They have just celebrated ten years on CBBC. I do wonder whether Ant and Dec so dominate as a modern day double act/presenting duo, that there is a fear of trying to launch any act remotely similar. Ant and Dec have been around forever already and they are only just into their forties, so they aren't going away anywhere. There is nothing wrong with careers in childrens tv but it would be nice to see someone else make the leap successfully into primetime.

I don't watch much One Show, but isn't that the sameish format, just at 10.00?

There is is a rather intresting drama coming to BBC One next week, Wonder how that will do?

I want the new Nightly Show on ITV at 10 to do well, and Walliams is great to kick it off.

The issue is always when ITV copy, so a The One Show- Mark 2 would not be good, if it's based on the USA Nightly shows it has a good chance.

Leave the News to BBC1 and do something completely different is an excellent idea. Tom Bradby is most likely completing his CV an application to Sky at this time.

Rillington Place looks fantastic and in a good slot.

I think the rotating hosts concept has a shelf life. It makes sense for the initial run to try people out - but realistically, they'll do very well to even find one or two out of the initial eight who really excel in the format. Its likely that at least half will prove a little unsuited, and one or two are liable to be total car crashes. That's not really a criticism - just the standard hit rate with these things. Especially when you are going to be fitting in hosts to a pre-existing structure and tone. There might be some variation week-on-week, but it's the same production and they won't want to be launching a whole new show each and every week.

If they are so lucky to stumble across a formula and personality that works, I don't see why they'd then want to commit to a second run when they have to take the bad weeks with the good again. More likely you get an extended return for the one or possibly two host that work.

It's all a very fascinating prospect though - seems like a few years that either of the big two tried to make such a major change to Such essential schedule fixtures.

I do hope the new nightly chat show works but going down a One Show type content is not what they are looking for is it?

I'm surprised they've never tried a breakfast show type format for 10pm - 11pm. Good Evening Britain. Exactly the same as Good Morning Britain without the competitions.

Wouldn't that just be Newsnight but less hard hitting?

And 600k viewers! GMB isn't doing well, it's static, I think myself try to copy James Cordons success in USA.

Good to see that Channel 5 are trying something new with the 6.30pm news slot in a few weeks, with some ITN specials:

Mon 12th Dec
2016: Big Brexit Bust-Up
A look back at how the United Kingdom voted to leave the European Union.

Tue 13th Dec
2016: Trump's Triumphant Year
A look back on the year which began with Donald Trump as a property tycoon and ended with him being the President-elect.

Wed 14th Dec
2016: Showbiz Legends We've Lost
A look back on a year in which several leading lights were taken from us including David Bowie and Prince.

Thu 15th Dec
2016: A Right Royal Year
A look back on the year from a Royal perspective.

Fri 16th Dec
2016: Terror in Europe
A look back on the year in which Europe experienced several major terrorist attacks.

Last time I checked, GMB was above 700k and up YOY.

BIB I thought you said ITV should be distinctive and not copy?

Something new ? The BBC were doing those ''look back on the year'' programmes about 20 years ago and ITV did some as well. Library pictures plus a couple of new interviews if you're lucky.

700k is nothing to write home about either though. Let's be honest. Not when BBC Breakfast is getting 1.5m at the same time. And it'll probably drop back down soon.

That's exactly what I think will happen, and if the show is a success, it'll have one or a small number of regular hosts within a year. Saying they will rotate is just so they don't have to decide upfront.

A fascinating prospect, that I'm sure will turn into a regular stick to beat them with after the first rating comes in and it doesn't get 5m or whatever benchmark the papers will base a success on.

Thanks Ray. Weird how ITV Media hasn't updated for two days now, and the Broadcast app didn't this morning.

I would have liked a higher WDYTYA rating but I suppose in the 4s is good, just hope it can stay there for the rest of the series.

ITV's late news is more interesting than BBC1's but then so is Newsnight's. It's more of a long-read style with more depth and analysis. However, the public prefer the shorter style which is why sky News has largely steered clear of specialist news shows.


As for the Nightly Show, I don't think it's going to be anything like the One Show which is more Nationwide or TVAM in its style. This is clearly going to be much younger and funnier, at times quite anarchic. Since the older demographic will be watching the news it does make sense to go for the younger crowd.

I'd imagine it'll be very similar to Fallon's but with just less of everything - cut into shorter bursts. You're not going to see 8 minutes of stand-up to start every show like Leno did. It's potentially really good news for British music acts which is certainly good news.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Maybe they could hit on two or three good hosts, who knew Corden would be so good at it?
Could different hosts present different blocks so that it fits people's schedules.

Eg HostA does winter but he can't do the summer so HostB does that and HostC does Easter etc?


If this show works with a host, maybe itv2 could have an 11pm Nightly Show with other hosts. A Late Nightly Show which might groom new hosting talent.

I did say that exactly!?

BTW - not too sure splitting hairs on 100k is worth it, quote back GMB ratings late December.

The main thing is for the News at 10 pm, viewers choose BBC1 sometimes 3:1 or 4:1, the news at when has killed it, and when an important story breaks the credibility is with the BBC.

I do think ITV need to be creative, this nightly show is out of the box and could well work, it could take viewers off of BBC1 news then the viewers pick up ITV news.

It's a great idea, Walliams a great host for the first week.

Walliams is in the One Show now they showed some of his sketches tonight and they are fresh and funny.

ITV need to be fresh and distinctive avoid copying BBC1 but do new things.

It's going to take time for the show to find its groove, Fallon was lucky that he could develop his show when he was presented Late Night, when he started he wasn't great but he slowly but surely improved. Same with Corden, Colbert and Meyers,

I think one of the things I like is that they've taken a different approach rather than copy each other, Colbert and Meyers is aimed at an older audience with its more political humour whereas Fallon and Corden is more about having fun.

Yup and BBC football thrashed the pants off ITV football.

Could not agree more with all of this.

Since around 2005, ITV in different ways have tried too much to be like BBC1, but come off like the very poor guy. I think it started with the Steve Rider poach and sterilising ITV football.

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What did the soaps get last night?

Good article on Radio Times.

Is David Walliams' new weeknight entertainment show killing off ITV's News at Ten?
Ben Dowell analyses what ITV’s decision to launch a new 10pm series in the news slot means for the whole TV landscape

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...vs-news-at-ten


Includes

The Nightly Show is airing at 10pm and will shunt the news to later in the evening – 10.30pm – over the eight-week run. ITV insist that the news will return to 10pm when the run finishes. But will it?

The channel's revamped news show has already been shifted to make way for limited-run programmes such as I’m a Celebrity … Get Me Out of Here! and Champions League football coverage, as it is allowed to do under Ofcom rules. ITV is merely obligated to show 365 hours of national and international news each year, with 125 hours during peak times. But the eight-week stretch is a long one.

Does this really show faith in its new-look News at Ten, fronted by Tom Bradby, that it launched with such fanfare a year ago? Surely not, and ITN sources suggest they are concerned (and a little cross) about the decision.

And...

This latest move seems like another effective concession that ITV’s heart is not in its late night news and that the channel has gifted more ground to the BBC in the battle of the 10pm news bulletins.

Because, surely, if The Nightly Show is a success, there will be more experiments of this kind, more entertainment shows parachuted into the 10pm slot. If the News stayed at 10.30pm, ITV would be able to show 90-minute dramas at 9pm (surely a tempting prospect) and the late night news could be left to wither on the ratings vine.