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Actually i'm a new pointless viewer so could care less about the repeats, not sure why i'd never seen it until recently. On the other hand the Chase is total crap as far as I can see.
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a vomit-inducing Simon Cowell guest spot
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ITV have also ordered a new 6 part physical gameshow 'Bigheads': Quote:
Bigheads, unveiled at the ITV Gala yesterday (24 November), sees ordinary members of the public donning enormous celebrity heads before competing in a series of physical games in front of a live audience. More on Broadcast.
The 6 x 60-minute series will be presented by comedian Jason Mansford and will air in a primetime weekend slot next year. Steiner said the show took inspiration from classic BBC gameshow It’s a Knockout [pictured] and added an element of satire. We felt the need for comedy and warmth – we looked back at past shows which were fun and everyone was having a good a time like It’s a Knockout and mixed that up with other genres,” Steiner said. “Bringing satire into it made it appeal to both kids and adults,” Wood added. “Donald Trump won the US election but he might not look quite so smug after being rugby tackled by Adele and Albert Einstein.” |
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From Broadcast:
I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here!: 8.2m (34.9%) The Apprentice: 4.7m (19.8%) Who Do You Think You Are?: Danny Dyer: 4.2m (19.6%) Grand Designs: House of the Year: 1.5m (6.2%) Close to the Enemy: 1.3m (5.5%) The Secret Life of the Zoo: 1.2m (5.7%) I'm a Celebrity...Extra Camp: 632k (4.2%) Jack Taylor: 530k (2.8%) inc. +1 where applicable |
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ITV have also ordered a new 6 part physical gameshow 'Bigheads':
More on Broadcast. After years in the doldrums, could ITV LE finally be about to start to turn the corner? Let's hope.
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Also this being ITV they'll probably waste weeks on Stephen Mulhern etc, at least in the first series, and Ant & Dec will no doubt host the week before BGT launches, complete with a vomit-inducing Simon Cowell guest spot or four.
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Sounds fantastic
After years in the doldrums, could ITV LE finally be about to start to turn the corner? Let's hope. |
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I know Steve Williams always likes to point out that the UK's relative lack of real 'a listers' makes it much harder to sustain a nightly entertainment show here than in the US, and he'll probably be proven right in the long run, but it's high time someone at least gave it a good go. It's not like the US shows book Taylor Swift and Tom Hanks every night anyway: last night, for example, Jimmy Fallon interviewed Kevin James and Tim Gunn.
The problem I think with a UK equivalent of the nightly chat show is not so much there aren't enough guests, but there isn't enough money, so you have small writing teams and small production teams and they run out of energy and ideas so quickly. Graham Norton did it every night for eighteen months and was OK, but he got a bit fed up with the routine quite quickly and it probably ran out of ideas too quickly because there was only a small writing team. In America they have enormous production teams generating ideas and they're also paying the presenters millions and millons of dollars to think about nothing else. The other difference between British and American telly when it comes to chat shows is that in America all the channels show the same programmes every day. People fit the US chat shows into their routines because a) they're on really late and b) all the other channels are always showing the same programmes, so there's no real floating audience. If you watch Fallon one night, you probably watch it every night because it's up against the same things ever night. But here, especially at ten o'clock, other channels always show different things. You might be available at ten o'clock one night, but another night there'd be something else on. It's hard to get a regular audience because it's hard to get people to put stuff in their routine. I know there's the Ten O'Clock News but people who are avoiding the news (which presumably will be this show's audience) are all over the place. I think it's too hard to get people into a routine unless a show is very early in the evening (like The One Show) or very late. I mean, I like the idea of it, and I hope it works for them if only to add a bit of variety to the schedule and extend it a bit. But the differences between the US and UK are seemingly too great. Quote:
Then you can't see very far.
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Then you can't see very far.
