Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Don't think it is. Last year Djokovic beat Federer 6-3, 6-4. Must be a best of three.”
“Don't think it is. Last year Djokovic beat Federer 6-3, 6-4. Must be a best of three.”
Yep, you're right. Murray 2-0
The Ratings Thread (Part 68)
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Originally Posted by Dan R:
“Well it's a cosy variety show in a theatre, the sort of thing you'd enjoy snuggled up at Christmas with champagne and mince pies. But maybe that's just me.
And why not schedule cooperatively? ITV basically wave the white flag against SCD right now, so the BBC could return the favour in the 8pm hour.”
“Well it's a cosy variety show in a theatre, the sort of thing you'd enjoy snuggled up at Christmas with champagne and mince pies. But maybe that's just me.
And why not schedule cooperatively? ITV basically wave the white flag against SCD right now, so the BBC could return the favour in the 8pm hour.”
Why should the BBC just schedule weak programmes against TXF? They have always scheduled competitively against it. Last year DW was on against it, but wasn't overly successful - no one seemed to care!
Maybe if ITV didn't schedule Victoria against Poldark, the BBC may have waved a white flag. Or, if ITV stopped clashing ED with EE, the BBC may wave a white flag.
ITV are not waving a white flag anyway. They are trying new formats out. Now, if one of those formats took off and got 6m viewers, it would dent SCD's ratings a little. If ITV does get a success in the next year or two, do you think they'll refrain from scheduling against SCD? Of course not. So why should the BBC just roll over and give in. They've found another LE hit. I say hallelujah for that, because in this day and age, how often does that happen?
By your logic, should ITV not schedule The Voice against Let it Shine in case Let It Shine suffers?
I seem to remember ITV complained to the government that it was ''unfair'' the BBC scheduled their News at Ten against the ITV version. But it was perfectly clear the majority of viewers preferred the BBC.
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Why should the BBC just schedule weak programmes against TXF? They have always scheduled competitively against it. Last year DW was on against it, but wasn't overly successful - no one seemed to care!
Maybe if ITV didn't schedule Victoria against Poldark, the BBC may have waved a white flag. Or, if ITV stopped clashing ED with EE, the BBC may wave a white flag.
ITV are not waving a white flag anyway. They are trying new formats out. Now, if one of those formats took off and got 6m viewers, it would dent SCD's ratings a little. If ITV does get a success in the next year or two, do you think they'll refrain from scheduling against SCD? Of course not. So why should the BBC just roll over and give in. They've found another LE hit. I say hallelujah for that, because in this day and age, how often does that happen?
By your logic, should ITV not schedule The Voice against Let it Shine in case Let It Shine suffers?”
“Why should the BBC just schedule weak programmes against TXF? They have always scheduled competitively against it. Last year DW was on against it, but wasn't overly successful - no one seemed to care!
Maybe if ITV didn't schedule Victoria against Poldark, the BBC may have waved a white flag. Or, if ITV stopped clashing ED with EE, the BBC may wave a white flag.
ITV are not waving a white flag anyway. They are trying new formats out. Now, if one of those formats took off and got 6m viewers, it would dent SCD's ratings a little. If ITV does get a success in the next year or two, do you think they'll refrain from scheduling against SCD? Of course not. So why should the BBC just roll over and give in. They've found another LE hit. I say hallelujah for that, because in this day and age, how often does that happen?
By your logic, should ITV not schedule The Voice against Let it Shine in case Let It Shine suffers?”
Great post!
Look EX Factor is weak, viewers avoiding it, XF is surrounded by top performing shows, Strictly, Planet Earth, IAC and Michael McIntyre, but the viewers are not engaged, in fact they avoid it! When XF was on its own in late August, and Mid September its ratings were still very bad.
We had all the excuses, August bank holiday, barbecues, etc, but XF only went up, when SCD returned.
There are ten million viewers who want to watch something good, and not watch XF.
So now the recommendation is put nothing against XF to help it, it won't, you could out the test card against XF and it will not force viewers to watch XF.
