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The Ratings Thread (Part 68)
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Aaron_2015
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“It's got nowt to do with interest levels ...

It's rather silly starting a petition now opposing something that was written into the contract from the very first!”

Well if the interest in the show was at it's peak (i.e. 2006/2007), it would probably be staying open beyond the five year lease, or would certainly be moving elsewhere.
YouView
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Series 2 filming dates are now up for Lip Sync Battle UK by the way. They are filming 8 episodes over 8 consecutive nights with the first due to film on November 30 so looks to be back in January like last time as expected.

I think Viacom are more keen to use CBB in January to boost shows on C5 itself rather than the sister channels.

LSB tickets here >> www.sroaudiences.com”

Yes the second series was announced yesterday, there will be a new series in January 2017 and a Christmas special too, it was revealed by Professor Green on live TV and got quite a lot of media coverage too:

https://www.list.co.uk/article/86111...second-series/
http://www.tellymix.co.uk/tv/lip-syn...nd-series.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/p...e-news-9215415
https://www.entertainment-focus.com/...ync-battle-uk/

They've already started promoting it online and there is even a trailer:

http://www.channel5.com/mel-b-profes...sync-battle-uk
http://facebook.com/lipsyncbattleuk
http://twitter.com/lipsyncbattleuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4aKuElEJXI
Baz_James
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by Aaron_2015:
“Well if the interest in the show was at it's peak (i.e. 2006/2007), it would probably be staying open beyond the five year lease, or would certainly be moving elsewhere.”

It may still move elsewhere but there was never any prospect of it remaining open on the current site.
RickLopez
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“BBC2: Top 3 (7pm-11pm)
University Challenge: 2.75m (12.6%)
Only Connect: 2.42m (11.1%)
The Victorian Slum: 1.52m (7.3%)”

Wish this could have ended higher, fantastic series and the kind of thing BBC2 does so well. Dark Angel really dented it.

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“When Russell T Davies was in charge of Doctor Who we got a series of !3 a year for 4 years from 2005-2008. It was only during the handover in 2009 from Davies to Moffat that we had a handful of episodes. Moffat's first year with Matt Smith was an uninterrupted series. The second year had a split series. He said it was to make it an event but it was obvious that he couldn't get them out in time because of Sherlock. Moffat said, "you'll never be more than a few months away from Doctor Who." Then after the Christmas special in 2011 Doctor Who had the biggest gap between series since it returned. Then Matt Smith's final series was split over TWO years in 2012 & 2013. Then in 2013, the anniversary year, Moffat said there'd be more Doctor Who than ever. That was a lie. It was 9 episodes in total with the 7 held over from series 3, the special and a Christmas special. Less episodes than in a regular year. Now with Capaldi they moved 2 full series in 2 years and now another loooooong break. Wonder why? *cough* Sherlock *cough*

They can't make it in time and long gaps don't help it. And Capaldi doesn't work for me.”

Thanks for this, very interesting reading. I used to watch Doctor Who around the Tennant/Smith period when everyone seemed to and Russell T Davies was an excellent Exec Producer, I think Moffat slowly lost the plot, the show became confusing which drove people away and let's face it, Peter Capaldi doesn't draw in many extra viewers.

Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“From ITV Media:

Monday Top 10: Main channels (inc. +1 where applicable)

1 ITV - 07:30 PM Coronation Street 7.049m 34%
2 ITV - 08:30 PM Coronation Street 6.734m 31%
3 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 6.616m 33%
4 BBC One - 08:00 PM EastEnders 6.370m 29%
7 ITV - 09:00 PM Dark Angel 4.745m 24%
8 BBC One - 07:00 PM The One Show 4.109m 21%

Monday Top 10: Other channels (inc. +1 where applicable)

1 BBC Four - 09:00 PM Rich Hall's Presidential Grudge Match 663k 3.4%”

Great to see Corrie hitting 7 million, seems like soap ratings were good all round last night.

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Report: CBB to follow in the footsteps of IAC and ban reality TV stars:

http://realitybox.co.uk/celebrity-bi...ty-stars-line/

It's from the Star which in this case means it might be true as they still have sources close to the programme.”

