EE's highest rating for a long time. I hope we continue to see a rise now every week. I think we could see 7m at christmas then and maybe 8m at New Year with the wedding.
The Ratings Thread (Part 68)
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Overnights.tv @overnightstv 29s29 seconds ago
Affecting one-off drama #DamilolaOurLovedBoy, on BBC1 at 9pm, was watched by 1.9m/8.8% @Minnow_Films http://www.overnights.tv
Affecting one-off drama #DamilolaOurLovedBoy, on BBC1 at 9pm, was watched by 1.9m/8.8% @Minnow_Films http://www.overnights.tv
Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“BBC1: Top 3 (7pm-11pm)
EastEnders: 6.37m (29.3%)
The One Show: 4.11m (20.7%)
BBC News (10pm): 3.70m (21.6%)
BBC2: Top 3 (7pm-11pm)
University Challenge: 2.75m (12.6%)
Only Connect: 2.42m (11.1%)
The Victorian Slum: 1.52m (7.3%)
BBC4: Top 3
Rich Hall's Presidential Grudge Match: 0.66m (3.4%)
It's Only Rock 'n' Roll: Rock 'n' Roll at the BBC (R): 0.34m (1.6%)
Storyville: Being Evel Knievel (R): 0.20m (2.2%)
Channel 4: Top 3 (7pm-11pm) (exc. +1)
SAS: Who Dares Wins: 1.50m (7.3%)
Supershoppers: 1.41m (6.5%)
First Dates: 1.11m (7.6%)
Channel 5: Top 3 (7pm-11pm) (exc. +1)
Chris Tarrant's Extreme Railway Journeys: 1.20m (5.8%)
Police Interceptors: 1.07m (4.9%)
Storm Force: Winter Road Rescue (R): 0.57m (2.8%)”
“BBC1: Top 3 (7pm-11pm)
EastEnders: 6.37m (29.3%)
The One Show: 4.11m (20.7%)
BBC News (10pm): 3.70m (21.6%)
BBC2: Top 3 (7pm-11pm)
University Challenge: 2.75m (12.6%)
Only Connect: 2.42m (11.1%)
The Victorian Slum: 1.52m (7.3%)
BBC4: Top 3
Rich Hall's Presidential Grudge Match: 0.66m (3.4%)
It's Only Rock 'n' Roll: Rock 'n' Roll at the BBC (R): 0.34m (1.6%)
Storyville: Being Evel Knievel (R): 0.20m (2.2%)
Channel 4: Top 3 (7pm-11pm) (exc. +1)
SAS: Who Dares Wins: 1.50m (7.3%)
Supershoppers: 1.41m (6.5%)
First Dates: 1.11m (7.6%)
Channel 5: Top 3 (7pm-11pm) (exc. +1)
Chris Tarrant's Extreme Railway Journeys: 1.20m (5.8%)
Police Interceptors: 1.07m (4.9%)
Storm Force: Winter Road Rescue (R): 0.57m (2.8%)”
As always, thanks Mr T.
500k more viewers for EE but the same 29% share. It seems a lot more viewers are about now that sub-zero temperatures are here.
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“Idol struggled to find stars too. It had some initial success and some are still going well but it became harder and harder for them. XFUSA have 5th Harmony but I don't think they broke anyone else.
My point re SCD was more that IAC did revive some careers like Peter Andre whereas it doesn't seem to do that for their contestants. Again, maybe that's the era we are now in as Dixon did well from it and Gough certainly has.
I suspect the public just done with this sort of thing now. The shows are now more for the moment but aren't likely to create a new Jade or Nasty Nick.”
“Idol struggled to find stars too. It had some initial success and some are still going well but it became harder and harder for them. XFUSA have 5th Harmony but I don't think they broke anyone else.
My point re SCD was more that IAC did revive some careers like Peter Andre whereas it doesn't seem to do that for their contestants. Again, maybe that's the era we are now in as Dixon did well from it and Gough certainly has.
I suspect the public just done with this sort of thing now. The shows are now more for the moment but aren't likely to create a new Jade or Nasty Nick.”
Peter Andre's career has mainly been revived because ITV keep him in the public eye, as he keeps turning up on Loose Women every other week, or This Morning. Peter Andre is one of those celebs who would turn up to the opening of an envolope.