The BBC has been great, knowing how weak it is has scheduled quality programming such as Michael McIntyre and Planet Earth2.
It's about choice, it's about freedom, and " if" anyone wants to watch two shows there is recording and catch up and +1. But the viewers choose not to watch.
It is so annoying that a few still make excuses for this past its shelf life Show. A case of the emperors new clothes, a few do not " see it" the majority now do see XF for what it is and switched off.
Originally Posted by ftv:
“I seem to remember ITV complained to the government that it was ''unfair'' the BBC scheduled their News at Ten against the ITV version. But it was perfectly clear the majority of viewers preferred the BBC.”
“I seem to remember ITV complained to the government that it was ''unfair'' the BBC scheduled their News at Ten against the ITV version. But it was perfectly clear the majority of viewers preferred the BBC.”
Not quite sure it went quite exactly like that, but I'm sure you'll be posting that in this situation every time it comes up for the next 10 years
Wife who normally VOSDALs SCD, XFactor and IAC is still watching the tennis (extended interview with Andrew Murray) and will not bother with SCD (she reads the spoilers) and go straight to the other two.
Wonder if SCD will drop much? I expect not.
Wonder if SCD will drop much? I expect not.
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Wife who normally VOSDALs SCD, XFactor and IAC is still watching the tennis (extended interview with Andrew Murray) and will not bother with SCD (she reads the spoilers) and go straight to the other two.
Wonder if SCD will drop much? I expect not.”
“Wife who normally VOSDALs SCD, XFactor and IAC is still watching the tennis (extended interview with Andrew Murray) and will not bother with SCD (she reads the spoilers) and go straight to the other two.
Wonder if SCD will drop much? I expect not.”
Only the die hard fans will find tennis 'tucked away' on BBC2
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Great post!
Look EX Factor is weak, viewers avoiding it, XF is surrounded by top performing shows, Strictly, Planet Earth, IAC and Michael McIntyre, but the viewers are not engaged, in fact they avoid it! When XF was on its own in late August, and Mid September its ratings were still very bad.
We had all the excuses, August bank holiday, barbecues, etc, but XF only went up, when SCD returned.
There are ten million viewers who want to watch something good, and not watch XF.
So now the recommendation is put nothing against XF to help it, it won't, you could out the test card against XF and it will not force viewers to watch XF.
The BBC has been great, knowing how weak it is has scheduled quality programming such as Michael McIntyre and Planet Earth2.
It's about choice, it's about freedom, and " if" anyone wants to watch two shows there is recording and catch up and +1. But the viewers choose not to watch.
It is so annoying that a few still make excuses for this past its shelf life Show. A case of the emperors new clothes, a few do not " see it" the majority now do see XF for what it is and switched off.”
“Great post!
Look EX Factor is weak, viewers avoiding it, XF is surrounded by top performing shows, Strictly, Planet Earth, IAC and Michael McIntyre, but the viewers are not engaged, in fact they avoid it! When XF was on its own in late August, and Mid September its ratings were still very bad.
We had all the excuses, August bank holiday, barbecues, etc, but XF only went up, when SCD returned.
There are ten million viewers who want to watch something good, and not watch XF.
So now the recommendation is put nothing against XF to help it, it won't, you could out the test card against XF and it will not force viewers to watch XF.
The BBC has been great, knowing how weak it is has scheduled quality programming such as Michael McIntyre and Planet Earth2.
It's about choice, it's about freedom, and " if" anyone wants to watch two shows there is recording and catch up and +1. But the viewers choose not to watch.
It is so annoying that a few still make excuses for this past its shelf life Show. A case of the emperors new clothes, a few do not " see it" the majority now do see XF for what it is and switched off.”
It is good that the BBC put on strong programmes against XF. People are clearly enjoying them. That is great.
I'm sure you are also pleased to see that these quality programmes haven't affected the XF's ratings though. If anything, they've gone up a tad.
So everybody seems to be happy.
Rejoice.
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Great post!
