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Old 10-11-2016, 14:23
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Why didn't they put it on BBC2? I doubt British viewers are that interested in the US election that they want to watch it all day.
They didn't have to watch it all day, people were tuning in and switching off throughout, it was a major breaking story - given it was only announced at about 7am. What gets me about this argument is that every other day of the year the daytime line-up gets slagged off and people say it's boring and everything's the same every day and they need to change it all around and do something different (including the regular Bank Holiday complaints) and then the second it gets taken off for breaking news, it's an inconvenience for the regular audience and everyone will be disappointed and they should have kept everything on. You can't have it both ways. Something like this happens very, very rarely.

There might have been an argument in the past about losing kids' shows because kids can't understand it and it's important to keep them on - I remember moaning at great length in 1987 when Saturday SuperStore came on an hour late because of the Herald of Free Enterprise disaster - but they all get on these days. Grown adults can cope.

That's not true, Pointless was scheduled for later after The Chase but events took their natural cause and rolling coverage was no longer needed.
Yes, and I'm pretty sure that had we still been waiting for Clinton to speak at 5.15, they would have stuck with it and punted Pointless over to BBC2. But as you say, she stopped speaking almost exactly on time. It's pretty obvious that half the time the broadcasters are making it up as they go along - you could have seen that from the EPG where Doctors was moving around throughout the afternoon.

The one thing I might have done differently is made it a bit more obvious they were on BBC1 as well - when Huw Edwards took over at five o'clock it looked a bit weird on BBC1 and it might have been better with a quick junction for BBC1 and an acknowledgement programmes had changed. But they were obviously doing it all by the seat of their pants.

BIB - which means that the BARB system is the equivalent of an Exit Poll and recent exit polls have been pretty accurate. The last one was pretty close to giving David Cameron the overall majority he won.
Yes, and it's worth remembering that the broadcasters themselves pay for BARB so they are seemingly happy with the information they provide. If there was a more accurate system, why wouldn't they go for that?

Great number for The Last Leg, C4 capitalising well on yesterday's shocking events with a more light-hearted take on proceedings.
Yes, I enjoyed this programme a lot, I'm sure it will be a lot more edifying than most political programmes will be over the next few days, they made a lot of good points in a very reassuring and measured way, and Ed Balls and Richard Osman were both very good. A very valuable show I think. It was certainly better than the post-Brexit show where the guests were a clearly drunk Stanley Johnson, who should have been removed halfway through for being totally incoherent, and the charmless John Mann.
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Old 10-11-2016, 14:24
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Found it!
Not done one of these for a while.

Upcoming BBC1 dramas:

Apple tree yard: 4x60 Filmed
Death in paradise: 8x60 Filmed
In the dark: 4x60 Filmed
Jonathan creek: 1x90 Filmed
The moor side project: 2x60 Filmed
My mother and other strangers: 6x60 Filmed
Our loved boy: 1x90 Filmed
Redwater: 6x60 Filmed
The replacement: 3x60 Filmed
Sherlock: 3x90 Filmed
Silent witness: 10x60 Filmed
Rillington place: 3x60 Filmed
SS-GB: 5x60 Filmed
Taboo: 8x60 Filmed
The walk invisible: 1x120 Filmed
Call the midwife: 1x75,8x60 Filmed

Babs: 1x90 Filming
The comoran strike mysteries: 7x60 Filming
Doctor foster: 5x60 Filming
Doctor who: 1x60,12x45 Filming
The last post: 6x60 Filming
Man in an orange shirt: 2x60 Filming
Poldark: 10x60 Filming
Witness for the prosecution: 2x90 Filming

The following as far as I'm aware have not started filming as yet:

Broken (Sean Bean cast): 6x60
Mcmafia(James Norton cast): 8x60
The a word: 6x60
Bodyguard: 6x60
Hard sun: 6x60
Howards end: 4x60
Last tango in halifax: 6x60
les miserables: 6x60
line of duty(series 4): 6x60
lens, lies and records: 6x60
Our girl: 5x60
Requiem: 6x60
Rush of blood: 3x60
The split: 6x60
Steve queen series: 6x60
Stop in the name of love: 4x60
To sir with love: 1x90
Trust me: 4x60
Wanderlust: 6x60
The woman in white: 4x60
Three girls: 3x60
His dark materials: multi-part
Troy: multi-part
Noughts and crosses: multi-part

