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The Ratings Thread (Part 68)
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Chief_Wiggum
19-11-2016
Originally Posted by dennisboy:
“Disappointing for Children in Need (I find it a bit sad that a programme like I'm A Celebrity beat it) but I guess the record money raised is what really matters.”

I know quite a few people who really got into the fundraising and raised a lot of money for Children In Need, but have no interest in the telethon and didn't watch any of it. There's no money to be made from the telethon either- it actually costs the BBC money to broadcast it. So as you say, it's the fundraising that matters, and not how the telethon does.

I think the telethon suffered from having a very weak lineup (in terms of the clips and acts performing) in comparison to previous years, and not having Terry Wogan as Lead Presenter. I watched about an hour of it and it certainly seemed to have lost it's sparkle.
A.D.P
19-11-2016
Originally Posted by northlad:
“Will you be watching it tonight as usual?”

SCD Blackpool, Michael McIntyre, Casualty..........nothing else worth watching on.
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“I also want to see the exc. +1 figures. The best bet should hopefully be next week's Broadcast. I would ask rzt, but I think his access is limited unfortunately.

If you have anymore interesting ratings stats Roscoe please post Those live figures are fascinating! Last week's Planet Earth could well timeshift to 13m, already the rating of the year for me.

Tonight I reckon:
Strictly - 10.5m (Blackpool boost)
X Factor - 6.2m (think it will be back up)
I'm A Celebrity - 8.2m (last year's first Saturday show had 7.4m inc. +1 so should be up on that)”

I think Michael McIntyre will dent ITV far more......
Originally Posted by Dan R:
“SCD, Bake Off, BGT, IAC, all these programmes defy the "general downward trend", so why can't CIN? If all these shows can do it, why isn't CIN holding people's interest?

Why can XF, a twice-weekly show not a one-off event, hold at 6.4m+ against 10m+ opposition, but CIN didn't manage that against a 7.2m show? The BBC need to have a long, hard think.”

GBBO wasn't down? SCD is level, or slightly up. We know Friday's is a hard night to get big viewing figures in. Why should the BBC have a hard think if it raised £46 million?
CIN didn't clash last year with IAC if I recall correctly, and in the recent past CIN started st 7 pm rather than TOS, and starting head to head with Corrie doesn't help.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Final Score has been curtailed to allow coverage of tennis featuring Andy Murray to air on BBC One.

They should probably be back on track by news time but could edit down the Children in Need repeat if so required.”

Logically the thing to do considering he is having a strong contest and it was a CIN repeat that can be cut down or on iPlayer.
Dan R
19-11-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“GBBO wasn't down? SCD is level, or slightly up. We know Friday's is a hard night to get big viewing figures in. Why should the BBC have a hard think if it raised £46 million? ”

If you actually read what I said for a change...

Raising £46 million is superb, what it's all about, but they are still going to care if not enough are watching this super-expensive telethon they put on. That's a fact.
A.D.P
19-11-2016
Originally Posted by Dan R:
“If you actually read what I said for a change...

Raising £46 million is superb, what it's all about, but they are still going to care if not enough are watching this super-expensive telethon they put on. That's a fact.”

But it got on a Friday night what XF gets on Saturdays and Sundays, you feel XF Ratings at 6.2 million should be " praised to high heaven" but CIN is poor?

As said one made millions for children with needs, one makes millions for SyCo. Though nice of Simon to be part of a CIN sketch.

I must admit I tend not to read your pro XF posts, as you tend to be the only one still thinking they are great.

Been at a University and asked about XF answers were.

Quote:
“Is it on?
Is it still on?
What's that Honey G on drugs all about.
Gave up on it years ago.”

Dan R
19-11-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“But it got on a Friday night what XF gets on Saturdays and Sundays, you feel XF Ratings at 6.2 million should be " praised to high heaven" but CIN is poor?

As said one made millions for children with needs, one makes millions for SyCo. Though nice of Simon to be part of a CIN sketch.”

Friday is only really a problem for the young-skewing shows. CIN should be able to attract a large enough older audience to not be dented.
Also, it's an annual event whereas XF airs 2 days a week from August to December. A bit of a difference!

Again, great for it to make millions, but the expensive telethon losing viewers will be a concern. Why is the BBC using its money on this telethon, when the money could go direct to the charity (and spent on raising awareness to boost donations further)? Just a thought.
Dan R
19-11-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Been at a University and asked about XF answers were.”

Classic ADP.
lewiep93
19-11-2016
Oh I forgot that McIntyre thing starts tonight. Reckon 4.5m for that.

Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“But it got on a Friday night what XF gets on Saturdays and Sundays, you feel XF Ratings at 6.2 million should be " praised to high heaven" but CIN is poor?

As said one made millions for children with needs, one makes millions for SyCo. Though nice of Simon to be part of a CIN sketch.

I must admit I tend not to read your pro XF posts, as you tend to be the only one still thinking they are great.

Been at a University and asked about XF answers were.”

I asked you this the other day but if you hate X Factor so much, why on earth do you constantly go on about it? I really, really don't understand. And did you really go to a Uni and ask people about it? Why?
H of De Vil
19-11-2016
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Oh I forgot that McIntyre thing starts tonight. Reckon 4.5m for that.



I asked you this the other day but if you hate X Factor so much, why on earth do you constantly go on about it? I really, really don't understand. And did you really go to a Uni and ask people about it? Why?”

Research? Desperation? Nothing better to do?
H of De Vil
19-11-2016
Low rating for CIN last night, though not surpising. Its great that they raise so much money, but the telathon remains poor, and insipid (bar the stories being shown to raise money).

