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It's about brining the country together to make children's lives better, this programme is measured by £46 million not 6.3 million.
Interesting 6.3 million is considered bad for CIN but acceptable for X Factor. Anything over 6m is good, especially over that length of time and against such tough competition. I'm surprised it was getting 9m before. |
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BBC News at 10 has faced I'm A Celebrity some nights this week and has managed 4m. That's robust.
I've accepted that The One Show will be with us until the end of time!
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Reality shows have always lived off some confrontation and they've always spiked the ratings. The greatest reality episode I've ever seen is and always will be the Nasty Nick episode of BB1..
The feel good factor has always been the key to IAC's success (like the Bake Off). Last year with that awful Lady C character the show dangerously lost its way and rightly the producers don't want a repeat of it this year. |
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Give a shoe enough time and it can build a gold audience.
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It's about brining the country together to make children's lives better, this programme is measured by £46 million not 6.3 million.
Interesting 6.3 million is considered bad for CIN but acceptable for X Factor. Second paragraph - it's all relative. CIN drops quite a bit from last year (but overall it faced tougher competition this year) whereas X Factor is pretty level. Its big drops have been in previous years. |
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For a moment I though this was a new proverb I'd never heard before and then I realized it was a typo.
![]() Yesterday it autocorrected Rinder to Grinder which was a tad unfortunate. Needless to say I won't let my wife know that my phone seeks the word 'grinder' .... |
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Some stats about episode 1 of Planet Earth 2, taken from this week's Broadcast.
An overnight of 9.29m increased over seven days by 2.97m to 12.26m. Within that 12.26m, there were 2.3m 16-34 years old watching (a 42% share) and 791,000 under 16s (37% share). Particularly impressive shares for the young audiences against X Factor. It would be interesting to see how many from these age groups watched both programmes and how that 2.97m is made up with the various audience groups (but those stats will not be forthcoming. We can only speculate.) |
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For a moment I though this was a new proverb I'd never heard before and then I realized it was a typo.
![]() BIB Yes, very much so. Unless it can be proved that the perceived poor quality of the main show and its fallen ratings are damaging its money making ability, there's no incentive/need for the BBC to improve it. And as the charity broke its own personal best, it's not easy to prove it. Second paragraph - it's all relative. CIN drops quite a bit from last year (but overall it faced tougher competition this year) whereas X Factor is pretty level. Its big drops have been in previous years. One point CIN did better than Friday slot averages, and had strong competition with IAC and Corrie, - now so far for the majority of the time XF didn't have strong competition, the small overlap with SCD can be cancelled out with ITV1 and catch up, and most of it was up against the lottery. Now Planet Earth gave it stronger competition, Michael McIntyre will also be strong tonight, XF has fallen from the start of the live shows, not as much as past year drops, but continues a downward slide, when we are told the new " old" panel would stop the rot. Funny Tony " Baldrick" Robinson was on It takes two, he said fir years he watched XF, now realised its contrived rubbish, in disgust turned over and really got into SCD as a wonderful show. This is occurring over and over again, he is one of many. |
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Some stats about episode 1 of Planet Earth 2, taken from this week's Broadcast.
An overnight of 9.29m increased over seven days by 2.97m to 12.26m. Within that 12.26m, there were 2.3m 16-34 years old watching (a 42% share) and 791,000 under 16s (37% share). Particularly impressive shares for the young audiences against X Factor. It would be interesting to see how many from these age groups watched both programmes and how that 2.97m is made up with the various audience groups (but those stats will not be forthcoming. We can only speculate.) |
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Zing!
Anything over 6m is good, especially over that length of time and against such tough competition. I'm surprised it was getting 9m before. For Comedy, yes. But not for big hitters. SCD, BGT. GBBO. IAC Planet Earth. All big hitters, all over ten million, all with decent consolidation. X Factor, can no longer keep up in the marathon, it's 60% of the big hitters, it's downgraded from its former glory to an also ran adequate show. But it's budget and cost is higher than the big hitters. |
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Disappointing for Children in Need (I find it a bit sad that a programme like I'm A Celebrity beat it) but I guess the record money raised is what really matters.
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Funny Tony " Baldrick" Robinson was on It takes two, he said fir years he watched XF, now realised its contrived rubbish, in disgust turned over and really got into SCD as a wonderful show. This is occurring over and over again, he is one of many.
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For Drama yes.
For Comedy, yes. But not for big hitters. SCD, BGT. GBBO. IAC Planet Earth. All big hitters, all over ten million, all with decent consolidation. X Factor, can no longer keep up in the marathon, it's 60% of the big hitters, it's downgraded from its former glory to an also ran adequate show. But it's budget and cost is higher than the big hitters. Your ADP weekend starts right here. |
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Funny Tony " Baldrick" Robinson was on It takes two, he said fir years he watched XF, now realised its contrived rubbish, in disgust turned over and really got into SCD as a wonderful show. This is occurring over and over again, he is one of many.