2018:

Line of duty (series 5): 6x60
Happy valley: 6x60
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Old 10-11-2016, 14:44
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Eastenders has recorded a monthly overnight average of 5.86m (29.5%) during October 2016, which is up 60k year-on-year. October's highest rating came on Tuesday 18th with 6.34m (32.3%) and the lowest came on Friday 28th with 5.21m (27.3%). This October has featured no Emmerdale clashes, compared to two during October 2015.

2016
Jan - 6.79m (30.7%)
Feb - 6.45m (30.5%)
Mar - 6.13m (29.6%)
Apr - 6.07m (30.7%)
May - 5.81m (30.4%)
Jun - 4.97m (26.1%)
Jul - 5.35m (28.8%)
Aug - 5.18m (26.8%)
Sep - 5.73m (30.2%)
Oct - 5.86m (29.5%)

2015
Jan - 7.26m (32.1%)
Feb - 8.11m (35.9%) [anniversary month]
Mar - 6.51m (30.8%)
Apr - 6.13m (31.4%)
May - 5.85m (29.4%)
Jun - 5.85m (31.5%)
Jul - 5.93m (31.2%)
Aug - 5.65m (28.7%)
Sep - 5.46m (26.8%)
Oct - 5.80m (28.5%)
* W/O Emm - 5.97m (29.2%)
Nov - 5.89m (27.8%)
Dec - 5.96m (28.2%)


Previous October average overnights
2016 - 5.86m (29.5%)
2015 - 5.80m (28.5%)
2014 - 6.62m (31.6%)
2013 - 6.50m (29.8%)
2012 - 7.48m (33.5%)
2011 - 8.15m (35.3%)
2010 - 8.74m (37.7%)
2009 - 8.57m (38.4%)


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Old 10-11-2016, 15:01
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From ITV Media:

Wednesday Top 10: Main channels (inc. +1 where applicable)

1 ITV - 07:30 PM Coronation Street 7.194m 36%
2 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 6.603m 34%
3 BBC One - 06:30 PM Regional News and Weather 5.882m 31%
4 BBC One - 06:00 PM BBC News at Six 5.351m 30%
5 BBC One - 09:00 PM The Missing 5.209m 25%
6 BBC One - 10:00 PM BBC News at Ten 4.485m 26% 4.00m tape checked (22:00-22:55)
7 BBC One - 07:00 PM The One Show 4.087m 21%
8 ITV - 06:00 PM ITV Regional News 4.014m 23%
9 BBC One - 08:00 PM Watchdog 3.983m 19%
10 ITV - 06:30 PM ITV Evening News 3.727m 20%

Wednesday Top 10: Other channels (inc. +1 where applicable)

1 E4 - 08:30 PM The Big Bang Theory 1.263m 5.8%
2 E4 - 08:00 PM The Big Bang Theory 686k 3.3%
3 ITV3 - 08:00 PM Midsomer Murders 659k 3.1%
4 E4 - 07:00 PM Hollyoaks 646k 3.3%
5 E4 - 06:30 PM The Big Bang Theory 587k 3.1%
6 CBeebies - 05:00 PM Gigglebiz 551k 4.3%
7 CBeebies - 05:20 PM Topsy and Tim 540k 3.7%
8 Drama - 09:00 PM Death in Paradise 515k 2.4%
9 CBeebies - 04:45 PM Peter Rabbit 506k 4.2%
10 CBeebies - 05:35 PM Footy Pups 501k 3.2%
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Old 10-11-2016, 15:10
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From Broadcast:

BBC News US Election (BBC1, 6am-10.45am): 2.10m (36.5%) Peak: 3.4m (44.9%) at 7.45am
Good Morning Britain: 980k (17.4%)
Sky News (6am-10am): 210k (3.6%)
That must be one of GMB's highest ever ratings? If not the highest! Good peak and share for BBC News as well!
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Old 10-11-2016, 15:37
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ITV's new time shifting show #ThisTimeNextYear watched by 3.5m, Also at 8pm, BBC1 veteran #watchdog, 4m & return of #supervet on 4, 1.9m

