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Old 20-11-2016, 10:03
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Strictly definitely got 10.7m then? Is that tape checked?
Nope, tapechecked Strictly averaged a whopping 10.97m (48.8%).
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:04
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But then you do add in viewing a hour later which makes those fluctuations relatively immaterial.
True. But then those watching later are doing so because there is that option. Without that option they are more likely to have to choose one programme to watch, and record the other.


I imagine last nights TXF +1 rating was under 200k, as IAC followed it.
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:04
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Impressive for Michael McIntyre and solid for Strictly.

I still can't fathom why some felt Strictly was "poor" last night but I appreciate people are entitled to their opinions. In my mind, it's not as if there was any discernible collapse in quality from last week to this or a "jump the shark" moment. If anything, more effort went into the show given it was Blackpool week. Yes, I appreciate that the backing dancers were a distraction in the couples' dances but they were hardly intrusive, making one want to switch off. The judges' scoring will always be debated. It's nothing new. I didn't see any glaring errors with the camerawork. Unless I was watching a totally different show to everyone else, there was nothing in last night's Strictly to make one think, "This show has jumped the shark. I'm never watching again." It just feels like nit-picking for the sake of nit-picking.

In my humble opinion.
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:05
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One wonders how close the XF numbers would be to last year were it not being assaulted in the schedules by our wonderful, untouchable PSB. Probably not matching, due to a line-up considered weak and natural decline, but perhaps within 200-300k of it.
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:08
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One wonders how close the XF numbers would be to last year were it not being assaulted in the schedules by our wonderful, untouchable PSB. Probably not matching, due to a line-up considered weak and natural decline, but perhaps within 200-300k of it.
Could I nominate this a "Most OTT Post of the Year 2016"
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:08
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Nope, tapechecked Strictly averaged a whopping 10.97m (48.8%).
Thanks Score. 11m for Strictly that's a massive 4.9m above X Factor. The criticism of Strictly last night obviously didn't dent any figures! I felt it was a great show to me. Ore's over scoring annoyed me though.

I'm predicting 11.2m for SCD results tonight.
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:08
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Saturday 19 November 2016 Ratings Roundup
BBC 1

17:00: Tennis: World Tour Finals - 3.48m (21.9%)
* from 17:00-17:55
17:55: BBC News - 4.75m (27.4%)
18:10: Pointless Celebrities - 4.32m (23.5%)
18:55: Strictly Come Dancing - 10.97m (48.7%)
* 18:55-20:10 - 10.71m (47.8%)
* peak - 11.90m (51.4%) at 20:00
20:10: Michael McIntyre's Big Show - 6.18m (28.5%)
21:10: Casualty - 4.38m (20.3%)
22:00: The National Lottery Live - 3.14m (15.5%)
22:10: BBC News - 3.93m (20.8%)
22:30: Match of the Day - 3.03m (26.1%)

ITV (inc. +1)
17:30: ITV Regional News - 2.22m (13.7%)
17:45: ITV News and Weather - 2.36m (13.7%)
18:00: Tipping Point - 2.89m (15.7%)
19:00: Meet the Parents - 2.03m (9.1%)
20:00: The X Factor - 6.13m (28.2%)
* 20:00-21:25 - 5.92m (27.2%)
* peak - 7.19m (33.2%) at 21:10
21:25: I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here! - 7.98m (38.0%)
* peak - 8.53m (39.1%) at 21:55
22:25: ITV News and Weather - 3.19m (19.3%)
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:10
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Saturday 19 November 2016 Ratings Roundup
BBC 1

17:00: Tennis: World Tour Finals - 3.48m (21.9%)
* from 17:00-17:55
17:55: BBC News - 4.75m (27.4%)
18:10: Pointless Celebrities - 4.32m (23.5%)
18:55: Strictly Come Dancing - 10.97m (48.7%)
* 18:55-20:10 - 10.71m (47.8%)
* peak - 11.90m (51.4%) at 20:00
20:10: Michael McIntyre's Big Show - 6.18m (28.5%)
21:10: Casualty - 4.38m (20.3%)
22:00: The National Lottery Live - 3.14m (15.5%)
22:10: BBC News - 3.93m (20.8%)
22:30: Match of the Day - 3.03m (26.1%)