Excluding +1:
Hollyoaks (E4): 0.55m (2.8%)
Made in Chelsea (E4): 0.40m (1.9%)
Criminal Minds (Sky Living): 0.29m (1.4%)
Supergirl (Sky 1): 0.26m (1.2%)
Hollyoaks (E4): 0.55m (2.8%)
Made in Chelsea (E4): 0.40m (1.9%)
Criminal Minds (Sky Living): 0.29m (1.4%)
Supergirl (Sky 1): 0.26m (1.2%)
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Overnights.tv @overnightstv 29s29 seconds ago
Affecting one-off drama #DamilolaOurLovedBoy, on BBC1 at 9pm, was watched by 1.9m/8.8% @Minnow_Films http://www.overnights.tv”
“Overnights.tv @overnightstv 29s29 seconds ago
Affecting one-off drama #DamilolaOurLovedBoy, on BBC1 at 9pm, was watched by 1.9m/8.8% @Minnow_Films http://www.overnights.tv”
That is an unfair rating.
Audiences will not watch difficult real life drama/factual in big numbers
Overnights.tv @overnightstv 45s46 seconds ago
#darkangel won the 9pm slot for ITV with its second and final part, and an audience of 4.7m/24.2% @worldprods http://www.overnights.tv
#darkangel won the 9pm slot for ITV with its second and final part, and an audience of 4.7m/24.2% @worldprods http://www.overnights.tv
I think that it will be interesting to see the rating for Panorama last night. It felt right to be at 7.30pm rather than at 8.30pm. I know that it was still up against Corrie but it does open up that 8.30pm slot for longer drama or maybe even a pre-watershed comedy ?
#movingon returned to BBC One yesterday and won its slot: 1.09m/16.5% @LAProductionsUK @AntonioAakeel @markabeswick http://overnights.tv
#ExtremeWales with @richardparks watched by 890k/4.4% @OneTribeTV @BBCWales @visitwales http://overnights.tv
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Big programmes bring in big ratings and don't need massive lead-ins. Silent Witness on Mondays follows Panorama, which gets 2m, and does well. Back in 2009 look at the jump from All Star Family Fortunes to X Factor. X Factor is in the heart of the schedule but puts less bums on seats for ITV for what comes after it. The 8pm hour tends to have more viewers than the 7pm hour, X Factor has the best timeslot on the night on paper.
Doctor Who was a big deal back then. 13m for Christmas specials in 2007 & 2008. The David Tennant/Catherine Tate series was massive. Matt Smith's ratings were good as well 10m for his debut, 12m for A Christmas Carol. Doctor Who's sporadic appearances hurt it along with Capaldi's Doctor in my opinion but that's another story.”
“Big programmes bring in big ratings and don't need massive lead-ins. Silent Witness on Mondays follows Panorama, which gets 2m, and does well. Back in 2009 look at the jump from All Star Family Fortunes to X Factor. X Factor is in the heart of the schedule but puts less bums on seats for ITV for what comes after it. The 8pm hour tends to have more viewers than the 7pm hour, X Factor has the best timeslot on the night on paper.
Doctor Who was a big deal back then. 13m for Christmas specials in 2007 & 2008. The David Tennant/Catherine Tate series was massive. Matt Smith's ratings were good as well 10m for his debut, 12m for A Christmas Carol. Doctor Who's sporadic appearances hurt it along with Capaldi's Doctor in my opinion but that's another story.”
13m in 2008 to 4m in 2015 is nearly a 10m drop in 7 years which percentage wise is even bigger than .......
Yep that argument was daft yesterday. I thought Capaldi would be great for Who. The Comic Vine podcast guys (in America obviously where podcasts are a big thing) blame Moffat for th show's problems.
Originally Posted by Markynotts:
“I think that it will be interesting to see the rating for Panorama last night. It felt right to be at 7.30pm rather than at 8.30pm. I know that it was still up against Corrie but it does open up that 8.30pm slot for longer drama or maybe even a pre-watershed comedy ?”
“I think that it will be interesting to see the rating for Panorama last night. It felt right to be at 7.30pm rather than at 8.30pm. I know that it was still up against Corrie but it does open up that 8.30pm slot for longer drama or maybe even a pre-watershed comedy ?”
Children In Need Rocks For Terry is on next Monday at 8.30. Up against Corrie and I'm A Celebrity, it'll be interesting to see how it does. About 3m I predict, but can't decide if it'll be just above or just below.