I'm not sure what makes The Chase 'crap' to you? |
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From Broadcast:
I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here!: 8.2m (34.9%) The Apprentice: 4.7m (19.8%) Who Do You Think You Are?: Danny Dyer: 4.2m (19.6%) Grand Designs: House of the Year: 1.5m (6.2%) Close to the Enemy: 1.3m (5.5%) The Secret Life of the Zoo: 1.2m (5.7%) I'm a Celebrity...Extra Camp: 632k (4.2%) Jack Taylor: 530k (2.8%) inc. +1 where applicable |
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ITV have also ordered a new 6 part physical gameshow 'Bigheads':
More on Broadcast. Manford at least hasn't had lots of shows previously. Quote:
I agree, if it really takes off as a 'thing' over here, it could launch the next generation of TV presenters in the same way Fallon etc have become household names across the Atlantic. Although we don't have a a SNL equivalent for whoever it may be to hone their craft on like he did, which probably makes it less likely. Also this being ITV they'll probably waste weeks on Stephen Mulhern etc, at least in the first series, and Ant & Dec will no doubt host the week before BGT launches, complete with a vomit-inducing Simon Cowell guest spot or four.
The series ends in late February so it's not going to connect to BGT. It will lead to Takeaway. With The Voice, Let it Shine and Danceł all starting in January (probably), they've got a bunch of potential guests right there. Jason Manford must be a good bet as another possible host now. Paddy McGuiness, Dara, Sarah Millican, Brydon, Flanagan, Whitehall and Lee Mack are a few others off the top of my head. Sam and Mark would be a an interesting idea too. |
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Then you can't see very far.
I'm not sure what makes The Chase 'crap' to you?
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Yes I have to say that sounds a bit of an idea. I can remember the Knockout giant costumes that used to topple over accompanied by Stuart Halls raucous laughter. With the added ingredient of famous caricatures it has the possibility of being enjoyably daft-in the same way that Bring on the Wall used to be enjoyably daft (well to me anyway).
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Well, it's not so much the lack of guests that could be the problem, to be honest. The One Show seems to do well enough five days a week, and also if the show is good enough you don't have to live and die on the guests, people will watch it regardless. Of course when Wogan was on three nights a week he said he was happy with it because he thought that once a week the audience expect it to be an event, whereas more than once a week viewers are happy enough for a show to just tick along and if there's a dull one it doesn't really matter. And when Jack Docherty started he said it didn't matter if the guest had only been in one episode of Neighbours, there'd be enough funny things to talk about. If the show, the host and the regular features are enough of a draw, the guests are simply the icing on the cake.
The problem I think with a UK equivalent of the nightly chat show is not so much there aren't enough guests, but there isn't enough money, so you have small writing teams and small production teams and they run out of energy and ideas so quickly. Graham Norton did it every night for eighteen months and was OK, but he got a bit fed up with the routine quite quickly and it probably ran out of ideas too quickly because there was only a small writing team. In America they have enormous production teams generating ideas and they're also paying the presenters millions and millons of dollars to think about nothing else. The other difference between British and American telly when it comes to chat shows is that in America all the channels show the same programmes every day. People fit the US chat shows into their routines because a) they're on really late and b) all the other channels are always showing the same programmes, so there's no real floating audience. If you watch Fallon one night, you probably watch it every night because it's up against the same things ever night. But here, especially at ten o'clock, other channels always show different things. You might be available at ten o'clock one night, but another night there'd be something else on. It's hard to get a regular audience because it's hard to get people to put stuff in their routine. I know there's the Ten O'Clock News but people who are avoiding the news (which presumably will be this show's audience) are all over the place. I think it's too hard to get people into a routine unless a show is very early in the evening (like The One Show) or very late. I mean, I like the idea of it, and I hope it works for them if only to add a bit of variety to the schedule and extend it a bit. But the differences between the US and UK are seemingly too great. They aren't competing with