ITV (inc. +1)
17:30: ITV Regional News - 2.22m (13.7%)
17:45: ITV News and Weather - 2.36m (13.7%)
18:00: Tipping Point - 2.89m (15.7%)
19:00: Meet the Parents - 2.03m (9.1%)
20:00: The X Factor - 6.13m (28.2%)
* 20:00-21:25 - 5.92m (27.2%)
* peak - 7.19m (33.2%) at 21:10
21:25: I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here! - 7.98m (38.0%)
* peak - 8.53m (39.1%) at 21:55
22:25: ITV News and Weather - 3.19m (19.3%)
Casualty remained very consistent despite IAC clash
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:17
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Only stand out ratings for me last night was SCD, and a distant extent, IAC.

Regarding IACGMOH: Extra Camp, no wonder ratings have fallen going by it's trailer, especially when they feature Andi Peters giving his take - he's been irrelevant for years now.
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:29
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Impressive for Michael McIntyre and solid for Strictly.

I still can't fathom why some felt Strictly was "poor" last night but I appreciate people are entitled to their opinions.
Neither could I. I was with the entire family and we all enjoyed Strictly.
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:29
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Peter Kay's appeared live on Strictly last night, and I was going to suggest an entertainment format for him. However his minute airtime has caused a stir:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/o...-peter-9293954

It just shows how public culture has changed over time, no-one would have batted an eyelid in the seventies. Or if they did no-one would have taken any notice.
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:34
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Saturday 19 November 2016 Ratings Roundup
BBC 1

17:00: Tennis: World Tour Finals - 3.48m (21.9%)
* from 17:00-17:55
17:55: BBC News - 4.75m (27.4%)
18:10: Pointless Celebrities - 4.32m (23.5%)
18:55: Strictly Come Dancing - 10.97m (48.7%)
* 18:55-20:10 - 10.71m (47.8%)
* peak - 11.90m (51.4%) at 20:00
20:10: Michael McIntyre's Big Show - 6.18m (28.5%)
21:10: Casualty - 4.38m (20.3%)
22:00: The National Lottery Live - 3.14m (15.5%)
22:10: BBC News - 3.93m (20.8%)
22:30: Match of the Day - 3.03m (26.1%)

ITV (inc. +1)
17:30: ITV Regional News - 2.22m (13.7%)
17:45: ITV News and Weather - 2.36m (13.7%)
18:00: Tipping Point - 2.89m (15.7%)
19:00: Meet the Parents - 2.03m (9.1%)
20:00: The X Factor - 6.13m (28.2%)
* 20:00-21:25 - 5.92m (27.2%)
* peak - 7.19m (33.2%) at 21:10
21:25: I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here! - 7.98m (38.0%)
* peak - 8.53m (39.1%) at 21:55
22:25: ITV News and Weather - 3.19m (19.3%)
Thanks for these. Interesting to know what MOTD started with as that's a decent ITV News number actually making use of a good lead in. MOTD must be a bit down this year, there was talk that domestic football viewing on SKY had declined somewhat. Strange because the Premier League is just as fascinating as it ever was. Maybe its depressed Man U fans losing a bit of heart.

A decent night for ITV with IAC as well, but very solid and at times spectacular all the way through for BBC1.
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:38
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Peter Kay's appeared live on Strictly last night, and I was going to suggest an entertainment format for him. However his minute airtime has caused a stir:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/o...-peter-9293954

It just shows how public culture has changed over time, no-one would have batted an eyelid in the seventies. Or if they did no-one would have taken any notice.
Without clicking on the link, let me have a guess.

Click bait story founded solely on a few needy attention seekers on Twitter that turns into 'Outraged Strictly Fans' therefore representative of the general public's opinion?
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:40
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So- not far off a 5 MILLION gap between Strictly and X Factor, when in previous weeks it's been 4 million.

