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The Ratings Thread (Part 68)
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Servalan
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“I agree

I think the frustration we share with him, only highlights how passionate we are about Corrie and it being in a healthy state. Having endured 3 years of mind knumbing crud under Blackburn, i think its fair to express out angry at him, given he is still being hired on soaps, despite a past trail of destuction.

If I was an ITV boss, I wouldn't let him anywhere near one of my soaps again. Its clear to see how much his tenure has impacted the soap. Its pissed off 2-3m viewers.

I don't want him never to work again, that is not what I'm saying, but not on a soap, where he clearly doesn't work, especially moving from one to another.”

ITV can't have been that concerned about SB otherwise they would have taken him off the show prematurely - as happened to Kim Crowther. Which rather suggests that those above him - Kieran Roberts, John Whiston and Jane Hudson - were either happy with what he was doing or, alternatively, were as powerless as he was to control the writers on Coronation Street.

He may well have had his name on the credits as producer throughout the period with which you have issues - and I'm not saying you're wrong in your concerns - but who controls Coronation Street is not quite as clear cut as it may appear …
Pizzatheaction
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by James J:
“Hi RT guys. What date will Christmas provisionals arrive?

*runs away*”

The way Digiguide has been recently, I wouldn't like to guess.
Andy23
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“The rest bar Orla Jordan looks very very poor, spent all the money in one place.”

Well it must be poor of you don't rate it, what with you usually being so positive about ITV shows.

And that does need a
H of De Vil
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by Score:
“Having just read a bit about it, I don't see Ethel & Ernest as something that is going to get a plum BBC1 slot. I just don't see it getting particularly big ratings. My current prediction is:

Christmas Eve

5.40 Celebrity Mastermind
6.10 Pointless Celebrities
7.00 The Great Christmas Bake Off
8.00 Michael McIntyre's Big Show
9.00 EastEnders
9.35 Outnumbered
10.15 Walliams & Friend
10.45 Not Going Out

Christmas Day

3.10 FILM: Frozen
4.45 BBC News
5.00 Doctor Who
6.00 Roald Dahl's Revolting Rhymes
6.30 Strictly Come Dancing
7.45 Call The Midwife
9.00 EastEnders
10.00 Mrs Brown's Boys
10.35 Would I Lie To You?

Boxing Day

6.00 Roald Dahl's Revolting Rhymes
6.30 FILM: Maleficent
8.00 EastEnders
8.30 Jonathan Creek
10.00 BBC News
10.20 Match of The Day

New Year's Day

5.30 FILM: Monsters University
7.00 EastEnders
8.00 Sherlock
9.35 Mrs Brown's Boys
10.15 BBC News
10.30 Match of The Day

Last Tango in Halifax on Tue 20th & 27th @ 9pm
Agatha Christie on Wed 28th & Thu 29th @ 9pm
Bake Off Part 1 on Wed 21st @ 8pm
Winter Soldier on Fri 30th @ 8.30pm”

That would be an excellent BBC schedule. I would watch most of that.

It would be good though, to see all four channels showing strong schedules. It makes the ratings unpredictable. As it is, you know bar the soaps on ITV most programmes will be scheduled badly, and will be under 4m.

Even ITV acquiring a new Disney titles would make all the difference.
iaindb
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“If Ola does well and can become a legitimate celebrity she could appear on next year's SCD as one of the celebrity contestants.”

There are at least two reasons why this is one of the worst predictions ever made on this thread.
D.M.N.
05-11-2016
Don't know whether it is me but on the surface BBC One's opposition to I'm a Celebrity looks tougher than previous years:

- Sunday 13th: My Mother and Other Strangers (new)
- Monday 14th: Children in Need Rocks For Terry (new)
- Wednesday 16th: The Missing
- Thursday 17th: The Apprentice
- Friday 18th: Children in Need

Whilst I expect I'm a Celebrity to win its slots, there's enough content there to dent I'm a Celebrity there in my opinion - potential for mid ~6m overnights during the first week? If I recall last year had one or two low nights.
H of De Vil
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Don't know whether it is me but on the surface BBC One's opposition to I'm a Celebrity looks tougher than previous years:

- Sunday 13th: My Mother and Other Strangers (new)
- Monday 14th: Children in Need Rocks For Terry (new)
- Wednesday 16th: The Missing
- Thursday 17th: The Apprentice
- Friday 18th: Children in Need

Whilst I expect I'm a Celebrity to win its slots, there's enough content there to dent I'm a Celebrity there in my opinion - potential for mid ~6m overnights during the first week? If I recall last year had one or two low nights.”

