The Ratings Thread (Part 68)

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cylon6

02-11-2016

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“There you are Cylon, fill your boots.

Ray, if there are any that incorrect please correct them!

I've put them only in years and not series but you get the idea of how they rated.

Spoiler

Morecambe and Wise Ratings 1970-1983

* Pre 1977 figures are viewers in homes. I’ve multipled them by 2.2 which is what the BFI did several years ago when they compiled historic lists. I believe other ways of multiplying, i.e using a different number, are available.

Prizewinners (01 October 1970) - 17.60m (8.00m homes)
Morecambe and Wise’s Cinema (01 October 1970) - 15.51m (7.05m homes)

08 October 1970 - 14.30m (6.50m homes)
15 October 1970 - 14.74m (6.70m homes)
22 October 1970 - 15.40m (7.00m homes)
29 October 1970 - 15.40m (7.00m homes)
05 November 1970 - below 6.05m homes
12 November 1970 - 14.74m (6.70m homes)
19 November 1970 - 15.62m (7.10m homes)
26 November 1970 - 15.73m (7.15m homes)
03 December 1970 - 15.95m (7.25m homes)
10 December 1970 - 14.74m (6.70m homes)
25 December 1970 - below 5.55m homes
31 December 1970 - n/a

16 March 1971 - 14.63m (6.65m homes)
* no editions made the BBC 1 top 20 for the rest of 1971

20 May 1972 - 14.96m (6.80m homes)
25 December 1972 - below 5.45m homes

05 January 1973 - 15.07m (6.85m homes)
12 January 1973 - 15.29m (6.95m homes)
19 January 1973 - 16.61m (7.55m homes)
26 January 1973 - 16.61m (7.55m homes)
02 February 1973 - 17.05m (7.75m homes)
09 February 1973 - 15.51m (7.05m homes)
16 February 1973 - 15.29m (6.95m homes)
23 February 1973 - 15.29m (6.95m homes)
02 March 1973 - 17.38m (7.90m homes)
09 March 1973 - 16.17m (7.35m homes)
16 March 1973 - 15.95m (7.25m homes)
23 March 1973 - 15.73m (7.15m homes)
22 April 1973 - below 5.70m homes
25 December 1973 - 11.88m (5.40m homes)

27 September 1974 - 16.72m (7.60m homes)
04 October 1974 - 15.29m (6.95m homes)
11 October 1974 - 14.96m (6.80m homes)
18 October 1974 - 15.95m (7.25m homes)
25 October 1974 - 15.40m (7.00m homes)
01 November 1974 - 15.62m (7.10m homes)

25 December 1975 - 14.19m (6.45m homes)

07 January 1976 - 18.04m (8.20m homes)
21 January 1976 - 16.72m (7.60m homes)
11 February 1976 - 16.94m (7.70m homes)
10 March 1976 - 14.85m (6.75m homes)
24 March 1976 - below 6.45m homes
19 April 1976 - 16.83m (7.65m homes)
25 December 1976 - 15.40m (7.00m homes)

25 December 1977 - 21.30m

07 June 1978 (r.) - n/a
21 June 1978 (r.) - below 10.20m

Morecambe and Wise at the BBC (compilation series)
11 January 1979 - 15.80m
* rest of the series went up against Coronation Street on Wednesdays so was trounced.

ITV (Thames) years:

18 October 1978 - 18.70m
25 December 1978 - 19.15m

25 December 1979 - n/a

03 September 1980 - 16.45m
10 September 1980 - 18.00m
17 September 1980 - 16.70m
24 September 1980 - 17.10m
01 October 1980 - 17.60m
08 October 1980 - 18.65m
25 December 1980 - 14.60m

23 December 1981 - 16.65m (no.5 for the week)
* for the 1981 series, BARB did not publish a top 20 for each week during that period, no ratings available.

27 October 1982 - 11.70m
03 November 1982 - ~11.60m
10 November 1982 - 11.75m
17 November 1982 - 12.35m
24 November 1982 - ~12.20m
01 December 1982 - ~12.15m
08 December 1982 - ~11.95m
27 December 1982 - 11.50m

07 September 1983 - 12.15m
14 September 1983 - 13.25m
28 September 1983 - 11.90m
05 October 1983 - 11.45m
12 October 1983 - 12.90m
19 October 1983 - 13.95m
26 December 1983 - 11.20m

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Excellent Lewie!

