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Old 07-11-2016, 19:08
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I think it's boring when you aren't aloud to point out a show has lost viewers without being pounced on in here.
What is the point of comparing the show with 2010 every week every year when that has already been dealt with.

It's like slating every edition of EastEnders as rubbish because it used to get 20m in 1995

Or comparing every single edition of Big Brother to a rating it got when it was in its hayday on Channel 4 instead of comparing it to other Channel 5 figures.
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:08
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I think it's boring when you aren't aloud to point out a show has lost viewers without being pounced on in here. It's getting to a point where there's no point even commenting on an X factor rating because the same people go on and on and on and on and on and on about demos, you don't need to keep telling me about its demos. I hear about it every Sunday and Monday at 9:35...
You only hear what you want to hear mate. Tedious.

Notice you glossed over my points in response to you here: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...ostcount=12229
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:09
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What is the point of comparing the show with 2010 every week every year when that has already been dealt with.

It's like slating every edition of EastEnders as rubbish because it used to get 20m in 1995

Or comparing every single edition of Big Brother to a rating it got when it was in its hayday on Channel 4 instead of comparing it to other Channel 5 figures.
Again, this, but don't expect him to listen.
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:11
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Stopped reading here, as that's tripe.
It's not at all. This morning is a great example of it but it's increasingly normal.

There is one poster out of the dozens of regulars we have here who I can think of that tries to stir the pot a bit, but I think we all know the story there so it's not really worth getting worked up over.

Apart from that, nope.
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:11
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What is the point of comparing the show with 2010 every week every year when that has already been dealt with.

It's like slating every edition of EastEnders as rubbish because it used to get 20m in 1995

Or comparing every single edition of Big Brother to a rating it got when it was in its hayday on Channel 4 instead of comparing it to other Channel 5 figures.
I'm not comparing it to 2010
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:13
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It's not at all. This morning is a great example of it but it's increasingly normal.

There is one poster out of the dozens of regulars we have here who I can think of that tries to stir the pot a bit, but I think we all know the story there so it's not really worth getting worked up over.

Apart from that, nope.
But that proves the point that the show has stabilised at a certain level, there's only so many times the same point can be made about it being down on previous years.
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:16
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I think ITV having a weak drama at 9pm last night was helpful to "telebox programme X Factors". 9pm was a good chance for people to catch up, either via ITV+1, but more likely via recordings.

Imagine if Ant and Dec had been on at 9pm with 9 or 10m viewers. Would many people have played Factor back at 10.45pm?
We'll find out next week when I'm A Celebrity returns... though as you mentioned very specific presenters and a very specific time in your post I guess you were alluding to that.

Six former Strictly celebrities will be taking to the floor for an all-star Christmas extravaganza on BBC One as the previous ballroom contestants return for a yuletide special filled with festive fun.

This year the leading ladies set to trip the light fantastic are:

Olympian and presenter, Denise Lewis (series 2)
Pop star, Frankie Bridge (series 12)
Writer and actress, Pamela Stephenson (series 8)

The gentlemen set to rock around the Christmas tree are:

Celebrity chef, Ainsley Harriott (series 13)
TV presenter, Gethin Jones (series 5)
Radio and TV host, Melvin Odoom (series 14)

good to see Melvin getting another chance
They mentioned on It Takes Two that it will be airing on Christmas Day itself, as if there was any doubt!
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:17
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The faux gawping at XF 2010 numbers got tedious many years ago. We all know the kinds of numbers it was getting back then, which big show is doing as well or better than it was in 2010? Actually, BGT auditions often consolidate to higher than 2010 but that's about it!

I don't think it's a coincidence that a very quiet time for the thread was Jan-April - where The Voice dropped 23% in a single year. Now THAT is what you call a rapid decline! Where was everyone then?
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:17
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It's not at all. This morning is a great example of it but it's increasingly normal.

There is one poster out of the dozens of regulars we have here who I can think of that tries to stir the pot a bit, but I think we all know the story there so it's not really worth getting worked up over.

Apart from that, nope.
There's more than one who call it the Ex Factor and have digs. EE gets a bit of that and clearly the soap fans have history elsewhere but nothing compares to the Crap Factor.
Probably because it is the GOAT of LE hits. GOAT Factor?
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:19
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Six former Strictly celebrities will be taking to the floor for an all-star Christmas extravaganza on BBC One as the previous ballroom contestants return for a yuletide special filled with festive fun.

This year the leading ladies set to trip the light fantastic are:

Olympian and presenter, Denise Lewis (series 2)
Pop star, Frankie Bridge (series 12)
Writer and actress, Pamela Stephenson (series 8)

The gentlemen set to rock around the Christmas tree are:

Celebrity chef, Ainsley Harriott (series 13)
TV presenter, Gethin Jones (series 5)
Radio and TV host, Melvin Odoom (series 14)

good to see Melvin getting another chance
That's not very exciting.
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:19
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There's more than one who call it the Ex Factor and have digs. EE gets a bit of that and clearly the soap fans have history elsewhere but nothing compares to the Crap Factor.
Probably because it is the GOAT of LE hits. GOAT Factor?
The Monkey Factor ?

or Monkey Tennis
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:20
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To be fair, X Factor overnights come out now and are barely acknowledged despite obviously being very low by its standards and not that high by ITV LE standards. Indeed, almost all of the reaction this morning was - quite rightly - to do with Planet Earth 2.

