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Old 09-11-2016, 15:18
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The old tactic of sticking a Midsomer repeat on to at least achieve respectability barely achieved that on this occasion then.
I don't know that it had anything to do with respectability. They just had to fill the slot taken by Pride of Britain last week and football next week. The Money Show goes in there when the new series starts on 22nd.
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Old 09-11-2016, 16:04
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Tonight's Last Leg has been moved to 9pm and extended to 80 minutes.
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Old 09-11-2016, 16:16
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BBC1: Top 3 (7pm-11pm)
EastEnders: 6.69m (33.6%)
BBC News (10pm): 4.47m (27.3%)
Holby City: 4.40m (20.8%)

BBC2: Top 3 (7pm-11pm)
MasterChef: the Professionals: 2.94m (13.9%)
The Choir: Gareth's Best in Britain: 2.09m (10.4%)

Extreme Wales with Richard Parks: 1.26m (6.4%)

BBC4: Top 3
Elegance and Decadence: the Age of the Regency (R): 0.38m (1.8%)
Crime and Punishment: a Timewatch Guide: 0.29m (1.4%)
World War One at Home: Cadburys at War: 0.26m (1.3%)

Channel 4: Top 3 (7pm-11pm) (exc. +1)
The Secret Life of Four-Year-Olds: 1.85m (8.8%)
Married at First Sight: 1.74m (8.7%)

Channel 4 News: 0.84m (4.3%)

Channel 5: Top 3 (7pm-11pm) (exc. +1)
The Yorkshire Vet: 1.51m (7.2%)
Ben Fogle: New Lives in the Wild: 1.35m (6.7%)
Pete Burns: the Last Interview: 0.67m (4.5%)
Big figures for all the channels last night (apart from ITV.)

Great rating for EastEnders and an encouraging share although Tuesday is always its best day, let's see if it can sustain it across the week.

Very good night for BBC2, Masterchef always does well and nice to see Gareth rise above 2 million.

And another great night for Channel 4, good scheduling putting those two together as they're both along the sociology/study lines, very good ratings for both.

I think we're starting to see the autumn audiences properly start to come in now.
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Old 09-11-2016, 16:59
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So... opinion pollsters have got a third consecutive major political vote wrong after the last UK General Election and Brexit. And it's not as if they were just slightly out either, but majorly so in all three cases!

Completely different kettle of fish TV viewing patterns of course, but does it make you question BARB's methodologies a little bit? The idea that such a small sample relatively speaking can really give an accurate picture of popularity across a whole nation?

Obviously BARB isn't measuring what its users intend to watch, but what they actually do watch, which is a plus. However you still have to trust that they have the right mix of demographics on their panel, and that the users in question record their viewing accurately.

It strikes me in this day and age of practically everything being connected to the internet that we are not too far away from a better solution to TV data measurement at least being possible, and who knows what results such a system might throw up compared to the rather old fashioned BARB model.
Polling was actually better for Brexit than people realise and analysts had spotted the GE result and predicted it. It was a stunningly good article the day before the GE. But people lie and you make excellent points.

When everyone is writing and chatting about a particular show, you can sure some will claim to have watched it even though they didn't. This has been shown in tests where polling has shown that people lie - that's why you have 'shy Trumps'. The. You wonder how many see clips of say PE2 and say they watched it but never did.

Similarly, people will pretend they didn't watch something because it's embarrassing. It's like lying about your opinions.

How is the consolidated data measured? Is that from downloads or more of the survey technique? Sky probably have far more accurate data. It'd be good if BARB said that x people watched The Grand Tour and Amazon later said the true number was Y.
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Old 09-11-2016, 17:03
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BBC One staying with the US Election coverage for the time being.

Wonder how long they'll stay on it for?
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Old 09-11-2016, 17:13
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BBC One staying with the US Election coverage for the time being.

Wonder how long they'll stay on it for?
Until it stops being incredible ... so about four years then!
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Old 09-11-2016, 17:15
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Until it stops being incredible ... so about four years then!
I can see Tipping Point and The Chase getting a boost; there's going to be a poiint that people get sick and tired of politics and want an escape.
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Old 09-11-2016, 17:16
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Until it stops being incredible ... so about four years then!
Back to scheduled programming now. Off to the BBC News Channel!
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Old 09-11-2016, 17:16
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Tonight's Last Leg has been moved to 9pm and extended to 80 minutes.
How desperate.
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Old 09-11-2016, 17:20
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It strikes me in this day and age of practically everything being connected to the internet that we are not too far away from a better solution to TV data measurement at least being possible, and who knows what results such a system might throw up compared to the rather old fashioned BARB model.
The trouble is the panel is so small and with all the advertising regions, ages, social classes, there's so few of each being represented.

People like me who watch very little on the main five channels and very rarely 'live', wouldn't even get picked for the panel. I've read you need to be 'normal' to get on the panel, I'm an outlier!!

Hopefully, I'm one of the 7+ million connected Sky homes they use for second by second viewing data. I would welcome our household's viewing habits being used for commissioning purposes as Sky are doing now.
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Old 09-11-2016, 17:31
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BBC One staying with the US Election coverage for the time being.