Morecambe and Wise had a lot of momentum in their early years at Thames.

Dancc

02-11-2016

Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“3 BT Sport 2 - 07:00 PM Manchester City v Barcelona 723k 3.5%”

I was thinking 0.8m minimum.

Next UCL rights auction will be fascinating. Surely BT won't be able to justify the kind of sum they bid last time.

cylon6

02-11-2016

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“I was thinking 0.8m minimum.

Next UCL rights auction will be fascinating. Surely BT won't be able to justify the kind of sum they bid last time.”

Not those ratings either, unless they have seen a uptake in services like broadband.

H of De Vil

02-11-2016

Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“Well, further proof if proof was needed that there's no need to say "Oh, Tuesdays are a long term thing, they need to be gradually built up because people aren't used to watching ITV on a Tuesday". They put something appealing there and it got an audience. It's that simple.

To be honest, I doubt last week's episode being abandoned halfway through did much for the long term health of this series.

If nobody else has got it yet... 3.01m.”

So competition from ITV, does impact BBC1 on Tuesday. Is it any wonder so many dramas do well on BBC1 on this day. They usually face nothing from ITV, but TPofBA have shown something worth watching can knock BBC1.

James J

02-11-2016

The Press Association has compiled a list of the 20 most watched shows of all time (excluding repeats, films, sport and major news events) in the UK.

1. Only Fools and Horses (BBC1, 29 December 1996): 24.35m
2. To the Manor Born (BBC1, 11 November 1979): 23.95m
3. The Royal Variety Performance (ITV, 29 November 1967): 22.80m
4. Panorama (BBC1, 20 November 1995): 22.77m
5. The Royal Variety Performance (ITV, 14 November 1965): 21.70m
6. Dallas (BBC1, 22 November 1980): 21.60m
7. To the Manor Born (BBC1, 9 November 1980): 21.55m
8. The Mike Yarwood Christmas Show (BBC1, 25 December 1977): 21.40m
= Coronation Street (ITV, 2 January 1985): 21.40m
10. Only Fools and Horses (BBC1, 25 December 2001): 21.35m
11. Only Fools and Horses (BBC1, 27 December 1996): 21.33m
12. Only Fools and Horses (BBC1, 25 December 1996): 21.31m
13. The Morecambe and Wise Christmas Show (BBC1, 25 December 1977): 21.30m
14. The Royal Variety Performance (ITV, 10 November 1963): 21.20m
= The Silver Jubilee Royal Variety Gala (ITV, 4 December 1977): 21.20m
16. Bread (BBC1, 11 December 1988): 20.95m
17. The Benny Hill Show (ITV, 14 March 1979): 20.85m
18. Coronation Street (ITV, 18 December 1980): 20.80m
19. Just Good Friends (BBC1, 21 December 1986): 20.75m
20. Sale of the Century (ITV, 19 November 1977) 20.60m
= Coronation Street (ITV, 9 January 1985): 20.60m
= Coronation Street (ITV, 16 January 1985): 20.60m

Weird list... right?

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...v-moments-ever

all_night

02-11-2016

Originally Posted by James J:
“The Press Association has compiled a list of the 20 most watched shows of all time (excluding repeats, films, sport and major news events) in the UK.