It does look tough, though the Sunday drama is untested opposition. It will likely take away any floating older viewers.

I can't see CIN Rocks doing much above 3.5m.

And The Missing isn't as strong, but will still be a 4.5m opposition.

If it starts well, and they have a good cast, can't see 6m overnights. That would be too low.
sunbeam007
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by Score:
“Having just read a bit about it, I don't see Ethel & Ernest as something that is going to get a plum BBC1 slot. I just don't see it getting particularly big ratings. My current prediction is:

Christmas Eve

5.40 Celebrity Mastermind
6.10 Pointless Celebrities
7.00 The Great Christmas Bake Off
8.00 Michael McIntyre's Big Show
9.00 EastEnders
9.35 Outnumbered
10.15 Walliams & Friend
10.45 Not Going Out

Christmas Day

3.10 FILM: Frozen
4.45 BBC News
5.00 Doctor Who
6.00 Roald Dahl's Revolting Rhymes
6.30 Strictly Come Dancing
7.45 Call The Midwife
9.00 EastEnders
10.00 Mrs Brown's Boys
10.35 Would I Lie To You?

Boxing Day

6.00 Roald Dahl's Revolting Rhymes
6.30 FILM: Maleficent
8.00 EastEnders
8.30 Jonathan Creek
10.00 BBC News
10.20 Match of The Day

New Year's Day

5.30 FILM: Monsters University
7.00 EastEnders
8.00 Sherlock
9.35 Mrs Brown's Boys
10.15 BBC News
10.30 Match of The Day

Last Tango in Halifax on Tue 20th & 27th @ 9pm
Agatha Christie on Wed 28th & Thu 29th @ 9pm
Bake Off Part 1 on Wed 21st @ 8pm
Winter Soldier on Fri 30th @ 8.30pm”

That's a nice looking fantasy schedule. There's only really Sherlock and Agatha Christie on there that I would be interested in but I could see that doing very well.
sunbeam007
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“There are at least two reasons why this is one of the worst predictions ever made on this thread.”

I think she can become enough of a celebrity but she fell out with them so I suppose not.
iaindb
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“It does look tough, though the Sunday drama is untested opposition. It will likely take away any floating older viewers.

I can't see CIN Rocks doing much above 3.5m.

And The Missing isn't as strong, but will still be a 4.5m opposition.

If it starts well, and they have a good cast, can't see 6m overnights. That would be too low.”

My Mother And Other Strangers is a wartime drama, apparently. Something to fill the gap for those mourning the demise of Home Fires perhaps?

The last CIN rocks did surprisingly poorly in the ratings IIRC.

What was The Missing's overnights this week? Isn't it close to 4.5m already. Could drop below 4m against IAC. Perhaps with an increased time-shift..

What was IAC's lowest overnight audience last year? Above 7m surely.
iaindb
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“I think she can become enough of a celebrity but she fell out with them so I suppose not.”

Plus she's a PROFESSIONAL DANCER!!!
James J
05-11-2016
Can someone jog my memory, did ITV displace the soaps for IAC at 8.30pm last year or did they displace NAT when IAC was 90-mins?
D.M.N.
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by James J:
“Can someone jog my memory, did ITV displace the soaps for IAC at 8.30pm last year or did they displace NAT when IAC was 90-mins?”

News at Ten.

Just checking now - I'm a Celebrity's opposition for the first few days last year was The Hunt, Crimewatch, Apprentice, Doctor in the House and HIGNFY. So the opposition this year does look tougher.
Chris1964
05-11-2016
Perfect night for fireworks it seems. Enormous amount of money going up in smoke around where I am-more than recent years. Could see a few dents in figures tomorrow.
vauxhall1964
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“2.5+ million viewers for a 35+% share in a post news slot. It's a mystery alright.

You are John Whittingdale and I claim my fiver!”