Not too bad for This Time Next Year - at the top end of my expectations having seen the excluding HD number.
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Old 10-11-2016, 15:48
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From Broadcast:

BBC News US Election (BBC1, 6am-10.45am): 2.10m (36.5%) Peak: 3.4m (44.9%) at 7.45am
Good Morning Britain: 980k (17.4%)
Sky News (6am-10am): 210k (3.6%)
I thought GMB on Wednesday morning was very good - much better than usual.

I feel they deserved that boost, though nothng like the BBC gets
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Old 10-11-2016, 15:53
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From ITV Media:

Wednesday Top 10: Main channels (inc. +1 where applicable)

1 ITV - 07:30 PM Coronation Street 7.194m 36%
2 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 6.603m 34%
3 BBC One - 06:30 PM Regional News and Weather 5.882m 31%
4 BBC One - 06:00 PM BBC News at Six 5.351m 30%
5 BBC One - 09:00 PM The Missing 5.209m 25%
6 BBC One - 10:00 PM BBC News at Ten 4.485m 26% 4.00m tape checked (22:00-22:55)
7 BBC One - 07:00 PM The One Show 4.087m 21%
8 ITV - 06:00 PM ITV Regional News 4.014m 23%
9 BBC One - 08:00 PM Watchdog 3.983m 19%
10 ITV - 06:30 PM ITV Evening News 3.727m 20%

Wednesday Top 10: Other channels (inc. +1 where applicable)

1 E4 - 08:30 PM The Big Bang Theory 1.263m 5.8%
2 E4 - 08:00 PM The Big Bang Theory 686k 3.3%
3 ITV3 - 08:00 PM Midsomer Murders 659k 3.1%
4 E4 - 07:00 PM Hollyoaks 646k 3.3%
5 E4 - 06:30 PM The Big Bang Theory 587k 3.1%
6 CBeebies - 05:00 PM Gigglebiz 551k 4.3%
7 CBeebies - 05:20 PM Topsy and Tim 540k 3.7%
8 Drama - 09:00 PM Death in Paradise 515k 2.4%
9 CBeebies - 04:45 PM Peter Rabbit 506k 4.2%
10 CBeebies - 05:35 PM Footy Pups 501k 3.2%
ITV Regional News got a nice boost yesterday. I wonder if TP did well, thus boosting TC, thus ITV News?

Corrie back above 7m. December is looking more interesting for Corrie, but they still need a big clear out.
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Old 10-11-2016, 15:54
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Thank you very much
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Old 10-11-2016, 15:55
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Bushmills if you are around, are you able to post the figures for The Chase & Tipping Point yesterday if you are in a position to do so?

THanks
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Old 10-11-2016, 16:05
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That must be one of GMB's highest ever ratings? If not the highest! Good peak and share for BBC News as well!
I think it is marginally higher than the 2014 launch figure, which must make it the highest.

Interesting that the BBC essentially cancelled Breakfast rather than letting them continue with the coverage like ITV did with GMB.
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Old 10-11-2016, 16:21
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They didn't have to watch it all day, people were tuning in and switching off throughout, it was a major breaking story - given it was only announced at about 7am. What gets me about this argument is that every other day of the year the daytime line-up gets slagged off and people say it's boring and everything's the same every day and they need to change it all around and do something different (including the regular Bank Holiday complaints) and then the second it gets taken off for breaking news, it's an inconvenience for the regular audience and everyone will be disappointed and they should have kept everything on. You can't have it both ways. Something like this happens very, very rarely.

There might have been an argument in the past about losing kids' shows because kids can't understand it and it's important to keep them on - I remember moaning at great length in 1987 when Saturday SuperStore came on an hour late because of the Herald of Free Enterprise disaster - but they all get on these days. Grown adults can cope.
My criticism is simply that anyone who wanted to watch it could turn to one of the news channels. It'd be good for News24 and means those who don't want to watch it can have the extra choice of daytime shows. Nobody loses out that way.