1. Only Fools and Horses (BBC1, 29 December 1996): 24.35m
2. To the Manor Born (BBC1, 11 November 1979): 23.95m
3. The Royal Variety Performance (ITV, 29 November 1967): 22.80m
4. Panorama (BBC1, 20 November 1995): 22.77m
5. The Royal Variety Performance (ITV, 14 November 1965): 21.70m
6. Dallas (BBC1, 22 November 1980): 21.60m
7. To the Manor Born (BBC1, 9 November 1980): 21.55m
8. The Mike Yarwood Christmas Show (BBC1, 25 December 1977): 21.40m
= Coronation Street (ITV, 2 January 1985): 21.40m
10. Only Fools and Horses (BBC1, 25 December 2001): 21.35m
11. Only Fools and Horses (BBC1, 27 December 1996): 21.33m
12. Only Fools and Horses (BBC1, 25 December 1996): 21.31m
13. The Morecambe and Wise Christmas Show (BBC1, 25 December 1977): 21.30m
14. The Royal Variety Performance (ITV, 10 November 1963): 21.20m
= The Silver Jubilee Royal Variety Gala (ITV, 4 December 1977): 21.20m
16. Bread (BBC1, 11 December 1988): 20.95m
17. The Benny Hill Show (ITV, 14 March 1979): 20.85m
18. Coronation Street (ITV, 18 December 1980): 20.80m
19. Just Good Friends (BBC1, 21 December 1986): 20.75m
20. Sale of the Century (ITV, 19 November 1977) 20.60m
= Coronation Street (ITV, 9 January 1985): 20.60m
= Coronation Street (ITV, 16 January 1985): 20.60m

Weird list... right?

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...v-moments-ever”

Welcome to the party

dennisboy

02-11-2016

That 'Emmerdale is certainly the second soap' nonsense lasted long, didn't it?

cylon6

02-11-2016

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“So competition from ITV, does impact BBC1 on Tuesday. Is it any wonder so many dramas do well on BBC1 on this day. They usually face nothing from ITV, but TPofBA have shown something worth watching can knock BBC1.”

Put something decent on and you get viewers. ITV have made Tuesday a factual dumping ground like BBC1 have with Monday. Piss easy to get a decent drama rating on the night...as long as it's good. Ordinary Lies is VERY ordinary. Eben with no competition it struggled.

James J

02-11-2016

Originally Posted by all_night:
“Welcome to the party ”

Oh shit has it been mentioned already?

Feel stupid now.

cylon6

02-11-2016

Originally Posted by all_night:
“Welcome to the party ”

Yep. We've been all over this. No sport, no Eric & Ernie 28m in 1977, ITV Jictar ratings used as they're more accurate. Delete where applicable.

Jonwo

02-11-2016

Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“Comes back to my point about wanting the old 5:45 news back so shows like simple gameshows or travel shows or This Is Your Life could be on at 6:30. As cylon says - some bloody diversity in primetime.”

The current news set up with regional at 6 and national at 6.30pm works for ITV plus they are very unlikely to change what is a solid daytime schedule by pushing everything back by 45 minutes to show stuff at 6.30pm which likely wouldn't rate as well

James J

02-11-2016

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Yep. We've been all over this. No sport, no Eric & Ernie 28m in 1977, ITV Jictar ratings used as they're more accurate. Delete where applicable. ”

I went back looking but found no trace of discussion.

When was it discussed?

James J

02-11-2016

Originally Posted by dennisboy:
“That 'Emmerdale is certainly the second soap' nonsense lasted long, didn't it?”

0.367m difference and Emmerdale probably higher when tape checked so I'd say the "nonsense" is ongoing.

Baz_James

02-11-2016

Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“I see next Tuesday ITV is showing a Midsommer episode which is S18 Ep4. This is another UK drama I've never actually seen but I'll be interested to see if a repeat can challenge Holby. It has more chance than normal flop shows.
.”

Don't think it's intended to Challenge anything. It's filler for the week between Pride of Britain and the England football match.

cylon6

02-11-2016

Originally Posted by James J:
“Oh shit has it been mentioned already? Feel stupid now.”

Don't worry about it! We're still querying the list.

cylon6

02-11-2016

Originally Posted by James J:
“I went back looking but found no trace of discussion.

When was it discussed?”

Monday morning/afternoon I think.

Jonwo

02-11-2016

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Excellent rating. BBC Two never fails to make a real impact with these stripped nature formats.

Coped well with the increased competition from ITV and at least got the better of Married at First Sight. Tricky night again with Champions League football to contend with as well.

But deserved more. An excellent episode with a really interesting couple.”

New Lives in the Wild is a solid performer and I think 5 is really benefitting from Channel 4 having really weak programming in certain slots, I expect GPs will be up tonight since Bake Off isn't on. The Yorkshire Vet did a hit but that was to expected since the ITV competition was 3 times more viewer than usual

I do think there are certain shows that should be axed like On Benefits and maybe Police Interceptors since Traffic Cops is coming and fills the same role.

