tues 18:35*): 14.95m
12. This England: House of the Stars (ITV, Mon 20:30): 14.75m
13.= The Liver Birds (BBC1, Fri 20:25): 14.7m
13.= Crossroads (ITV, Thurs 18:35*): 14.7m
15. Happy Ever After (BBC1, Fri 19:55): 14.6m
16. Oh No It's Selwyn Froggitt (ITV, Tues 19:30): 14.15m
17.= The Dick Emery Christmas Show (BBC1, Sat 21:05): 13.95m
17.= Pub Entertainer of the Year Grand Final (ITV, Tues 21:00): 13.95m
19. Opportunity Knocks! (ITV, Mon 18:45): 13.7m
20. Charlie's Angels (ITV, Tues 20:00): 13.35m

*Crossroads was shown at a different time in some regions
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Old 01-11-2016, 16:08
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Jictar ratings for 26 December 1977-1 January 1978

1. This is Your Life: Bob Paisley (ITV, Wed 19:00): 17.25m
2.= Crossroads (ITV, Thurs 18:35*): 16.5m
2.= Film: Escape of the Birdmen (Premiere) (ITV, Thurs 19:00): 16.5m
2.= Crossroads (ITV, Fri 18:35*): 16.5m
5. Crossroads (ITV, Wed 18:35*): 16.3m
6. Coronation Street (ITV, Wed 19:30): 16.2m
7. Bruce's Choice (BBC1, Sat 19:15): 16.05m
8. Wednesday at Eight (ITV, Wed 20:00): 15.95m
9. Disney Time (BBC1, Tues 17:25): 15.2m
10. The Good Life Christmas Special (BBC1, Mon 19:35): 15.0m
11. Film: Doctor in Trouble (ITV, Sun 19:45): 14.9m
12. Max's Holiday Hour (ITV, Tues 19:30): 14.7m
13.= The Two Ronnies (BBC1, Mon 20:05): 14.5m
13.= Film: Fear is the Key (Premiere) (ITV, Tues 20:30): 14.5m
13.= Dudh Kosi: Relentless River of Everest (ITV, Wed 21:00): 14.5m
16. Oh No It's Selwyn Froggitt (ITV, Tues 19:00): 14.35m
17. Mind Your Language (ITV, Fri 19:00): 14.2m
18. Crossroads (ITV, Tues 18:35*): 14.05m
19. Jim'll Fix It (BBC1, Mon 17:25): 13.8m
20. Film: Support Your Local Sheriff (BBC1, Mon 18:05): 13.6m

* Crossroads was shown at a different time in some regions
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Old 01-11-2016, 16:15
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Old 01-11-2016, 16:18
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Nov 19 could look like this

5.40 Pointless celebrities
6.30 Strictly Come Dancing
7.45 Michael McIntyre Big Show
8.30 Who Dares Wins
9.20 Casualty
10.10 BBC News
10.30 Match of The Day

Strictly could reduce by 5 minutes every week as another celeb is voted out
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Old 01-11-2016, 17:14
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One Show. 4 million.

Better than usual for the quizzes, they're starting to get going now. Disappointing for Victorian Slum bit I suppose Dark Angel took away casual viewers.

Disappointing night for BBC4, to not even top 0.5 million on a Monday is unusual and the Andrew Marr programme is lower than I would have liked. I see the excellent Virago documentary at 10:00pm didn't make the top three which is again disappointing, it was really good.



Awful. They'd be stupid to commission anymore from Hugh, he just doesn't rate well enough.



It's been excellent, I agree. New documentaries on a Monday normally get 0.5 to 0.6 million so it's under.



Emmerdale doing well and now certainly the second soap, good figures for Corrie last night as well, disappointing for EastEnders, however Gavin Shipman tries to spin it, they should be doing much better than that.
I agree it should be doing better and if there isn't a rise tonight in viewers then it will probably mean being under 6m all week. There's not much to arlttract viewers the writing and character interaction might be better but SOC needs to create some interesting stories to get viewers tuning in.
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Old 01-11-2016, 17:15
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Nov 19 could look like this

5.40 Pointless celebrities
6.30 Strictly Come Dancing
7.45 Michael McIntyre Big Show
8.30 Who Dares Wins
9.20 Casualty
10.10 BBC News
10.30 Match of The Day

Strictly could reduce by 5 minutes every week as another celeb is voted out

I think the BBC are certain to keep clasing SCD with TXF, so MM Big Show will likely be at 8.10/20pm.