Look EX Factor is weak, viewers avoiding it, XF is surrounded by top performing shows, Strictly, Planet Earth, IAC and Michael McIntyre, but the viewers are not engaged, in fact they avoid it! When XF was on its own in late August, and Mid September its ratings were still very bad.
We had all the excuses, August bank holiday, barbecues, etc, but XF only went up, when SCD returned.
There are ten million viewers who want to watch something good, and not watch XF.
So now the recommendation is put nothing against XF to help it, it won't, you could out the test card against XF and it will not force viewers to watch XF.
The BBC has been great, knowing how weak it is has scheduled quality programming such as Michael McIntyre and Planet Earth2.
It's about choice, it's about freedom, and " if" anyone wants to watch two shows there is recording and catch up and +1. But the viewers choose not to watch.
It is so annoying that a few still make excuses for this past its shelf life Show. A case of the emperors new clothes, a few do not " see it" the majority now do see XF for what it is and switched off.”
“Great post!
Look EX Factor is weak, viewers avoiding it, XF is surrounded by top performing shows, Strictly, Planet Earth, IAC and Michael McIntyre, but the viewers are not engaged, in fact they avoid it! When XF was on its own in late August, and Mid September its ratings were still very bad.
We had all the excuses, August bank holiday, barbecues, etc, but XF only went up, when SCD returned.
There are ten million viewers who want to watch something good, and not watch XF.
So now the recommendation is put nothing against XF to help it, it won't, you could out the test card against XF and it will not force viewers to watch XF.
The BBC has been great, knowing how weak it is has scheduled quality programming such as Michael McIntyre and Planet Earth2.
It's about choice, it's about freedom, and " if" anyone wants to watch two shows there is recording and catch up and +1. But the viewers choose not to watch.
It is so annoying that a few still make excuses for this past its shelf life Show. A case of the emperors new clothes, a few do not " see it" the majority now do see XF for what it is and switched off.”
You slightly misunderstood my post. I was not referring to the quality or popularity of TXF because in my view, if people enjoy it, then fair play to them. It still gets over 6 million viewers, and if you consider how the format is diminishing across the world, I'd say it is still a good hit for ITV. No other programme across commercial TV gets those sort of figures. I don't want to be drawn into the XF criticisms because I don't wantch it so can't realistically comment. My post was purely about whether the BBC should be competitive against it. That's it.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Only the die hard fans will find tennis 'tucked away' on BBC2”
“Only the die hard fans will find tennis 'tucked away' on BBC2”
I expect you're right, although being on both Sky and BBC may have boosted it. Quite sad really for what turned out to be an historic night for British tennis.
The BBC acts like an unofficial regulator within our broadcasting landscape. It means we all benefit as it forces up standards.
If The Ex Factor 'improves' as a result of the strong competition presented by the BBC, that is a good thing surely? It means a better show for Ex Factor viewers, potentially more viewers too which makes the advertisers happy.
The BBC's job is to provide the best service it can for the benefit of viewers, not be subservient to ITV.
If The Ex Factor 'improves' as a result of the strong competition presented by the BBC, that is a good thing surely? It means a better show for Ex Factor viewers, potentially more viewers too which makes the advertisers happy.
The BBC's job is to provide the best service it can for the benefit of viewers, not be subservient to ITV.
Honey G through to the quarter finals even after being in the bottom two. The ratings are going to sink even further next week...
Originally Posted by Ash_M1:
“The BBC acts like an unofficial regulator within our broadcasting landscape. It means we all benefit as it forces up standards.
If The Ex Factor 'improves' as a result of the strong competition presented by the BBC, that is a good thing surely? It means a better show for Ex Factor viewers, potentially more viewers too which makes the advertisers happy.
The BBC's job is to provide the best service it can for the benefit of viewers, not be subservient to ITV.”
“The BBC acts like an unofficial regulator within our broadcasting landscape. It means we all benefit as it forces up standards.
If The Ex Factor 'improves' as a result of the strong competition presented by the BBC, that is a good thing surely? It means a better show for Ex Factor viewers, potentially more viewers too which makes the advertisers happy.