As far as I know sky News doesn't cross in to their other channels. They could run a strap at the bottom advising people to turn over to News24 if they wanted to and have a quick 5 minutes on the hour from News24 of the headlines - rather like BBC Radio does. If you want more, go to 5live; if you don't, here's the new Rolling Stones song.
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Old 10-11-2016, 16:34
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Consistent for Emmerdale 6.6m every night so far. Corrie looking better ratings wise but I just have no interest in watching as it's so poor still.
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Old 10-11-2016, 16:42
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The GBBO final has overtaken Sherlock (The Empty Hearse 5.88m) as the most timeshifted programme of all-time.

GBBO Final - Live: 9.94m > timeshifted: 5.96m > Consolidated: 15.90m

http://www.barb.co.uk/viewing-data/m...p-by-audience/
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Old 10-11-2016, 16:51
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From ITV Media:

Wednesday Top 10: Main channels (inc. +1 where applicable)

1 ITV - 07:30 PM Coronation Street 7.194m 36%
2 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 6.603m 34%
3 BBC One - 06:30 PM Regional News and Weather 5.882m 31%
4 BBC One - 06:00 PM BBC News at Six 5.351m 30%
5 BBC One - 09:00 PM The Missing 5.209m 25%
6 BBC One - 10:00 PM BBC News at Ten 4.485m 26% 4.00m tape checked (22:00-22:55)
7 BBC One - 07:00 PM The One Show 4.087m 21%
8 ITV - 06:00 PM ITV Regional News 4.014m 23%
9 BBC One - 08:00 PM Watchdog 3.983m 19%
10 ITV - 06:30 PM ITV Evening News 3.727m 20%
Good to see Corrie stay above 7 million, and The Missing to be back above 5.
Wasn't the BBC News at 6 till 18:50 yesterday so thats why the Regional News has such a big figure?

Consistent for Emmerdale 6.6m every night so far. Corrie looking better ratings wise but I just have no interest in watching as it's so poor still.
I would never have guessed....
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Old 10-11-2016, 16:53
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Consistent for Emmerdale 6.6m every night so far. Corrie looking better ratings wise but I just have no interest in watching as it's so poor still.
Again, as you keep saying.
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Old 10-11-2016, 17:21
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Interesting that the BBC essentially cancelled Breakfast rather than letting them continue with the coverage like ITV did with GMB.
There is an obvious reason for that, ITV Breakfast is a separate franchise so there are bring complications with STV if they continue past 6am. Breakfast is still part of BBC News.

My criticism is simply that anyone who wanted to watch it could turn to one of the news channels. It'd be good for News24 and means those who don't want to watch it can have the extra choice of daytime shows. Nobody loses out that way.

As far as I know sky News doesn't cross in to their other channels.
You're wrong, I'm afraid, because Sky simulcast Sky News on Sky Atlantic on Tuesday night - and it continued past the scheduled finishing time of 6am, interrupting programmes.

The point of having news and live programming on BBC1 is to make the channel look like it's not pickled in aspic and it's a flagship channel. If they were just stringing together pre-recorded stuff it'd look like any other channel, which would not be good.
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Old 10-11-2016, 17:45
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Eastenders has recorded a monthly overnight average of 5.86m (29.5%) during October 2016, which is up 60k year-on-year. October's highest rating came on Tuesday 18th with 6.34m (32.3%) and the lowest came on Friday 28th with 5.21m (27.3%). This October has featured no Emmerdale clashes, compared to two during October 2015.

