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Old 25-11-2016, 20:53
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Good to see that Channel 5 are trying something new with the 6.30pm news slot in a few weeks, with some ITN specials:

Mon 12th Dec
2016: Big Brexit Bust-Up
A look back at how the United Kingdom voted to leave the European Union.

Tue 13th Dec
2016: Trump's Triumphant Year
A look back on the year which began with Donald Trump as a property tycoon and ended with him being the President-elect.

Wed 14th Dec
2016: Showbiz Legends We've Lost
A look back on a year in which several leading lights were taken from us including David Bowie and Prince.

Thu 15th Dec
2016: A Right Royal Year
A look back on the year from a Royal perspective.

Fri 16th Dec
2016: Terror in Europe
A look back on the year in which Europe experienced several major terrorist attacks.
The Brexit one will be interesting - I wonder if they'll be brave enough to point the finger at their former ownership group for the part it played.

Not sure what the Royals have done this year to fill an hour with though.
ITV's late news is more interesting than BBC1's but then so is Newsnight's. It's more of a long-read style with more depth and analysis. However, the public prefer the shorter style which is why sky News has largely steered clear of specialist news shows.


As for the Nightly Show, I don't think it's going to be anything like the One Show which is more Nationwide or TVAM in its style. This is clearly going to be much younger and funnier, at times quite anarchic. Since the older demographic will be watching the news it does make sense to go for the younger crowd.

I'd imagine it'll be very similar to Fallon's but with just less of everything - cut into shorter bursts. You're not going to see 8 minutes of stand-up to start every show like Leno did. It's potentially really good news for British music acts which is certainly good news.
CNBC used to show Fallon edited down into a half-hour slot over here and it didn't ruin the show too much, half-arsed editing aside. Not sure the audience ITV are going to be targeting with this are going to be coming for monologues anyway.

Agree it'll be massively beneficial to UK music if it takes off properly, with Ross and X Factor on the slide and Strictly seemingly unable to have much influence on sales no matter how high its ratings go, it could potentially end up as UK TV's number one most sought-after music promo opportunity.
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Old 25-11-2016, 21:05
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ITV have just played a minute long trailer advertising Christmas on ITV
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Old 25-11-2016, 21:08
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Not sure what the Royals have done this year to fill an hour with though.
As Harry's girlfriend alone has filled enough tabloid pages to print a full set of Encyclopedia Brittanica on I don't think they'll struggle! And were you on the ISS the first six months of the year or do you just have a really short memory? The number 90 seem vaguely familiar at all?
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Old 25-11-2016, 21:10
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ITV have just played a minute long trailer advertising Christmas on ITV
Well it is just a month away and Advent officially starts on Sunday!
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Old 25-11-2016, 21:11
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ITV have just played a minute long trailer advertising Christmas on ITV
Which shows were on it? Or was it one of those annoying ones where it doesn't actually say the names of the shows?
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Old 25-11-2016, 21:13
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Because, surely, if The Nightly Show is a success, there will be more experiments of this kind, more entertainment shows parachuted into the 10pm slot. If the News stayed at 10.30pm, ITV would be able to show 90-minute dramas at 9pm (surely a tempting prospect) and the late night news could be left to wither on the ratings vine.
ITV were showing 90 minutes dramas when the News was at 10.30pm and still do like they did with Dark Angel. I suspect dramas would remain at an hour most of the times as that is the preferred format.
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Old 25-11-2016, 21:36
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The soaps last night anyone?
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Old 25-11-2016, 21:54
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The soaps last night anyone?
I broadcast a medicated shampoo achieving a 100% share of the dog's washable areas. That help?
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Old 25-11-2016, 22:02
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ITV were showing 90 minutes dramas when the News was at 10.30pm and still do like they did with Dark Angel. I suspect dramas would remain at an hour most of the times as that is the preferred format.
Yes.

A reminder that's Radio Times view.
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Old 25-11-2016, 22:02
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Which shows were on it? Or was it one of those annoying ones where it doesn't actually say the names of the shows?
One of those ones that doesn't actually say the name of the shows.

Basically a montage of Corrie, Emmerdale, Mr and Mrs, Maigret, POG Dogs, Vicious, Birds of a feather, Keyhole and some other bits that I couldn't identify etc
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Old 25-11-2016, 22:05
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I certainly hope Walliams' stint on The Nightly Show is better than 'Walliams and Friend'. Class-mocking, childish and just generally not funny at all.
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Old 25-11-2016, 22:11
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I certainly hope Walliams' stint on The Nightly Show is better than 'Walliams and Friend'. Class-mocking, childish and just generally not funny at all.
Well don't watch it then.
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Old 25-11-2016, 22:13
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Well don't watch it then.
I certainly won't be doing again, rest assured
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Old 25-11-2016, 22:14
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Good article on Radio Times.

