Toy Story was made by Pixar which is part of Disney.
The Ratings Thread (Part 68)
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What's going on with the lack of ratings from Broadcast App? And ITV Media hasn't updated since Wednesday.
Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“Quite so. Shrek, Toy Story and Toy Story 3 are the only remotely comparable BBC One Christmas Day premieres this century - and culturally it's probably more significant even than all of those, even if critically it isn't quite as well-regarded.”
“Quite so. Shrek, Toy Story and Toy Story 3 are the only remotely comparable BBC One Christmas Day premieres this century - and culturally it's probably more significant even than all of those, even if critically it isn't quite as well-regarded.”
I think Toy Story 3 is a good comparison. Culturally Frozen feels a lot bigger, even if it isn't as well critically received! It has the potential to pull a huge figure and possibly top the overnights on Christmas Day. Toy Story 3 got 6.3m, I think this could go around 7m! If they decided to shift it later in the day (highly unlikely) I think it could be even higher.
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Yes I am a Frozen fan, it isn't just for young girls you know! There is a lot in it for everyone, I am a fan of the lion king as well, but it's far older, and not as topical Frozen. Frozen is getting a follow up, it had a new rude added in Walt Disney worked with day long queues, and Disney put its cruise ships to Norway as Frozen is popular and added a Frozen show.
The Lion King only has a musical,
The point was, which you missed, is putting two Disney films against each other Frozen will win. It's far more popular, ITV if it had an idea would not put The Lion King against Frozen. BBC1 has traditionally fir years shown a strong animated film post the queen on Christmas Day, ITV occasionally copy.
It's better they do something different, distinctive, not copy, so Paul Ogrady's dogs or blankety blank would work, disney vs disney Frozen wins. The factual ITV out in last year everyone saw was filler and was repeated in days, they didn't really try.
You always add in personal comments, it doesn't all revolve around BBC1 that's your impression not mine, but you add it in incorrectly, and say about being a Frozen fan as a put down. Frozen is a big film, it's the biggest film, BBC1 has shown at Christmas for years, people may laugh or under estimate it, but it's a blockbuster.
Lion King would get some viewers but loose, if they put it on another day and not against a top Disney film, it will do very well, despite being a lot older.”
“Yes I am a Frozen fan, it isn't just for young girls you know! There is a lot in it for everyone, I am a fan of the lion king as well, but it's far older, and not as topical Frozen. Frozen is getting a follow up, it had a new rude added in Walt Disney worked with day long queues, and Disney put its cruise ships to Norway as Frozen is popular and added a Frozen show.
The Lion King only has a musical,
The point was, which you missed, is putting two Disney films against each other Frozen will win. It's far more popular, ITV if it had an idea would not put The Lion King against Frozen. BBC1 has traditionally fir years shown a strong animated film post the queen on Christmas Day, ITV occasionally copy.
It's better they do something different, distinctive, not copy, so Paul Ogrady's dogs or blankety blank would work, disney vs disney Frozen wins. The factual ITV out in last year everyone saw was filler and was repeated in days, they didn't really try.
You always add in personal comments, it doesn't all revolve around BBC1 that's your impression not mine, but you add it in incorrectly, and say about being a Frozen fan as a put down. Frozen is a big film, it's the biggest film, BBC1 has shown at Christmas for years, people may laugh or under estimate it, but it's a blockbuster.
Lion King would get some viewers but loose, if they put it on another day and not against a top Disney film, it will do very well, despite being a lot older.”
And an upcoming live action CGI adaption, similar to the recent The Jugle Book.
BIB Its not personal in a nasty way, but you are a BBC fan, and every post you make reflects positively on the BBC. I have never once seen to be critical of them. (not that I'm saying you need to be, but that is why I say its all revolves around BBC1 -they can do no wrong).
I am not saying being a Frozen fan as an insult at all, I like Frozen (though not madly), I have it on DVD (most Disney in fact). Being a Frozen fan is fine. What I was suggesting was that you were bigging it up, now you know its going to be on BBC1. Had it been ITV, I suspect you'd be bigging up The Lion King. Both are big films, but Frozen is more recent. But it doesn't mean The Lion King is any less important.
Though I think we all know Frozen will do very well, but that doesn't mean ITV should just roll over.