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Children In Need Rocks For Terry is on next Monday at 8.30. Up against Corrie and I'm A Celebrity, it'll be interesting to see how it does. About 3m I predict, but can't decide if it'll be just above or just below.”
“Children In Need Rocks For Terry is on next Monday at 8.30. Up against Corrie and I'm A Celebrity, it'll be interesting to see how it does. About 3m I predict, but can't decide if it'll be just above or just below.”
I think that you are right with that number. I cant see it doing any more than 3 million up against IAC. At least it is a fairly decent alternative for people who are not interested in Celebs in a Jumble in the jungle
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“Idol struggled to find stars too. It had some initial success and some are still going well but it became harder and harder for them. XFUSA have 5th Harmony but I don't think they broke anyone else.
My point re SCD was more that IAC did revive some careers like Peter Andre whereas it doesn't seem to do that for their contestants. Again, maybe that's the era we are now in as Dixon did well from it and Gough certainly has.
I suspect the public just done with this sort of thing now. The shows are now more for the moment but aren't likely to create a new Jade or Nasty Nick.”
“Idol struggled to find stars too. It had some initial success and some are still going well but it became harder and harder for them. XFUSA have 5th Harmony but I don't think they broke anyone else.
My point re SCD was more that IAC did revive some careers like Peter Andre whereas it doesn't seem to do that for their contestants. Again, maybe that's the era we are now in as Dixon did well from it and Gough certainly has.
I suspect the public just done with this sort of thing now. The shows are now more for the moment but aren't likely to create a new Jade or Nasty Nick.”
Didn't matter for Idol or Fox as the ratings were massive. It's a TV show and its primary job is to get viewers for the channel that it's on. That's what The Voice does for NBC and did for a period on BBC1. XFUSA found a success and bombed in the ratings. Musical success is meaningless for a TV programme. If this was a record sales thread then you could make a case.
Not sure Strictly ever really boosted careers as most had successful ones going in. It certainly helped Kara Tointon and Jill Halfpenny who got theatre gig's after it, it raised Susanna Reid's profile which saw her go to ITV partly because of it. Natasha Kaplinsky got a few extra gig's out of it too.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“That's not very exciting.”
“That's not very exciting.”
Cylon breaking in here to point out you say that before the start of every series of Strictly heh.
Anyway its the christmas special when is that ever exciting? sandwiched between an hour of superheroes on Doctor Who and Babies being born on Call the midlife the last thing we probably need is anything too dramatic
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Peter Andre's career has mainly been revived because ITV keep him in the public eye, as he keeps turning up on Loose Women every other week, or This Morning. Peter Andre is one of those celebs who would turn up to the opening of an envolope.”
“Peter Andre's career has mainly been revived because ITV keep him in the public eye, as he keeps turning up on Loose Women every other week, or This Morning. Peter Andre is one of those celebs who would turn up to the opening of an envolope.”
Was he on Loose Women before IAC?
ITV's obsession with ITV Be 'talent' is a problem for its brand. However, ITV knows that an important demographic is wooed by this sort of thing. ITV2 still feeds off it.
Originally Posted by Aaron_2015:
“I'd like to think you were joking, but you probably aren't.
This thread would do just fine without X Factor discussion.”
“I'd like to think you were joking, but you probably aren't.
This thread would do just fine without X Factor discussion.”
Wasn't in the summer was it? when there was a about a page and half posts a day and weekends had about 4.
everyone back then was proclaiming the soap dead.
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“13m in 2008 to 4m in 2015 is nearly a 10m drop in 7 years which percentage wise is even bigger than .......
Yep that argument was daft yesterday. I thought Capaldi would be great for Who. The Comic Vine podcast guys (in America obviously where podcasts are a big thing) blame Moffat for th show's problems.”
“13m in 2008 to 4m in 2015 is nearly a 10m drop in 7 years which percentage wise is even bigger than .......
Yep that argument was daft yesterday. I thought Capaldi would be great for Who. The Comic Vine podcast guys (in America obviously where podcasts are a big thing) blame Moffat for th show's problems.”