So I'm not sure people are necessarily going on and on about it, as you claim. Most have indeed move on to more "current" ratings stories. It came up here as part of a look back over the decade so naturally there was going to be some comment off the back of that, but no comments regarding XF were as shocking as the poster who saw an opportunity to make an utterly ludicrous point about Strictly not being a TV event at any point in its life!
I think X Factor overnights are still fairly heavily scrutinised on here. Perhaps not to the extent they used to be but they are still discussed in some detail. We know the current numbers are very low by its standards though, there isn't much of a story week to week in that. Indeed, the numbers this year haven't been meaningfully different to last year (the series average so far is 6.7m, at this stage last year it was 7.1m) so whilst we can always look back to what it was getting 6 years ago (as often happens) there isn't really anything new to say on that front and there hasn't been for the duration of this year's series. I would dispute the numbers not being that high for ITV LE standards, of course BGT and I'm a Celebrity are higher, but that's about it and they've aired many, many LE shows on much lower numbers this year.

The focus was rightfully on Planet Earth this morning, that number was enormous. X Factor is no longer the biggest player in town and was obviously beaten, it has been some years since X Factor was regularly posting more than 9.2m. Of course, BBC1 probably wouldn't have played Planet Earth in that slot when XF was doing those numbers, but it doesn't and hasn't for some time. But in the context of its recent ratings it did well last night. It held up well against very tough competition. Of course the number is low compared to what it used to get, but that is nothing new and this year's series hasn't done much worse than last year's. That's not to say it couldn't have gone slightly better of course. I think had they made some different choices they could probably have matched last year's average. That's the way it goes and hopefully they'll learn from it. But it does seem like there are a select few who, no matter what rating it gets, will post the same tedious remarks about how terrible the numbers are versus several years ago, despite it really not being the point any more.

Agree about the Strictly remark, that was bizarre and blatantly false.
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:20
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That's not very exciting.
Yep, very dull
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:22
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I think ITV having a weak drama at 9pm last night was helpful to "telebox programme X Factors". 9pm was a good chance for people to catch up, either via ITV+1, but more likely via recordings.

Imagine if Ant and Dec had been on at 9pm with 9 or 10m viewers. Would many people have played Factor back at 10.45pm?
Perhaps. I guess we'll find out next week!
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:29
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Good rating for The next great magician all considered, if it had launched in January you couldn't guarantee it would have done any better. You can tell some people were annoyed that it wasn't sub 2m.
Good rating up against SCD
Where is the annoyance at it on this thread ?
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:34
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We'll find out next week when I'm A Celebrity returns... though as you mentioned very specific presenters and a very specific time in your post I guess you were alluding to that.
Yes, that's what I meant.

Perhaps. I guess we'll find out next week!
The ITV audience at 9pm next Sunday could be the same as last night's combined 9pm total for ITV and BBC One.

I wonder if more people will record the second Planet Earth II, and watch it later in the week, though. Wouldn't have thought there'd be much point in recording the X Factor results if you weren't going to watch them on the same night.
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:34
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If there is a crossover between Planet Earth and The X Factor which show will be hurt more? Wouldn't be more probable that people will watch the live show live - particualrly with the lifeline vote making live viewing necessary - then catch up with Planet Earth afterwards, maybe on a later date?

So many questions to be answered next week!

EDIT: Yeah, what Pizzatheaction said.
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:35
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Any excuse for a pop, and essentially baseless.

13 million is presumably just a humble gathering of like-minded people in your book.
It wasn't a pop. A tongue in cheek acknowledgement aimed at A.D.P given the utter obsession that poster has with TXF and it's decline. I have absolutely nothing against Strictly and enjoy it more than TXF these days.
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:38
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I cant believe all the people here hating on citizen Khan. It is a cheap sitcom that is pulling 3 million viewers consistently and one that I personally find funny.
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:43
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This thread is a chore to read and catch up on.
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:44
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I cant believe all the people here hating on citizen Khan. It is a cheap sitcom that is pulling 3 million viewers consistently and one that I personally find funny.
The demented souls think anything less than 5m is a fail, despite all evidence to the contrary. Don't take it personally!
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:45
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This thread is a chore to read and catch up on.
Anybody want to start a ratings thread exclusively for X-Factor vs SCD (and possibly another for soaps) and let us get on with everything else, ie. the interesting stuff?
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:52
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Anybody want to start a ratings thread exclusively for X-Factor vs SCD (and possibly another for soaps) and let us get on with everything else, ie. the interesting stuff?
Except there isn't a battle between Strictly and The X Factor now is there? It's akin to saying Coronation Street and Panorama are fighting it out on a weekly basis!
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:55
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Anybody want to start a ratings thread exclusively for X-Factor vs SCD (and possibly another for soaps) and let us get on with everything else, ie. the interesting stuff?
Yes please!
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Old 07-11-2016, 19:57
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If there is a crossover between Planet Earth and The X Factor which show will be hurt more? Wouldn't be more probable that people will watch the live show live - particualrly with the lifeline vote making live viewing necessary - then catch up with Planet Earth afterwards, maybe on a later date?

So many questions to be answered next week!

EDIT: Yeah, what Pizzatheaction said.
I imagine last nights 'live ratings' will have been much closer than the 'overnight rating'. The X factor overnight is probably not that much different to the live rating as I can't see many people recording that to watch it throughout the night. Planet earth is different in the fact it's a nature programme and is recorded, I imagine it added around 2 million onto its live rating. I wouldn't be surprised to PE2 rose next week, fantastic word of mouth and a great lead in helps. Xfactor will probably remain static, with a slight bump for people tuning in for IAC
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