lots of other shows so have more of a monopoly on the guests, especially when Norton is off air. It's only 24 minutes long so needs less padding. It has novelty value. All guests tend to be in London whereas America splits between two cities. Having different hosts means you've really got different shows. I assume games will tend to be unique to the host though maybe not. There's less chat on these US shows these days. Leno was largely chat after his stand-up and the feature (stuff like the brilliant Headlines) whereas Fallon has games with guests half way through the show. It has got a Noel/Takeaway nature to them. Each host should bring fresh ideas. At least it doesn't need to do much to top News at Ten. I'm sure if it bombs itv will simply axe it and replace it with extra episodes of Corrie and Emmerdale. |
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From Broadcast:
I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here!: 8.2m (34.9%) The Apprentice: 4.7m (19.8%) Who Do You Think You Are?: Danny Dyer: 4.2m (19.6%) Grand Designs: House of the Year: 1.5m (6.2%) Close to the Enemy: 1.3m (5.5%) The Secret Life of the Zoo: 1.2m (5.7%) I'm a Celebrity...Extra Camp: 632k (4.2%) Jack Taylor: 530k (2.8%) inc. +1 where applicable Great for IAC and WDYTYA? I'm sad to see The Zoo do poorly, its a great series. Should have been on Sunday 8pm Ch4. I'm A Celeb is flat YOY, despite this year facing TA, and last year a 2.5m programme on BBC1. |
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Personal preference?
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ITV have also ordered a new 6 part physical gameshow 'Bigheads':
More on Broadcast. I'm not sure about the host, but I'm open to him being a good fit. But I would have though something like this would have been a Harry Hill type vehicle. |
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ITV has shown the most-watched soap, entertainment, sport and current affairs programme on any channel so far this year and we plan to continue to deliver these big audiences powered by a scintillating programme slate for 2017. Surely GBBO is for entertainment?Read more at http://www.campaignlive.co.uk/articl...phB3x7lpzpQ.99 Olympics for sport? Current affairs? PE2 I assume is classed as a documentary. |
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Isn't EastEnders the highest rated soap of the year (on NYD)?
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Jason Manford must be a good bet as another possible host now. Paddy McGuiness, Dara, Sarah Millican, Brydon, Flanagan, Whitehall and Lee Mack are a few others off the top of my head.
Sam and Mark would be a an interesting idea too. Using stand ups is tricky because most of them tour or have other commitments, once you're presenting a nightly chat show, that's all you can do, |
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Surely GBBO is for entertainment?
Olympics for sport? Current affairs? PE2 I assume is classed as a documentary. |
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Surely GBBO is for entertainment?
Olympics for sport? Current affairs? PE2 I assume is classed as a documentary. |
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I believe Stuart Hall is available again after a sabbatical at Her Majesty's Pleasure
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From the BBC News website article on ITV's new nightly chat show. Quote:
ITV said the series would feature a "high tempo mixture of topical monologue, studio games, celebrity guests, experts and VTs [pre-recorded items]".
So they could probably get away with just one celebrity guest in each show. Unlikely to need more than two. Multiple guests might well be on together to promote the same film or TV show.
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Dara has other commitments likewise with Jack Whitehall who already had a chat show with Backchat. Sam and Mark work fine as kids presenter but I don't think they're ready for adult television.
Using stand ups is tricky because most of them tour or have other commitments, once you're presenting a nightly chat show, that's all you can do, Rather than this always being on, I lean to the idea of it having these 8 week runs with at least four different hosts. It should be on when Norton isn't which I think is the summer. That's also when most big movies still come out. It always puzzled me why chat shows and FilmYY used to go off air in the summer. So that might say you'd want to be on in some of the summer and also this time of the year to cash in on IAC. 8 week runs around: Jan/Feb April/May (finish after the BGT week) Mid-summer Oct/Nov/Dec to end with IAC or XF before the Xmas period. Roughly 32 weeks on and 20 off. The other 20 weeks could be covered by dramas, films, comedy or current affairs. The news would be 10:30pm. #fantasyScheduler |
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