Although I could be wrong.

SCD will likely create a halo around MM Big Show, so should manage a good 5m+.
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Old 01-11-2016, 17:22
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As I said a few weeks ago, EastEnders have trouble on the horizon.

As a fan of the show, I want drama - not everyday life. It's bad enough having to deal with annoying, trivial things like disagreements over bins in real life without seeing it in EastEnders as well!

Previous producers have tried to "ground" the show before, and it hasn't worked.
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Old 01-11-2016, 17:59
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I think the BBC are certain to keep clasing SCD with TXF, so MM Big Show will likely be at 8.10/20pm.

Although I could be wrong.

SCD will likely create a halo around MM Big Show, so should manage a good 5m+.
After a strictly at 8:20 seems a bit late for the MM show, but before strictly seems a bit early, so I'm surprised they are squeezing it in before Christmas.
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Old 01-11-2016, 18:00
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As I said a few weeks ago, EastEnders have trouble on the horizon.

As a fan of the show, I want drama - not everyday life. It's bad enough having to deal with annoying, trivial things like disagreements over bins in real life without seeing it in EastEnders as well!

Previous producers have tried to "ground" the show before, and it hasn't worked.
Totally agree. It just comes across as clunky too. Good characterisation doesn't have to mean boredom.
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Old 01-11-2016, 18:02
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The Missing finishes on the 30th, I wonder what BBC One will show on the 3 Wednesday's before Christmas?.
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Old 01-11-2016, 18:02
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The price of the Radio Times Won't be doing that again. Nice month of free Netflix though, thanks for the heads up whoever mentioned the offer.
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Old 01-11-2016, 18:12
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The price of the Radio Times Won't be doing that again. Nice month of free Netflix though, thanks for the heads up whoever mentioned the offer.
I've only got the Radio Times because it was 12 issues for a £1. Otherwise, I would never buy it as its regular price. The features are good enough, but I've read them in 15 minutes!

I do usually buy the bumper Christmas issue though, even if it is £3.50 or whatever.
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Old 01-11-2016, 18:14
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I've only got the Radio Times because it was 12 issues for a £1. Otherwise, I would never buy it as its regular price. The features are good enough, but I've read them in 15 minutes!

I do usually buy the bumper Christmas issue though, even if it is £3.50 or whatever.
I believe the double issue this year is £4.35.
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Old 01-11-2016, 18:19
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I believe the double issue this year is £4.35.
Luckily I get it under the 12 issues deal then! I would never pay £4.35 to be perfectly honest, that's pushing it a bit.
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Old 01-11-2016, 19:37
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BIB - I'm assuming you missed I Am Leo, a documentary CBBC aired a couple of years ago about boy who was born a girl and their transition. It's a startling and unexpectedly moving story and handled in an extremely sensitive manner. Curiously, the Daily Heil actually covered it in quite an even-handed way …

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...urney-boy.html

So I wonder why they suddenly did a total about-face in the instance of Just A Girl? CBBC are notoriously careful about what they broadcast - the kind of stories that would once be seen on Grange Hill are nowhere to be seen at all - so I rather doubt that any of the people moaning have any legitimate grounds for complaint. I also very much doubt that they've even watched Just A Girl …

Yes, I agree and I did see that earlier show Servalan. And I have watched Just a Girl.

But like you say the MoS almost certainly have not and are just whipping up a Mumsnet campaign over it as they are trying to stop puberty blocker drugs being prescribed to teenagers.

Being trans myself, as I have mentioned before in this thread and often on GD, I rarely miss something like that.

I was possibly one of the first trans women to write and present a feature on the BBC (in 1975). Though it was not actually about trans and quite possibly the BBC were not aware that I was trans at the time. Though they were in 1996 when I wrote and presented another documentary on BBC 2 (again not on trans issues) and some media busy body then outed me in the press.

So you can take it I am not supporting the Daily Mail's stance on this or in any way anti BBC. I am completely behind what they are doing personally.

As I posted in the thread on General Discussion yesterday on this Just a Girl is in my opinion exactly what schoolchildren need in this day and age to help them understand something they are increasingly likely to encounter in daily life in class.

The Mail have a vendetta going on trans matters at the moment. This was their second big three page story on the subject over the weekend.

But my more general point about the BBC stands and this is reflective of their more radical approach.