Don't know who they're going to find to clog up the show with then.

Originally Posted by gavin shipman:
“Why does Corrie get better ratings as its absolutely terrible at the moment. Emmerdale is amazing and EE might be quiter at the moment but it's still a lot better than Corrie.”

Your opinion which you keep repeating.

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“As you keep saying.”

It's tiring isn't it?
RickLopez
08-11-2016
Why does IAC have fewer contestants this year? Looks an even worse lineup without Danny Baker.
Andy23
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“Why does IAC have fewer contestants this year? Looks an even worse lineup without Danny Baker.”

It doesn't, they always start with 10.

Some more will go in after a few days, with football on Tuesday, I'd suggest 2 or 3 more will go in on Wednesday.
sunbeam007
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“Possibly but it is running out of contemporary, recurring character, 2 hour story series with Lewis and now Banks going. I presume Vera will be back next year but after that ... ? Everything else seems to be single story, single series stuff (to say nothing of rather variable in quality!)”

Both channels need a cop drama that isn't a murder mystery. Quite how UK and USA tv ended up with nobody solving more normal crimes I don't know.
Score
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by Straker:
“They've got Endeavour which is still their crown jewel if you ask me. At three (?) eps a year though it's hardly a good-sized tent-pole for them.”

Endeavour does 4 episodes a year, but at 2 hours per episode it covers the same amount of airtime as your standard 8 part drama.

Grantchester and Midsomer Murders also fit the bill of standalone story crime dramas (although the former isn't contemporary) so they aren't too short, but they could definitely do a with a few more. They've focussed more on crime dramas where one story spans the whole series recently, but they haven't all done well. They've got a few more of those coming next year too (Prime Suspect 1973, Loch Ness, Fearless plus Broadchurch 3 and Unforgotten 2). Feels like they've done a few too many, although those do sound better than Paranoid and The Level.
Andy23
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Yes it does. The Halloween Special always seem to see a spike each year.

I think they should do a Christmas special, if they don't already?”

They do do a Christmas special, but like many of the specials on the lesser channels, it usually airs a number of weeks before Christmas itself to avoid getting lost.


Good to see Emmerdale still the second soap so long after the big week, and also good to see Corrie above 7 million.

Very poor for BBC1 last night, they should really have run that drama on a Sunday rather than starting it at 8:30pm.

ITV Regional News seems to be doing particularly well at the moment considering we keep being told by some here that it isn't even a viable option in any way.
Dancc
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by YouView:
“Yes the second series was announced yesterday, there will be a new series in January 2017 and a Christmas special too, it was revealed by Professor Green on live TV and got quite a lot of media coverage too:

https://www.list.co.uk/article/86111...second-series/
http://www.tellymix.co.uk/tv/lip-syn...nd-series.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/p...e-news-9215415
https://www.entertainment-focus.com/...ync-battle-uk/

They've already started promoting it online and there is even a trailer:

http://www.channel5.com/mel-b-profes...sync-battle-uk
http://facebook.com/lipsyncbattleuk
http://twitter.com/lipsyncbattleuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4aKuElEJXI”

Found the trailer earlier shortly after my post. Is that going out on air as well do you know? Talk about a long campaign if so! But I'm glad they are supporting it heavily.

A Christmas special is a decent idea, although it could be tricky to schedule effectively without knowing what else they have planned.
Straker
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by Score:
“They've got a few more of those coming next year too (Prime Suspect 1973, Loch Ness, Fearless plus Broadchurch 3 and Unforgotten 2).”

I see La Plante has left the Prime Suspect production. Stands a chance of being good now!
Jonwo
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“Both channels need a cop drama that isn't a murder mystery. Quite how UK and USA tv ended up with nobody solving more normal crimes I don't know.”

Murder sells, that's why most crime novels are murder mysteries. If there was a successful non murder mystery crime drama, it would have done already.

Originally Posted by Score:
“Endeavour does 4 episodes a year, but at 2 hours per episode it covers the same amount of airtime as your standard 8 part drama.