The BBC's job is to provide the best service it can for the benefit of viewers, not be subservient to ITV.”
Your immature usage of the "Ex Factor" invalidates what valid point you may be making.
Originally Posted by Rob1985:
“Honey G through to the quarter finals even after being in the bottom two. The ratings are going to sink even further next week...”
“Honey G through to the quarter finals even after being in the bottom two. The ratings are going to sink even further next week...”
What a misguided comment. For the ratings to "drop even further" they'd need to have been down this week. Except, it was up on the previous Saturday.
Originally Posted by Rob1985:
“Honey G through to the quarter finals even after being in the bottom two. The ratings are going to sink even further next week...”
“Honey G through to the quarter finals even after being in the bottom two. The ratings are going to sink even further next week...”
It'll be funny if they do given that the guy she beat is the one everyone has moaned about being saved for weeks.
I'm more amused at the prospect of Louis Loves next week.
Originally Posted by derek500:
“I expect you're right, although being on both Sky and BBC may have boosted it. Quite sad really for what turned out to be an historic night for British tennis.”
“I expect you're right, although being on both Sky and BBC may have boosted it. Quite sad really for what turned out to be an historic night for British tennis.”
i am sure BBC would loved to of moved it to BBC1.
At least those tennis fans had a free to air opportunity to watch it if they wanted to.
I expect SCD may see a very slight dip.
Originally Posted by Rob1985:
“Honey G through to the quarter finals even after being in the bottom two. The ratings are going to sink even further next week...”
“Honey G through to the quarter finals even after being in the bottom two. The ratings are going to sink even further next week...”
I wish you'd used the spoiler option.
If she beat Ryan - good. He's had enough chances.
But I'm sure they'll be some click-bait articles of people calling it a joke/diagrace'/farce/fix etc and they'll be never watching it again.
Somebody will post the link on here.
I wonder if Homes under the Hammer's ratings will increase with all the promo it's getting on ITV. Same as Judge Rinder on Strictly.
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“I wish you'd used the spoiler option.
If she beat Ryan - good. He's had enough chances.
But I'm sure they'll be some click-bait articles of people calling it a joke/diagrace'/farce/fix etc and they'll be never watching it again.
Somebody will post the link on here.”
“I wish you'd used the spoiler option.
If she beat Ryan - good. He's had enough chances.
But I'm sure they'll be some click-bait articles of people calling it a joke/diagrace'/farce/fix etc and they'll be never watching it again.
Somebody will post the link on here.”
You'll be there next Saturday night, come what may
Originally Posted by Rob1985:
“Why? It's been aired?”
“Why? It's been aired?”
Only just. I've never noticed results for SCD or Apprentice or GBBO or XF appearing quickly on this thread but maybe I'm wrong.
Originally Posted by Jokanovic:
“You'll be there next Saturday night, come what may”
“You'll be there next Saturday night, come what may
”
I ain't seen yesterday's yet. Or yesterday's IAC. Or even last week's PE2 or Fridays Grand Tour.
I clearly need to sort my sugar out.
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“Which means it is going to be on the day after Rillington Place. That's unfortunate as there are similarities between the two.
Strictly spoiler and question below..
”
“Which means it is going to be on the day after Rillington Place. That's unfortunate as there are similarities between the two.
Strictly spoiler and question below..
Spoiler
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“Nope!”
“Nope!”
The judges wish they could. I think it's safe to say it's not fixed by the show.
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“Only just. I've never noticed results for SCD or Apprentice or GBBO or XF appearing quickly on this thread but maybe I'm wrong.
I ain't seen yesterday's yet. Or yesterday's IAC. Or even last week's PE2 or Fridays Grand Tour.
I clearly need to sort my sugar out.”
“Only just. I've never noticed results for SCD or Apprentice or GBBO or XF appearing quickly on this thread but maybe I'm wrong.
I ain't seen yesterday's yet. Or yesterday's IAC. Or even last week's PE2 or Fridays Grand Tour.
I clearly need to sort my sugar out.”
I guess I'd better check with you in future first, just in case you haven't seen it yet.
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