Wonder how long they'll stay on it for?
Why didn't they put it on BBC2? I doubt British viewers are that interested in the US election that they want to watch it all day.
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Old 09-11-2016, 17:33
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Tuesday 9th November - revised schedules
BBC One
06:00 - BBC News Special
11:00 - The People Remember
11:45 - Claimed and Shamed
12:15 - Bargain Hunt
13:00 - BBC News at One
13:45 - BBC Regional News
14:00 - BBC News Special
17:15 - Pointless
18:00 - BBC News at Six
18:40 - BBC Regional News
19:00 - The One Show
19:30 - BBC News Special
20:00 - Watchdog
21:00 - The Missing
22:00 - BBC News at Ten
22:55 to 23:10 - BBC Regional News

ITV - as billed it looks like
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Old 09-11-2016, 17:38
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Fishing Impossible: 1.59m (8.0%) excluding HD / excluding +1
Midsomer Murders (R): 1.62m (7.9%) excluding HD / excluding +1
That at least disproves "why don't they just shove on a repeat of Midsomer Murders, it would do better" that some say every week. They were wrong, it did much worse.

Tonight's Last Leg has been moved to 9pm and extended to 80 minutes.
Why? So half the viewers miss it being on an hour earlier than billed?
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Old 09-11-2016, 17:40
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Why didn't they put it on BBC2? I doubt British viewers are that interested in the US election that they want to watch it all day.
If Clinton had won then yes but seeing as America is now seemingly hellbent on re-enacting The Dead Zone I would've thought that might glue UK eyeballs to the screen.
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Old 09-11-2016, 17:55
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Excellent ratings for C4 and C5 last night.

Was Your Face Says it All pulled or was it only a 3 part series?
Your Face Says It All was, mercifully for Channel 4, just a 3 part series.
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Old 09-11-2016, 18:05
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Your Face Says It All was, mercifully for Channel 4, just a 3 part series.
Thanks bud.

Nice for them to triple their ratings in that slot in the space of a week. Puts into perspective just how badly that show was doing.
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Old 09-11-2016, 18:17
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The trouble is the panel is so small and with all the advertising regions, ages, social classes, there's so few of each being represented.

People like me who watch very little on the main five channels and very rarely 'live', wouldn't even get picked for the panel. I've read you need to be 'normal' to get on the panel, I'm an outlier!!

Hopefully, I'm one of the 7+ million connected Sky homes they use for second by second viewing data. I would welcome our household's viewing habits being used for commissioning purposes as Sky are doing now.
That will be me out too then. I suspect digital channels are under-scored. Yes 13m may have watched GBBO but it probably wasn't 50% of all viewing. One third of people watching TV probably aren't watching soaps or whatever too.

Then there's all of the internet viewing.


If Clinton had won then yes but seeing as America is now seemingly hellbent on re-enacting The Dead Zone I would've thought that might glue UK eyeballs to the screen.
It's crazy to clear the schedules for a US result and they'll be a lot of complaints. Everybody has news channels so there's really little need. They would not have done this for Hillary and yes Trump is more interesting but there's plenty of time to discuss that.

I watched CNN and Fox mainly last night because they had real depth of data analysis and also discussed Congressional voting. UK TV won't give that because the interest isn't there.
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Old 09-11-2016, 18:26
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It's crazy to clear the schedules for a US result and they'll be a lot of complaints. Everybody has news channels so there's really little need. They would not have done this for Hillary and yes Trump is more interesting but there's plenty of time to discuss that.
It's one ep of Grand Designs - Hardly "clearing the schedule". I think housebuilding can wait a week
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Old 09-11-2016, 18:34
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Why didn't they put it on BBC2? I doubt British viewers are that interested in the US election that they want to watch it all day.
I notice they weren't brave enough to drop Pointless though.

They ran with 4 hours of necessary public service news coverage/over the top overkill (delete as appropriate) but it had to end just in time for Pointless, they couldn't let The Chase have a clear run!
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Old 09-11-2016, 18:50
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I notice they weren't brave enough to drop Pointless though.

They ran with 4 hours of necessary public service news coverage/over the top overkill (delete as appropriate) but it had to end just in time for Pointless, they couldn't let The Chase have a clear run!
It wasn't about the fact that Pointless was on; Hilary Clinton had just conceded and there was little else to say. There was nothing we were waiting for, so why shouldn't they go to Pointless?

Believe it or not, not everything comes down to The Chase vs, Pointless.
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Old 09-11-2016, 18:56
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I notice they weren't brave enough to drop Pointless though.

They ran with 4 hours of necessary public service news coverage/over the top overkill (delete as appropriate) but it had to end just in time for Pointless, they couldn't let The Chase have a clear run!
The Chase gets a head start and a handy lead-in from Tipping Point every day. That's enough of an advantage.

The idea that the ITV quiz show was remotely a factor in the decision making process behind BBC One's schedule changes is laughable.
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Old 09-11-2016, 19:06
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Can it keep going up right until Christmas?
The hour-long Emmerdales will be out in the run up to Christmas.
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Old 09-11-2016, 19:11
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ITV went straight into the Election Result last night after the news at 10.40pm, while BBC1 were still on a rpt of WILTY, and yet they still managed a better rating - although nothing to shout about.
Newsnight was on BBC Two, so BBC One had Room 101.
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Old 09-11-2016, 19:21
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The idea that the ITV quiz show was remotely a factor in the decision making process behind BBC One's schedule changes is laughable.
Exactly. The Chase is an obsession on the Ratings Thread, but I doubt anyone (other than maybe Richard Osman) gives a stuff about it at the BBC.
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Old 09-11-2016, 19:28
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I notice they weren't brave enough to drop Pointless though.

They ran with 4 hours of necessary public service news coverage/over the top overkill (delete as appropriate) but it had to end just in time for Pointless, they couldn't let The Chase have a clear run!
That's not true, Pointless was scheduled for later after The Chase but events took their natural cause and rolling coverage was no longer needed.
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