He's not in really XFactor's target demo is he? But he fits in with the majority of SCD viewers who are 55+. |
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So CiN falls to a very low figure by it's own standards. 6.3m is a disappointing number in itself but the competition was much stronger this year. IAC did fine - only down 0.2m y-o-y whilst every other episode so far has actually been up. It's current overnight ratings average is 8.8m. At the same stage last year it was 8.4m. I also wonder if Corrie took more viewers off CiN than normal after some good episodes and a decent cliffhanger at 8pm.
With regards to this years IAC cast and everyone saying it's all too nice. I personally think it's a refreshing change from last year after Lady C pretty much took over every episode. I don't think it's been boring whatsoever. I think it's had a nice vibe about it. Very much feel good TV and it's been very funny and entertaining this week so for me I didn't think it needed any extra camp mates - and speaking of the two new ones, I've not really taken to them yet. As for tonight. IAC is on at 9.25pm. That must be the earliest start for a Saturday night episode in week 1 for a very long time surely?! In the past due to a much longer XF, the start time has normally been between 9.45-9.50pm. Also if anyone has, or can get the excluding +1 numbers so far for IAC that would be really good. Thanks. |
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Yes as money raised goes up and is impressive then there can't be criticism of CIN on particular when Text Santa failed.
One point CIN did better than Friday slot averages, and had strong competition with IAC and Corrie, - now so far for the majority of the time XF didn't have strong competition, the small overlap with SCD can be cancelled out with ITV1 and catch up, and most of it was up against the lottery. Now Planet Earth gave it stronger competition, Michael McIntyre will also be strong tonight, XF has fallen from the start of the live shows, not as much as past year drops, but continues a downward slide, when we are told the new " old" panel would stop the rot. Funny Tony " Baldrick" Robinson was on It takes two, he said fir years he watched XF, now realised its contrived rubbish, in disgust turned over and really got into SCD as a wonderful show. This is occurring over and over again, he is one of many. |
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I love how you've turned today's chats about CiN in to being all about XF.
Your ADP weekend starts right here. At the end of the day, this is the ratings thread and it looks like CIN rated the worst ever, so if that isn't worthy of discussion I don't know what is. |
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the presenting cupboard was obviously very bare as they had to get non BBC presenters to present the BBC's flagship event of the year.
Apart from Rochelle Humes, who has been involved with CIN since 2014, on the back of her appearances as a contestant in both Strictly and Celebrity Bake-Off, all the presenters, including Rochelle's hubby, are or have been BBC regulars.
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Judge Rinder?
Rinder is on ITV but is not a face that immediately comes to mind when you think of the channel. Not that I have any great desire to see these people but it would give a bit more variety to the evening. |
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Here's some 'live' viewing for Sunday 6th November 2016:
Strictly Come Dancing: The Results: 8.62m Planet Earth II: 7.96m The X Factor Results: 5.52m (inc +1) This is purely who watched the episodes live and excludes VOSDAL. A lot of us speculated at the time that a lot of time-shift viewing was going on, on that night and looking at this we were probably right! And if anyone is interested the consolidated share for PEII episode 1 was 40.9%.
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Also if anyone has, or can get the excluding +1 numbers so far for IAC that would be really good. Thanks.
If you have anymore interesting ratings stats Roscoe please post Those live figures are fascinating! Last week's Planet Earth could well timeshift to 13m, already the rating of the year for me.Tonight I reckon: Strictly - 10.5m (Blackpool boost) X Factor - 6.2m (think it will be back up) I'm A Celebrity - 8.2m (last year's first Saturday show had 7.4m inc. +1 so should be up on that) |
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At the end of the day, this is the ratings thread and it looks like CIN rated the worst ever, so if that isn't worthy of discussion I don't know what is.
The CIN telethon is a once a year thing and they still smashed their previous record so people aren't going to be going on and on and on and prophesising doom of the back of a low by previous standards but still OK rating. Apparently (I don't know if it's true) last night was the first time it's faced IAC in a few years. With ratings generally trending downward it's probably no surprise to see it not hold up as well against IAC as it might've done a few years ago when ratings in general were higher than they are now. IAC is one of the few shows bucking the trend. |
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Apparently (I don't know if it's true) last night was the first time it's faced IAC in a few years. With ratings generally trending downward it's probably no surprise to see it not hold up as well against IAC as it might've done a few years ago when ratings in general were higher than they are now. IAC is one of the few shows bucking the trend.
Why can XF, a twice-weekly show not a one-off event, hold at 6.4m+ against 10m+ opposition, but CIN didn't manage that against a 7.2m show? The BBC need to have a long, hard think. |
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Final Score has been curtailed to allow coverage of tennis featuring Andy Murray to air on BBC One.
They should probably be back on track by news time but could edit down the Children in Need repeat if so required. |
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Why can XF, a twice-weekly show not a one-off event, hold at 6.4m+ against 10m+ opposition, but CIN didn't manage that against a 7.2m show? The BBC need to have a long, hard think. |
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Apart from Rochelle Humes, who has been involved with CIN since 2014, on the back of her appearances as a contestant in both Strictly and Celebrity Bake-Off, all the presenters, including Rochelle's hubby, are or have been BBC regulars.