Not that I am saying that this is in of itself a bad thing. Just that it reflects a change that seems to be influencing programming.
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Old 01-11-2016, 20:06
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From ITV Media:

Monday Top 10: Main channels (inc. +1 where applicable)

1 ITV - 07:30 PM Coronation Street 6.868m 35%
2 ITV - 08:30 PM Coronation Street 6.704m 31%
3 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 6.396m 35%
4 BBC One - 08:00 PM EastEnders 5.751m 27%
Poor for EastEnders again, a million behind Corrie and significantly behind Emmerdale.

I wonder if it will still receive the usual Christmas boost that results in it being number one soap for about two weeks or continue in 2nd or 3rd place?
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Old 01-11-2016, 20:09
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Nov 19 could look like this

5.40 Pointless celebrities
6.30 Strictly Come Dancing
7.45 Michael McIntyre Big Show
8.30 Who Dares Wins
9.20 Casualty
10.10 BBC News
10.30 Match of The Day

Strictly could reduce by 5 minutes every week as another celeb is voted out
Again, none of this is my cup of tea, but what a strong lineup compared to what ITV offers. They only have XF as their really only attraction. BBC One has a solid lineup from early teatime through to nearly midnight.
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Old 01-11-2016, 20:12
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Again, none of this is my cup of tea, but what a strong lineup compared to what ITV offers. They only have XF as their really only attraction. BBC One has a solid lineup from early teatime through to nearly midnight.
It's literally a dream for the older viewers. They can sit down at 5PM and watch entertainment aimed at them all evening. It's a very strong lineup though.
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Old 01-11-2016, 20:21
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I believe the double issue this year is £4.35.
not £4.60?
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Old 01-11-2016, 20:37
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Poor for EastEnders again, a million behind Corrie and significantly behind Emmerdale.

I wonder if it will still receive the usual Christmas boost that results in it being number one soap for about two weeks or continue in 2nd or 3rd place?
Emmerdale is usually very low at Christmas so it should go up above that at least.
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Old 01-11-2016, 20:39
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#darkangel Strong start: 4.8m (25% share).
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Decent start for Dark Angel. Close to 5m not too shabby. Around Cold Feet levels too.

Including +1:

The Walking Dead (9pm): 808k (4%)
TWD performing well for it's second episode of it's new run (although after last weeks season opener, last night was somewhat boring, but not totally unexpected as this is the general trend for TWD).

From ITV Media:

Monday Top 10: Other channels (inc. +1 where applicable)

2 E4 - 07:00 PM Hollyoaks 626k 3.4%
Very disappointed with that number. This is a big week for Hollyoaks and I was expecting 800-850k. Hopefully it can rally as the week progresses. It's been brilliant so far.
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Old 01-11-2016, 20:40
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Good post. It's fair to say when you look at it in context that Tut has not been the biggest problem with ITV's schedule this autumn. I would fully agree with that. I only highlighted Tut in the first place because I was discussing Humans' weakish start and then of course that one-line within a much longer post was jumped upon. But yeah, considering the promise there was at the beginning of the season, there's been a surprising number of flops & disappointments over at ITV this autumn and the schedule hasn't flowed very well at all.

Long term though I'm not worried for them. I think Lygo is absolutely the right man to turn it around. Everything he's revealed publicly about his plans has been very encouraging. Now of course it's not going to happen overnight, but gradually I would expect to see things improve. Especially on a core night like Sunday.
Yes I've been encouraged by what Lygo has been saying too. It'll take some time and I'm sure there will be flops along the way but he at least seems willing to try different things, which they've not down enough of late. The 2017 schedule looks fairly promising from what has been announced so far and I think there's a lot more to come. They've announced a lot of new drama but I think both light entertainment and fact ent need new hits and fast. He's identified both as priority areas so let's see what happens.
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Old 01-11-2016, 20:41
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It's literally a dream for the older viewers. They can sit down at 5PM and watch entertainment aimed at them all evening. It's a very strong lineup though.
That's true and same goes for Sunday evenings too.
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Old 01-11-2016, 20:41
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Poor for EastEnders again, a million behind Corrie and significantly behind Emmerdale.

I wonder if it will still receive the usual Christmas boost that results in it being number one soap for about two weeks or continue in 2nd or 3rd place?
EE will certainly have its usual New Year boost if the two big exits are to be believed as happening then. Christmas will probably be close between EE and Corrie with Emmerdale a bit behind as usual.
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