When Russell T Davies was in charge of Doctor Who we got a series of !3 a year for 4 years from 2005-2008. It was only during the handover in 2009 from Davies to Moffat that we had a handful of episodes. Moffat's first year with Matt Smith was an uninterrupted series. The second year had a split series. He said it was to make it an event but it was obvious that he couldn't get them out in time because of Sherlock. Moffat said, "you'll never be more than a few months away from Doctor Who." Then after the Christmas special in 2011 Doctor Who had the biggest gap between series since it returned. Then Matt Smith's final series was split over TWO years in 2012 & 2013. Then in 2013, the anniversary year, Moffat said there'd be more Doctor Who than ever. That was a lie. It was 9 episodes in total with the 7 held over from series 3, the special and a Christmas special. Less episodes than in a regular year. Now with Capaldi they moved 2 full series in 2 years and now another loooooong break. Wonder why? *cough* Sherlock *cough*
They can't make it in time and long gaps don't help it. And Capaldi doesn't work for me.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Didn't matter for Idol or Fox as the ratings were massive. It's a TV show and its primary job is to get viewers for the channel that it's on. That's what The Voice does for NBC and did for a period on BBC1. XFUSA found a success and bombed in the ratings. Musical success is meaningless for a TV programme. If this was a record sales thread then you could make a case.
Not sure Strictly ever really boosted careers as most had successful ones going in. It certainly helped Kara Tointon and Jill Halfpenny who got theatre gig's after it, it raised Susanna Reid's profile which saw her go to ITV partly because of it. Natasha Kaplinsky got a few extra gig's out of it too.”
“Didn't matter for Idol or Fox as the ratings were massive. It's a TV show and its primary job is to get viewers for the channel that it's on. That's what The Voice does for NBC and did for a period on BBC1. XFUSA found a success and bombed in the ratings. Musical success is meaningless for a TV programme. If this was a record sales thread then you could make a case.
Not sure Strictly ever really boosted careers as most had successful ones going in. It certainly helped Kara Tointon and Jill Halfpenny who got theatre gig's after it, it raised Susanna Reid's profile which saw her go to ITV partly because of it. Natasha Kaplinsky got a few extra gig's out of it too.”
Creating music acts helps the show though. Idol validated itself in the early years off the back of Clarkson, Fantasia and Underwood. Those people then become walking adverts for Idol and it becomes a virtuous circle. XF has dined out on 1D for years. Yes ratings are all that matters but SuBo going on to smash America was a huge boost to the BGT brand.
It probably helps to encourage people to audition for these shows if they see it making a difference still.
But ratings are obviously what it is all about and the on-screen product is the ultimate driver of them.
Originally Posted by gavin shipman:
“I'm guessing a big night for this Sunday.
SCD 10m
Planet Earth 8.8m
X Factor 6.8m
I'm a Celebrity 10.5m”
“I'm guessing a big night for this Sunday.
SCD 10m
Planet Earth 8.8m
X Factor 6.8m
I'm a Celebrity 10.5m”
You've under-predicted the BBC shows and over-predicted the ITV ones, in my opinion.
From ITV Media:
Monday Top 10: Main channels (inc. +1 where applicable)
1 ITV - 07:30 PM Coronation Street 7.049m 34%
2 ITV - 08:30 PM Coronation Street 6.734m 31%
3 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 6.616m 33%
4 BBC One - 08:00 PM EastEnders 6.370m 29%
5 BBC One - 06:30 PM Regional News and Weather 5.742m 30%
6 BBC One - 06:00 PM BBC News at Six 5.358m 31%
7 ITV - 09:00 PM Dark Angel 4.745m 24%
8 BBC One - 07:00 PM The One Show 4.109m 21%
9 ITV - 06:00 PM ITV Regional News 3.938m 22%
10 BBC One - 10:00 PM BBC News at Ten 3.694m 21%
Monday Top 10: Other channels (inc. +1 where applicable)
1 BBC Four - 09:00 PM Rich Hall's Presidential Grudge Match 663k 3.4%
2 E4 - 07:00 PM Hollyoaks 653k 3.3%
3 FOX - 09:00 PM The Walking Dead 653k 3.2%
4 E4 - 09:00 PM Made in Chelsea 508k 2.5%
5 Film4 - 09:00 PM Gladiator 499k 3.4%
6 5 USA - 09:00 PM NCIS: Los Angeles 459k 2.2%