IAC did well. 7.2m isn't too bad up against CIN. Should see a higher figure tonight I reckon, for the fallout. I'm going with 8.1m.

McIntrye will likely keep viewers on BBC1 tonight even more than the Lottery shows, so I predict 5.4m for him, and 6.1m for TXF.
Andy23
19-11-2016
The Children in Need highlights have now been axed and replaced by a repeat of Pointless Celebrities.
sunbeam007
19-11-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“But it got on a Friday night what XF gets on Saturdays and Sundays, you feel XF Ratings at 6.2 million should be " praised to high heaven" but CIN is poor?

As said one made millions for children with needs, one makes millions for SyCo. Though nice of Simon to be part of a CIN sketch.

I must admit I tend not to read your pro XF posts, as you tend to be the only one still thinking they are great.

Been at a University and asked about XF answers were.”

You clearly don't read Dan's posts about XF because he's been critical of the show and its ratings recently.


My early predictions for tonight (subject to change)

SCD - 10.5
MM - 5.7
Casualty - 4.3
XF - 6.1
IAC - 8.2

MM is the only real interesting rating. The rest will fall within their recent range. SCD should be up from Blackpool.
spursboy68
19-11-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“The Children in Need highlights have now been axed and replaced by a repeat of Pointless Celebrities. ”

Tomorrow afternoon in place of PE2 I'll bet.
sunbeam007
19-11-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“The Children in Need highlights have now been axed and replaced by a repeat of Pointless Celebrities. ”

That's a surprise. A highlights show of CiN would be seen by some new viewers and would generate some more charitable donations.
Andy23
19-11-2016
[quote=H of De Vil;84618575]Low rating for CIN last night, though not surpising. Its great that they raise so much money, but the telathon remains poor, and insipid (bar the stories being shown to raise money).
/QUOTE]

The producers are stuck in the past where they think a clip of Christmas Doctor Who is one of the main highlights in the press release.
iaindb
19-11-2016
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“
I asked you this the other day but if you hate X Factor so much, why on earth do you constantly go on about it? I really, really don't understand. And did you really go to a Uni and ask people about it? Why?”

I have to ask - if the ratings for X Factor and Strictly were reversed would we have lots of comments saying "Strictly is still doing okay" or would there be lots of gloating about its decline? I pretty sure Cowell and, especially, Walsh would be having a dig. I don't see Claudia and Tess boasting about the size of Strictly's lead.
H of De Vil
19-11-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“The Children in Need highlights have now been axed and replaced by a repeat of Pointless Celebrities. ”

Thank goodness.
Dan R
19-11-2016
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“I have to ask - if the ratings for X Factor and Strictly were reversed would we have lots of comments saying "Strictly is still doing okay" or would there be lots of gloating about its decline? I pretty sure Cowell and, especially, Walsh would be having a dig. I don't see Claudia and Tess boasting about the size of Strictly's lead.”

You do see Craig doing that, though. They are a fairly snide bunch over on SCD.
iaindb
19-11-2016
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“That's a surprise. A highlights show of CiN would be seen by some new viewers and would generate some more charitable donations.”

Presumably they haven't got a shorter highlights programme available because there weren't expecting it to be delayed by Andy Murray still playing a 3-set tennis match that started three and a half hours ago.
iaindb
19-11-2016
Originally Posted by Dan R:
“You do see Craig doing that, though. They are a fairly snide bunch over on SCD.”

Okay. I'll concede and apologize. Naughty-naughty, Craig
RickLopez
19-11-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“For Drama yes.
For Comedy, yes.

But not for big hitters.

SCD,
BGT.
GBBO.
IAC
Planet Earth.

All big hitters, all over ten million, all with decent consolidation.

X Factor, can no longer keep up in the marathon, it's 60% of the big hitters, it's downgraded from its former glory to an also ran adequate show. But it's budget and cost is higher than the big hitters.”

Do all your posts have to reference X Factor?
lewiep93
19-11-2016
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“I have to ask - if the ratings for X Factor and Strictly were reversed would we have lots of comments saying "Strictly is still doing okay" or would there be lots of gloating about its decline? I pretty sure Cowell and, especially, Walsh would be having a dig. I don't see Claudia and Tess boasting about the size of Strictly's lead.”

Oh gloating, definitely.

I remember in 2009 when Louis Walsh used to put the boot in about Strictly's ratings. Or if not the ratings more the show. Mind, he's still doing that now. But back in 2009 it was justified, that was a dodgy year for Strictly.
davey_wavey
19-11-2016
Wouldn't it be nice to see Planet Earth 2 type rating for Michael McIntyre tonight? A rating to take us all by surprise again. I realise its unlikely, but it would be nice to see a new massive rating variety show/ mainstream comedy.
RickLopez
19-11-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“The Children in Need highlights have now been axed and replaced by a repeat of Pointless Celebrities. ”

Sighs.
lewiep93
19-11-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“The Children in Need highlights have now been axed and replaced by a repeat of Pointless Celebrities. ”

They get their money's worth out of Pointless don't they?
iaindb
19-11-2016
Originally Posted by davey_wavey:
“Wouldn't it be nice to see Planet Earth 2 type rating for Michael McIntyre tonight? A rating to take us all by surprise again. I realise its unlikely, but it would be nice to see a new massive rating variety show/ mainstream comedy.”

Highly unlikely but I'm hoping he will crack 5m in the overnights.

This me:
Overnight = 5.01 = delighted.
Overnight = 4.99 = disappointed
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