How long before ITV boss says 'Simon, I need to have a word with you...'
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:42
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Peter Kay's appeared live on Strictly last night, and I was going to suggest an entertainment format for him. However his minute airtime has caused a stir:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/o...-peter-9293954

It just shows how public culture has changed over time, no-one would have batted an eyelid in the seventies. Or if they did no-one would have taken any notice.
Does it? Most of the 'outraged' in that article aren't even gay men, they're just presuming to be offended on our behalf. I think we can safely say their personal experience of homophobia is...zero. Rinder certainly wasn't offended.
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:42
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One wonders how close the XF numbers would be to last year were it not being assaulted in the schedules by our wonderful, untouchable PSB. Probably not matching, due to a line-up considered weak and natural decline, but perhaps within 200-300k of it.
On the flip side, maybe ITV should be making an effort outside of The X Factor and I'm Celebrity to give support to these shows, the former especially.

The BBC took a risk with both shows. People weren't expecting Michael McIntyre to claim over 5m or Planet Earth to pick up many more viewers than the Antiques Roadshow at most. But they had the right feel about them and it's a sign of complimentary scheduling they got it so right.

It's time that ITV fight back with programming rather than in press releases (not, I stress, that they have moaned about this to date).

As for the ratings - excellent for Strictly, great for McIntyre, decent for The X Factor and good for I'm A Celebrity. I enjoyed Strictly more last night than the mess that was the Halloween show but I wish they'd cut out the backing dancers.
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:43
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See how programmes with a bit more zing to them bring in more viewers to the main channels compared with the lazy options.

Planet Earth rated 4m higher than Antiques Roadshow and Michael McIntyre rated 2m higher than Who Dares Win and yet X Factor's ratings remained static. That's new viewers coming in.
It shows the sort of ratings available if they didn't just show a lottery quiz practically 52 weeks a year, and actually ran some new entertainment shows.
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:43
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So- not far off a 5 MILLION gap between Strictly and X Factor, when in previous weeks it's been 4 million.

How long before ITV boss says 'Simon, I need to have a word with you...'
Who even cares? These comparisons are SO 2010. SCD's audience are more loyal and likely to be sat inside every evening watching TV.

On a few occasions, The Next Great Magician (brand new ITV LE show) hasn't been a million miles off matching SCD in 16-34 numbers...
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:44
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The Children in Need highlights have now been axed and replaced by a repeat of Pointless Celebrities.
Saturday 19 November 2016 Ratings Roundup
BBC 1

17:00: Tennis: World Tour Finals - 3.48m (21.9%)
* from 17:00-17:55
17:55: BBC News - 4.75m (27.4%)
18:10: Pointless Celebrities - 4.32m (23.5%)
18:55: Strictly Come Dancing - 10.97m (48.7%)
* 18:55-20:10 - 10.71m (47.8%)
* peak - 11.90m (51.4%) at 20:00
20:10: Michael McIntyre's Big Show - 6.18m (28.5%)
21:10: Casualty - 4.38m (20.3%)
22:00: The National Lottery Live - 3.14m (15.5%)
22:10: BBC News - 3.93m (20.8%)
22:30: Match of the Day - 3.03m (26.1%)

ITV (inc. +1)
17:30: ITV Regional News - 2.22m (13.7%)
17:45: ITV News and Weather - 2.36m (13.7%)
18:00: Tipping Point - 2.89m (15.7%)
19:00: Meet the Parents - 2.03m (9.1%)
20:00: The X Factor - 6.13m (28.2%)
* 20:00-21:25 - 5.92m (27.2%)
* peak - 7.19m (33.2%) at 21:10
21:25: I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here! - 7.98m (38.0%)
* peak - 8.53m (39.1%) at 21:55
22:25: ITV News and Weather - 3.19m (19.3%)
So how did I do?

You clearly don't read Dan's posts about XF because he's been critical of the show and its ratings recently.


My early predictions for tonight (subject to change)

SCD - 10.5
MM - 5.7
Casualty - 4.3
XF - 6.1
IAC - 8.2

MM is the only real interesting rating. The rest will fall within their recent range. SCD should be up from Blackpool.
I'll take that!