35% share?? You just make figures up.

The One Show last night was top 3 on BBC 1 with a 22% share ... as someone posted here. So explain how could Citizen Khan score 35%? The truth is, as we see here, it gets one third of 35%. It's a total flop and has been since series 1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_Khan#Ratings
sunbeam007
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Plus she's a PROFESSIONAL DANCER!!!”

She has had a bit of dance and performance training than some other contestants....
H of De Vil
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“My Mother And Other Strangers is a wartime drama, apparently. Something to fill the gap for those mourning the demise of Home Fires perhaps?

The last CIN rocks did surprisingly poorly in the ratings IIRC.

What was The Missing's overnights this week? Isn't it close to 4.5m already. Could drop below 4m against IAC. Perhaps with an increased time-shift..

What was IAC's lowest overnight audience last year? Above 7m surely.”

Are the BBC trailing My Mother and Other Strangers?

Yes The Missing did about 4.5m this week, but I don't think it will drop that much given The Missing' audience I think (like in 2014) will stay pretty stable.

I'm not sure what IAC lowest overnight was, but I don't think it was below 7m?
sunbeam007
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Are the BBC trailing My Mother and Other Strangers?

Yes The Missing did about 4.5m this week, but I don't think it will drop that much given The Missing' audience I think (like in 2014) will stay pretty stable.

I'm not sure what IAC lowest overnight was, but I don't think it was below 7m?”

Yes they are. It looks like a potential success if it is good and marries well with 'poppy season'.



The Daily Mail will not like seeing OPENLY GAY contestants on Meet the Parents. One of them looks like a possible judge too. Shameless.
ftv
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Are the BBC trailing My Mother and Other Strangers?

Yes The Missing did about 4.5m this week, but I don't think it will drop that much given The Missing' audience I think (like in 2014) will stay pretty stable.

I'm not sure what IAC lowest overnight was, but I don't think it was below 7m?”

They are trailing My Mother quite heavily, it seems to be set in Ireland
Dan R
05-11-2016
A bit random but does anyone know whether Play To The Whistle is coming back for a third series?
A.D.P
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Perfect night for fireworks it seems. Enormous amount of money going up in smoke around where I am-more than recent years. Could see a few dents in figures tomorrow.”

Seems to have started up here about 8.19.


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RickLopez
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“RickLopez will be pleased.”

You made my day when I read that this morning Ray!

As much as I despise the show that's a great figure, their highest in a couple of weeks and on a Friday of all days??

I wonder how the departure of Alex Jones will affect it, ratings will probably go up
A.D.P
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Don't know whether it is me but on the surface BBC One's opposition to I'm a Celebrity looks tougher than previous years:

- Sunday 13th: My Mother and Other Strangers (new)
- Monday 14th: Children in Need Rocks For Terry (new)
- Wednesday 16th: The Missing
- Thursday 17th: The Apprentice
- Friday 18th: Children in Need

Whilst I expect I'm a Celebrity to win its slots, there's enough content there to dent I'm a Celebrity there in my opinion - potential for mid ~6m overnights during the first week? If I recall last year had one or two low nights.”

Agree.
wizzywick
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by vauxhall1964:
“35% share?? You just make figures up.

The One Show last night was top 3 on BBC 1 with a 22% share ... as someone posted here. So explain how could Citizen Khan score 35%? The truth is, as we see here, it gets one third of 35%. It's a total flop and has been since series 1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_Khan#Ratings”

The problem with Citizen Khan is that Adil Ray doesn't "get" sitcoms. The character is just an idiot. If he wasn't portrayed as an idiot but just as an ordinary person so the audience can laugh 'with' him and not at him, then it could have been totally different.

Brendan O'Carroll understands that. Although Agnes Brown is an OTT character, the way she is written and acted is wholly relateable. Citizen Khan is trying too hard to be Frank Spencer, but without the charm and persona.

For me, just acting stupid for laughs is not funny. There has to be a reason for laughing. If I wanted to see buffoonery I would go to a circus.
James J
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“The way Digiguide has been recently, I wouldn't like to guess. ”

Well can you guess anyway?

In other news who's expecting Planet Earth II to beat The X Factor in the overnights tomorrow? I am.
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