7 CBeebies - 05:20 PM Topsy and Tim 455k 3.2%
8 CBeebies - 04:45 PM Peter Rabbit 440k 3.9%
9 ITV2 - 07:30 PM You've Been Framed! Gold 426k 2.1%
10 CBeebies - 05:35 PM Footy Pups 425k 2.8%
Monday Top 10: Main channels (inc. +1 where applicable)
1 ITV - 07:30 PM Coronation Street 7.049m 34%
2 ITV - 08:30 PM Coronation Street 6.734m 31%
3 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 6.616m 33%
4 BBC One - 08:00 PM EastEnders 6.370m 29%
5 BBC One - 06:30 PM Regional News and Weather 5.742m 30%
6 BBC One - 06:00 PM BBC News at Six 5.358m 31%
7 ITV - 09:00 PM Dark Angel 4.745m 24%
8 BBC One - 07:00 PM The One Show 4.109m 21%
9 ITV - 06:00 PM ITV Regional News 3.938m 22%
10 BBC One - 10:00 PM BBC News at Ten 3.694m 21%
Monday Top 10: Other channels (inc. +1 where applicable)
1 BBC Four - 09:00 PM Rich Hall's Presidential Grudge Match 663k 3.4%
2 E4 - 07:00 PM Hollyoaks 653k 3.3%
3 FOX - 09:00 PM The Walking Dead 653k 3.2%
4 E4 - 09:00 PM Made in Chelsea 508k 2.5%
5 Film4 - 09:00 PM Gladiator 499k 3.4%
6 5 USA - 09:00 PM NCIS: Los Angeles 459k 2.2%
7 CBeebies - 05:20 PM Topsy and Tim 455k 3.2%
8 CBeebies - 04:45 PM Peter Rabbit 440k 3.9%
9 ITV2 - 07:30 PM You've Been Framed! Gold 426k 2.1%
10 CBeebies - 05:35 PM Footy Pups 425k 2.8%
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“That is an unfair rating.
Audiences will not watch difficult real life drama/factual in big numbers”
“That is an unfair rating.
Audiences will not watch difficult real life drama/factual in big numbers”
Spot on. Praise to the BBC for thinking public service broadcasting rather than ratings and putting this on bbc1 not 2.
Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“From ITV Media:
3 FOX - 09:00 PM The Walking Dead 653k 3.2%”
“From ITV Media:
3 FOX - 09:00 PM The Walking Dead 653k 3.2%”
Dare I suggest slightly disappointing for last night's episode?
There has been a notable slowing of the pace the last two weeks, but I thought this was a fairly strong episode nonetheless.
It was also nice to see them supporting their sister channel strongly with lots of nice looking promotional stuff for Mars on Nat Geo this Sunday in and around TWD.
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“Creating music acts helps the show though. Idol validated itself in the early years off the back of Clarkson, Fantasia and Underwood. Those people then become walking adverts for Idol and it becomes a virtuous circle. XF has dined out on 1D for years. Yes ratings are all that matters but SuBo going on to smash America was a huge boost to the BGT brand.
It probably helps to encourage people to audition for these shows if they see it making a difference still.
But ratings are obviously what it is all about and the on-screen product is the ultimate driver of them.”
“Creating music acts helps the show though. Idol validated itself in the early years off the back of Clarkson, Fantasia and Underwood. Those people then become walking adverts for Idol and it becomes a virtuous circle. XF has dined out on 1D for years. Yes ratings are all that matters but SuBo going on to smash America was a huge boost to the BGT brand.
It probably helps to encourage people to audition for these shows if they see it making a difference still.
But ratings are obviously what it is all about and the on-screen product is the ultimate driver of them.”
Susan Boyle's audition clip was put up on You Tube by a viewer and became a popular clip. So much do that Syco later set up an official You Tube channel. On think people overestimate the effect of an act helping boost a programme. BGT has stayed popular for years mist winners are forgettable. If you have a good show with a good mix of acts making good TV that's what gets your ratings. BGT's biggest act, just like X Factor's didn't win it. Boyle did more for the show in 2009 than Diversity who won it. Good contestants give you good ratings and a good series.
There will always be contestants for these series and some return multiple times. What Syco want from these shows is different to what ITV wants from these shows. Wouldn't matter to viewers or ITV if BGT didn't fund a big act, and they haven't most years, as long as the programme is good and popular. Which brings us back to The Voice on NBC.
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