Is David Walliams' new weeknight entertainment show killing off ITV's News at Ten?
Ben Dowell analyses what ITV’s decision to launch a new 10pm series in the news slot means for the whole TV landscape

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...vs-news-at-ten


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The Nightly Show is airing at 10pm and will shunt the news to later in the evening – 10.30pm – over the eight-week run. ITV insist that the news will return to 10pm when the run finishes. But will it?

The channel's revamped news show has already been shifted to make way for limited-run programmes such as I’m a Celebrity … Get Me Out of Here! and Champions League football coverage, as it is allowed to do under Ofcom rules. ITV is merely obligated to show 365 hours of national and international news each year, with 125 hours during peak times. But the eight-week stretch is a long one.

Does this really show faith in its new-look News at Ten, fronted by Tom Bradby, that it launched with such fanfare a year ago? Surely not, and ITN sources suggest they are concerned (and a little cross) about the decision.

And...

This latest move seems like another effective concession that ITV’s heart is not in its late night news and that the channel has gifted more ground to the BBC in the battle of the 10pm news bulletins.

Because, surely, if The Nightly Show is a success, there will be more experiments of this kind, more entertainment shows parachuted into the 10pm slot. If the News stayed at 10.30pm, ITV would be able to show 90-minute dramas at 9pm (surely a tempting prospect) and the late night news could be left to wither on the ratings vine.
Last night’s overnights were typical. The BBC1 bulletin had an overnight audience of 3.5 million (a 5.9% audience share) with ITV’s getting 2 million on the main channel (a 3.4% share) and 479,000 viewers on ITV HD.
3.5m v 2.5m??? That's not that different for the two News at Ten programmes.

IAC obviously helps.
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Old 25-11-2016, 22:56
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Well Walliams and Friend was pretty poor. The ep last year was 'ok', and I think like many said last year, 1 episode was enough.

I will watch the rest of the series, in the hope it gets better.
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Old 25-11-2016, 23:18
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Joe Swah mentioned on the I'm A Celebrity spin off than the next elimination is on Sunday. He may have misspoke but it'd make sense to a degree with tomorrow's show only being 60 minutes long.
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Old 25-11-2016, 23:23
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Lygo said this night time show is trying to replicate Cordens show but like people have said on this fourm previously who the hell out of England wants to see gino de campo doing some random game. The best hope for Itv is for it be well recived as I cant see them getting higher then 1m-1.2m.
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Old 25-11-2016, 23:26
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I broadcast a medicated shampoo achieving a 100% share of the dog's washable areas. That help?
You know what I mean. I can't see the ratings for them?
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Old 25-11-2016, 23:29
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I thought tonight at 8pm on Ch4 Alan Carr's new series Happy Hour was meant to launch? It appears to have been replaced by a rpt of Unreported World
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Old 25-11-2016, 23:30
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You know what I mean. I can't see the ratings for them?
They haven't been reported and will not likely be, until Monday
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Old 25-11-2016, 23:35
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I thought tonight at 8pm on Ch4 Alan Carr's new series Happy Hour was meant to launch? It appears to have been replaced by a rpt of Unreported World
When I did the schedule for the game H, it was in that slot today at 8 but at the weekend Channel 4 decided to delay it's launch till next week and changed the schedule! I don't know why they did it. So annoying.
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Old 26-11-2016, 03:01
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Saturday has overtaken Sunday as the bigges day for newspaper sales. They know what sells and a TV 'scandal' story is on the front page again today.

I will flick through the Xmas TV guide included in the paper instead.
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Old 26-11-2016, 03:06
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Victoria Christmas special 2017 confirmed by writer Daisy Goodwin
For the love of god WHY????????

The series was utter cack, everything about it was cack especially the poor writing, I'm surprised it was popular.

Daisy Goodwin aint all that.
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Old 26-11-2016, 08:02
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I really enjoyed Walliams and Friend, I found it really funny. I hope it held up ok against IAC. Would be nice to see it above 4m. It would be good for a mainstream terrestrial comedy to become a big hit, there doesn't seem to be many of them these days
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Old 26-11-2016, 08:53
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I certainly hope Walliams' stint on The Nightly Show is better than 'Walliams and Friend'. Class-mocking, childish and just generally not funny at all.
I think it might be. I didn't see Walliams & Friend but I've never been a huge fan of his scripted comedy (Big School, Come Fly With Me, even Little Britain). I much prefer him when he's just being himself, in interviews, on BGT etc. He's far funnier in that sort of setting, which The Nightly Show is more likely to replicate.

He's barely going to be off the TV in the next few weeks though, with Walliams & Friend, Royal Variety, Blankety Blank, the Shirley Bassey tribute and then a week on The Nightly Show. He'll then start filming BGT in January. Busy, busy, busy.
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