Grantchester and Midsomer Murders also fit the bill of standalone story crime dramas (although the former isn't contemporary) so they aren't too short, but they could definitely do a with a few more. They've focussed more on crime dramas where one story spans the whole series recently, but they haven't all done well. They've got a few more of those coming next year too (Prime Suspect 1973, Loch Ness, Fearless plus Broadchurch 3 and Unforgotten 2). Feels like they've done a few too many, although those do sound better than Paranoid and The Level.”

I'm not keen on them retitling Tennison to Prime Suspect 1973, I wonder if Lynda LaPlante departing the series forced them to change the title or if they thought having Prime Suspect in the title would help it sell abroad.
sunbeam007
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Murder sells, that's why most crime novels are murder mysteries. If there was a successful non murder mystery crime drama, it would have done already.”

But the shows of yesteryear weren't like this. Starsky, Cagney, Magnum, CHiPs, Hill St, Sweeney, Professionals, Bergerac and obviously Miami Vice. They did well. Columbo and Morse were murder drama though the former wasn't a mystery.

You can make shows where they're dealing with drugs or prostitution or burglary or white collar crime or rape or kidnapping or armed robbery.... To some extent you'll get that in an NCIS or 50 but normally somebody needs to die in the opening scene.

I appreciate stories like people smuggling have been done lots of times and I guess producers just think it's better to start off a programme with a dramatic scene.
Score
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by Straker:
“I see La Plante has left the Prime Suspect production. Stands a chance of being good now! ”

That thought had crossed my mind too!

Although behind the scenes drama often doesn't bode well for a show. I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be on this year, so the troubles have definitely delayed production.

Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“I'm not keen on them retitling Tennison to Prime Suspect 1973, I wonder if Lynda LaPlante departing the series forced them to change the title or if they thought having Prime Suspect in the title would help it sell abroad.”

Probably the latter. It might help it get more viewers here too, for the launch at least. I think it was called Prime Suspect: Tennison at one point as well, they've changed it a few times.
Jonwo
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by Score:
“That thought had crossed my mind too!

Although behind the scenes drama often doesn't bode well for a show. I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be on this year, so the troubles have definitely delayed production.

Probably the latter. It might help it get more viewers here too, for the launch at least. I think it was called Prime Suspect: Tennison at one point as well, they've changed it a few times.”

I think they had issues with casting, La Plante also has had issues with storylines in Prime Suspect in the past especially Jane's alcoholism in the last episodes. I assume it's the same with Prime Suspect 1973.
Baz_James
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“Both channels need a cop drama that isn't a murder mystery. Quite how UK and USA tv ended up with nobody solving more normal crimes I don't know.”

It's not hard to fathom. People don't watch 'em.
RickLopez
08-11-2016
Is it time for part 69 yet?
sunbeam007
08-11-2016
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sunbeam007
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“It's not hard to fathom. People don't watch 'em.”

The ratings for The Wire were not great.
D.M.N.
08-11-2016
Just a note that there's a very good chance we will see a huge timeshift for Planet Earth II. A lot of chatter from people I know who never normally watch TV a lot of the time.
Oliver_Tomlinso
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Just a note that there's a very good chance we will see a huge timeshift for Planet Earth II. A lot of chatter from people I know who never normally watch TV a lot of the time.”

I miss yog with his daily timeshift ratings, would be fascinating to see the day by day increase

The iguana/snake clip has had loads of media attention, could the second ep increase with the fantastic word of mouth?
Dan R
08-11-2016
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sunbeam007
09-11-2016
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Just a note that there's a very good chance we will see a huge timeshift for Planet Earth II. A lot of chatter from people I know who never normally watch TV a lot of the time.”

It does seem like anyone and everyone you speak to has seen it or got it to see. I don't know how accurate the ratings are but from a purely anecdotal viewpoint I would not be surprised if PE2 is the most watched TV show for years.
H of De Vil
09-11-2016
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“It does seem like anyone and everyone you speak to has seen it or got it to see. I don't know how accurate the ratings are but from a purely anecdotal viewpoint I would not be surprised if PE2 is the most watched TV show for years.”

I think it'll consolidate to 12m.
Jonwo
09-11-2016
Nature documentaries still can pull an audience and not just event ones like Planet Earth II but also smaller shows like Artic Live and last year's Loch Lomond.
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