Baz_James

02-11-2016

Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“In any case the key surely was that it was the overwhelming choice of the viewers when asked which show should return in several media polls. It was exceptionally well received as is obvious even from the threads on here and in national papers - several of whom carried articles saying the audience wanted more before the BBC declined. Something they did not do with the other sitcoms.”

Media polls say far more about the kind of people that complete media polls than they do about their subjects generally speaking. And are you really suggesting that BBC commissioning should be run at the whim of a few hundred tweeters and DS forumites?! The word 'exceptionally' is more than a tad hyperbolic in terms of the reception. It warmed a few heart cockles undoubtedly but TV critics were by no means as impressed as has been suggested. In fact I've yet to find a serious newspaper that could be said to have enthused, something which certainly cannot be said of 'Motherland' which they more or less universally loved.

Dancc

02-11-2016

Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“New Lives in the Wild is a solid performer and I think 5 is really benefitting from Channel 4 having really weak programming in certain slots, I expect GPs will be up tonight since Bake Off isn't on. The Yorkshire Vet did a hit but that was to expected since the ITV competition was 3 times more viewer than usual

I do think there are certain shows that should be axed like On Benefits and maybe Police Interceptors since Traffic Cops is coming and fills the same role.”

I see it will be branded "All New Traffic Cops" on air which is a bit tacky for my liking. It's not as if BBC One is repeating old episodes at the moment. I don't much like the trend of "New:" preceding programme titles that seemingly everyone is now doing on the EPG either, but this is even worse.

Should do better than Police Interceptors which always rates solidly but seems to have an absolute maximum audience of 1.2m.

The C5 schedule is shaping up nicely as we inch closer to winter. Will be interesting to see how Jack Taylor performs this time around. It's been ages since the last series. Think we're getting it before Ireland, too.

Baz_James

02-11-2016

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“. And I will tell you right now that I know of several production companies where the furthest north they'll go for a studio is Elstree or Pinewood.”

Well that's their problem, isn't it? I don't see why BBC should be bailing them out!

Jonwo

02-11-2016

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“I see it will be branded "All New Traffic Cops" on air which is a bit tacky for my liking. It's not as if BBC One is repeating old episodes at the moment. I don't much like the trend of "New:" preceding programme titles that seemingly everyone is now doing on the EPG either, but this is even worse.

Should do better than Police Interceptors which always rates solidly but seems to have an absolute maximum audience of 1.2m.

The C5 schedule is shaping up nicely as we inch closer to winter. Will be interesting to see how Jack Taylor performs this time around. It's been ages since the last series. Think we're getting it before Ireland, too.”

I assume Jack Taylor is Thursdays since Monday to Wednesdays is filled as is Fridays.

Baz_James

02-11-2016

Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“I assume Jack Taylor is Thursdays since Monday to Wednesdays is filled as is Fridays.”

You assume correctly. Starting 17th.

sunbeam007

02-11-2016

Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“From ITV Media:

Tuesday Top 10: Main channels (inc. +1 where applicable)

1 BBC One - 07:30 PM EastEnders 5.951m 30%
2 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 5.854m 31% Probably around 6.1m (?) tape checked
3 BBC One - 06:30 PM Regional News and Weather 5.501m 30%
4 BBC One - 06:00 PM BBC News at Six 5.195m 30%
5 ITV - 08:00 PM The Pride of Britain Awards 4.122m 19%
6 BBC One - 08:00 PM Holby City 4.096m 19%
7 BBC One - 07:00 PM The One Show 3.903m 21%
8 BBC One - 10:00 PM BBC News at Ten 3.890m 25%
9 BBC One - 06:00 PM ITV Regional News 3.742m 21%
10 ITV - 05:00 PM The Chase 3.482m 25%

Tuesday Top 10: Other channels (inc. +1 where applicable)

1 E4 - 07:00 PM Hollyoaks 842k 4.5%
2 ITV3 - 08:00 PM Midsomer Murders 732k 3.5%
3 BT Sport 2 - 07:00 PM Manchester City v Barcelona 723k 3.5%
4 CBeebies - 04:45 PM Peter Rabbit 466k 4.3%
5 CBeebies - 05:35 PM Jamillah and Aladdin 460k 3.1%
6 CBeebies - 05:00 PM The Let's Go Club 457k 3.9%
7 E4 - 06:30 PM The Big Bang Theory 455k 2.5%
8 ITV2 - 07:30 PM You've Been Framed! Gold 432k 2.2%
9 Dave - 10:00 PM Taskmaster 432k 3.1%
10 E4 - 06:00 PM The Big Bang Theory 428k 2.4%”

My hot takes..