XF started 3 minutes late and that's the difference between 5.9 and 6.1. Interesting to hear that the adverts kept it down to 6.1 but it's pretty clear now where XF is. There are 7.2m watching XF as that peak shows. It's the same number as the consolidated figure. They're loyal to it despite what is on the other channels.
The only difference between Saturday and Sunday is that more of them watch it all live on Sunday which makes sense for results shows.

XF ratings are climbing a little every week now but the key is that we know its core. More importantly, the actual show is much improved with the older songs, jovial feel and the audience dancing. It feels like a party now. That bodes well for next year. The extra authority of Dermot helps the show too. Dermot is such a good host, it's particularly noticeable when he comes on straight after Tess.

I really like MM so it's no surprise to me that he did well. This is a show similar to the Peter Kay and Friends show that I talked about. It's why I said 321 would work today. People like buffet TV which provides bits of everything.

Great ratings fof SCD - if people are getting annoyed by aspects of it then it'll show next year if the issues carry on. You don't tend to give up on a show this late on.

The rest of the ratings were very normal and hence predictable. All of these shows have a core audience. IAC will consolidate to 9m before tonight's show. It's clearly up on 2015.
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:45
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Without clicking on the link, let me have a guess.

Click bait story founded solely on a few needy attention seekers on Twitter that turns into 'Outraged Strictly Fans' therefore representative of the general public's opinion?
BINGO!!

Got it in one - a "story" trawled from a small number of Tweets.
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:46
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XF started 3 minutes late and that's the difference between 5.9 and 6.1. Interesting to hear that the adverts kept it down to 6.1 but it's pretty clear now where XF is. There are 7.2m watching XF as that peak shows. It's the same number as the consolidated figure. They're loyal to it despite what is on the other channels.
The only difference between Saturday and Sunday is that more of them watch it all live on Sunday which makes sense for results shows.

XF ratings are climbing a little every week now but the key is that we know its core. More importantly, the actual show is much improved with the older songs, jovial feel and the audience dancing. It feels like a party now. That bodes well for next year. The extra authority of Dermot helps the show too. Dermot is such a good host, it's particularly when he comes on straight after Tess.

I really like MM so it's no surprise to me that he did well. This is a show similar to the Peter Kay and Friends show that I talked about. It's why I said 321 would work today. People like buffet TV which provides bits of everything.

Great ratings fof SCD - if people are getting annoyed by aspects of it then it'll show next year if the issues carries on. You don't tend to give up on a show this late on.

The rest of the ratings were very normal and hence predictable. All of these shows have a core audience. IAC will consolidate to 9m before tonight's show. It's clearly up on 2015.
Solid analysis as ever.
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:47
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Hi lewiep93

Do you have the Saturday peak-time shares for the main channels?

I'm not sure if you have access to these or if they have to be calculated but would very much appreciate having a gander.

Thanks in advance
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:49
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Hi lewiep93

Do you have the Saturday peak-time shares for the main channels?

I'm not sure if you have access to these or if they have to be calculated but would very much appreciate having a gander.

Thanks in advance
Hi, sorry don't have those. The figures came from rzt's breakdowns on the other place.

Would be interesting to see those actually.
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:55
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Peter Kay's appeared live on Strictly last night, and I was going to suggest an entertainment format for him. However his minute airtime has caused a stir:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/o...-peter-9293954

It just shows how public culture has changed over time, no-one would have batted an eyelid in the seventies. Or if they did no-one would have taken any notice.
Oh that's the same as XF is Fixed articles that the tabs produce based off a handful of tweets. Yesterday there was an Is IAC Fixed? one.
There were numerous ones claiming Wayne Bridge cheated on his eating challenge. I only watched Friday's IAC last night so could look out for it - he didn't and it was clear he didn't.

You could produce an article based on yesterday's posts here to read...
Viewers Slam SCD

Pure click-bait. It works too.
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:55
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Hi, sorry don't have those. The figures came from rzt's breakdowns on the other place.

Would be interesting to see those actually.
No problem and thanks for letting me know. Yeah agreed would be very interesting to see. I'll check out the other place (I think I know what that is)
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