2016
Jan - 6.79m (30.7%)
Feb - 6.45m (30.5%)
Mar - 6.13m (29.6%)
Apr - 6.07m (30.7%)
May - 5.81m (30.4%)
Jun - 4.97m (26.1%)
Jul - 5.35m (28.8%)
Aug - 5.18m (26.8%)
Sep - 5.73m (30.2%)
Oct - 5.86m (29.5%)

2015
Jan - 7.26m (32.1%)
Feb - 8.11m (35.9%) [anniversary month]
Mar - 6.51m (30.8%)
Apr - 6.13m (31.4%)
May - 5.85m (29.4%)
Jun - 5.85m (31.5%)
Jul - 5.93m (31.2%)
Aug - 5.65m (28.7%)
Sep - 5.46m (26.8%)
Oct - 5.80m (28.5%)
* W/O Emm - 5.97m (29.2%)
Nov - 5.89m (27.8%)
Dec - 5.96m (28.2%)


Previous October average overnights
2016 - 5.86m (29.5%)
2015 - 5.80m (28.5%)
2014 - 6.62m (31.6%)
2013 - 6.50m (29.8%)
2012 - 7.48m (33.5%)
2011 - 8.15m (35.3%)
2010 - 8.74m (37.7%)
2009 - 8.57m (38.4%)


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Do you use BARB's weekly TV Player Report, which collates iPlayer requests as programme averages so they're comparable with the regular figures.
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Old 10-11-2016, 17:53
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Yesterday's teatime ratings

The Chase 3.67 million average (including HD and +1) peak 4.19
Pointless 3.10 million average peak 4.65

I wonder how many people switch over from ITV to BBC at the end of The Chase
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Old 10-11-2016, 18:02
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Yesterday's teatime ratings

The Chase 3.67 million average (including HD and +1) peak 4.19
Pointless 3.10 million average peak 4.65

I wonder how many people switch over from ITV to BBC at the end of The Chase
I know I do, to catch the end of Pointless.
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Old 10-11-2016, 18:14
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I think it is marginally higher than the 2014 launch figure, which must make it the highest.

Interesting that the BBC essentially cancelled Breakfast rather than letting them continue with the coverage like ITV did with GMB.
GMB was also live from New York though, and despite people's opinions of him, Piers Morgan is more knowledgable about American politics than many. I assume Breakfast was planned to come from Salford as normal. Naga and Dan were left twiddling their thumbs on Wednesday morning as their programme was cancelled progressively across the morning until it was cancelled entirely.
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Old 10-11-2016, 18:33
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Regarding The Last Leg, it'll be interesting what tomorrow's show is like, as it's quite unusual for a topical news show like this to air twice two days apart.
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Old 10-11-2016, 18:34
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I think it is marginally higher than the 2014 launch figure, which must make it the highest.

Interesting that the BBC essentially cancelled Breakfast rather than letting them continue with the coverage like ITV did with GMB.
The launch show had 800k so it's the highest ever rating by a fair bit. A lot of that will be because Breakfast was cancelled and GMB will have been an easier watch to some viewers. It's a shame they didn't foresee that the ratings would be up so much, because this mornings programme with Ben and Kate was terrible so yet again they won't retain any viewers. It's a completely different show when Piers and Susanna aren't on.
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Old 10-11-2016, 18:35
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Yesterday's teatime ratings

The Chase 3.67 million average (including HD and +1) peak 4.19
Pointless 3.10 million average peak 4.65

I wonder how many people switch over from ITV to BBC at the end of The Chase
Did Richard Osman tweet these ratings?
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Old 10-11-2016, 18:35
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There is an obvious reason for that, ITV Breakfast is a separate franchise so there are bring complications with STV if they continue past 6am. Breakfast is still part of BBC News.



You're wrong, I'm afraid, because Sky simulcast Sky News on Sky Atlantic on Tuesday night - and it continued past the scheduled finishing time of 6am, interrupting programmes.

The point of having news and live programming on BBC1 is to make the channel look like it's not pickled in aspic and it's a flagship channel. If they were just stringing together pre-recorded stuff it'd look like any other channel, which would not be good.
OK thanks. Having the news on Atlantic is also unnecessary even if they claim the Atlantic nature of the channel makes it appropriate.

If you're going to stick any significant news on BBC 1 you're harming the news channel. Yesterday could have been a big boost for the channel, bringing new viewers and helping to justify the channel's existence. If I was a BBC executive who wanted to cut costs by removing news24 - I'd use yesterday as an example of its superfluousisity*.

*I'm having that word.
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