ITV have really messed up putting shows against SCD rather than 8pm on Tuesdays, especially now they have a show on Wednesday.
Ordinary Lies is like Paranoid and Level and shows that drama is harder work on a weekday than on a Sunday.
Not even 750k for the ManCs v Barca is feeble. Yes Arsenal and Celtic stole viewers but UEFA and their corporate sponsors can't be happy. The door is open for ITV or C5 to do a deal on the new rights.

lewiep93

02-11-2016

I've posted this before but here's my take on the top 30 most watched of all time which includes films, sport, etc. I haven't included BBC 1 shows from the 1979 ITV strike period as the list would be full of shows from that period (unfair maybe?). I said on Monday that these lists are often polarising as people shout "well what about World Cup 66?". These are SINGLE showings only and only one highest rated edition per series. Of course, there's no set ratings method pre-1981 so I guess there'll always be debates on this.

Royal Variety most watched show of all time? WHAT? According to an article from November 1967 in The Stage Archive it is, was amazed at that one. It had 11.6m homes which multiplied by 2.2 (how the BFI convert these figures) equates to 25.52m. And it is interesting that the other list and the BFI have the 1965 Royal Variety as the highest. More star guests than 1967?

It really is incredible to see which shows were popular.

Code:

Rank	Programme				Audience	Broadcast Date	        Channel
1	Royal Variety Performance		25.52m		19 November 1967	ITV
2	Olympics 2012: Closing Ceremony	        24.47m		12 August 2012		BBC 1
3	Only Fools and Horses			24.35m		29 December 1996	BBC 1
4	Olympics 2012: Opening Ceremony	        24.25m		27 July 2012		BBC 1
5	To the Manor Born                       23.95m          07 November 1979        BBC 1
5=	Olympic Ice Dance Championship	        23.95m		21 February 1994	BBC 1
7	World Cup 1998: England v Argentina	23.78m		30 June 1998		ITV
8	Miss World				23.76m		19 November 1967	BBC 1
9	Film: Live and Let Die			23.50m		20 January 1980	        ITV
10	Film: Jaws				23.25m		08 October 1981	        ITV
11	Film: Dr. No				23.10m		28 October 1975         ITV
12	Film: The Spy Who Loved Me		22.90m		28 March 1982		ITV
13	Panorama Special: Princess Diana	22.78m		20 November 1995	BBC 1
14	This is Your Life			22.22m		27 April 1977		ITV
15	Film: Diamonds are Forever		22.15m		15 March 1981		ITV
16	The London Palladium Show		21.89m 	        03 December 1967	ITV
17	Film: Crocodile Dundee			21.77m		25 December 1977	BBC 1
18	The Benny Hill Show			21.67m		24 March 1971		ITV
19	Dallas					21.60m		22 November 1980	BBC 1
20	Eurovision Song Contest		        21.56m		07 April 1973		BBC 1
20=	Film: Goldfinger			21.56m		03 November 1976	ITV
22	Steptoe and Son				21.54m		18 February 1964	BBC
23	The Mike Yarwood Christmas Show	        21.40m		25 December 1977	BBC 1
23=	Coronation Street			21.40m		02 January 1985	        ITV
25	The Generation Game			21.34m		11 December 1976	BBC 1
26	The Morecambe and Wise Christmas Show	21.30m		25 December 1977	BBC 1
27	Sale of the Century			21.15m		22 December 1978	ITV
28	Boxing: Ali v Frazier			21.12m		09 March 1971		BBC 1
29	Survival Special			21.10m		22 December 1978	ITV
30	Mrs Thursday				21.01m		14 March 1966		ITV
30=	Love Thy Neighbour			21.01m		01 April 1974		ITV

sunbeam007

02-11-2016

That article is so very Guardian.

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