Originally Posted by ArtyAttack:
“Toy Story was made by Pixar which is part of Disney.”
“Toy Story was made by Pixar which is part of Disney.”
Only Walt Disney Studios films are considered part of the Disney Renassiance though, and I know what this thread is like for pedantry
Originally Posted by burbe:
“I think Toy Story 3 is a good comparison. Culturally Frozen feels a lot bigger, even if it isn't as well critically received! It has the potential to pull a huge figure and possibly top the overnights on Christmas Day. Toy Story 3 got 6.3m, I think this could go around 7m! If they decided to shift it later in the day (highly unlikely) I think it could be even higher.”
“I think Toy Story 3 is a good comparison. Culturally Frozen feels a lot bigger, even if it isn't as well critically received! It has the potential to pull a huge figure and possibly top the overnights on Christmas Day. Toy Story 3 got 6.3m, I think this could go around 7m! If they decided to shift it later in the day (highly unlikely) I think it could be even higher.”
It's almost a shame it has come up in the last year of BBC Bake Off - if Bake Off had left the BBC last year, or Frozen had premiered next year, Frozen could potentially have gone out at ~6pm and got the highest figure of the day.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“And an upcoming live action CGI adaption, similar to the recent The Jugle Book.
BIB Its not personal in a nasty way, but you are a BBC fan, and every post you make reflects positively on the BBC. I have never once seen to be critical of them. (not that I'm saying you need to be, but that is why I say its all revolves around BBC1 -they can do no wrong).
I am not saying being a Frozen fan as an insult at all, I like Frozen (though not madly), I have it on DVD (most Disney in fact). Being a Frozen fan is fine. What I was suggesting was that you were bigging it up, now you know its going to be on BBC1. Had it been ITV, I suspect you'd be bigging up The Lion King. Both are big films, but Frozen is more recent. But it doesn't mean The Lion King is any less important.
Though I think we all know Frozen will do very well, but that doesn't mean ITV should just roll over.”
“And an upcoming live action CGI adaption, similar to the recent The Jugle Book.
BIB Its not personal in a nasty way, but you are a BBC fan, and every post you make reflects positively on the BBC. I have never once seen to be critical of them. (not that I'm saying you need to be, but that is why I say its all revolves around BBC1 -they can do no wrong).
I am not saying being a Frozen fan as an insult at all, I like Frozen (though not madly), I have it on DVD (most Disney in fact). Being a Frozen fan is fine. What I was suggesting was that you were bigging it up, now you know its going to be on BBC1. Had it been ITV, I suspect you'd be bigging up The Lion King. Both are big films, but Frozen is more recent. But it doesn't mean The Lion King is any less important.
Though I think we all know Frozen will do very well, but that doesn't mean ITV should just roll over.”
Thank you for your answer, I know you can't read all my posts across all forums but actually if you search there are critical comments on the BBC and I get unfairly labelled st times.
This thread would be better if posters stop the Fan of this or that channel. Yes there are one or two real passionate fans of one particular show, which I feel, yes should have ended around 2010.
You do misunderstand at times,
Now to make it clear......I like the Lion King.... I have seen the show, got the DVD. It's good, it will get viewers.
Frozen is newer, more popular, and IMHO will walk it, Putting Disney Vs Disney will split the audience maybe 4:2 or even 5:1. ITV Knows Frozen is on at 3.10 Christmas Day, the Lion King will not do well there. Put it on a different day/ time, it will do far better.
Some think A Frozen Fan is a 5yo girl, but it's far more than that, it's like saying Toy Story is a kids film. Olaf for example is endearing , this is the best film on at Christmas for some years.
Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“Only Walt Disney Studios films are considered part of the Disney Renassiance though, and I know what this thread is like for pedantry
It's almost a shame it has come up in the last year of BBC Bake Off - if Bake Off had left the BBC last year, or Frozen had premiered next year, Frozen could potentially have gone out at ~6pm and got the highest figure of the day.”
“Only Walt Disney Studios films are considered part of the Disney Renassiance though, and I know what this thread is like for pedantry
It's almost a shame it has come up in the last year of BBC Bake Off - if Bake Off had left the BBC last year, or Frozen had premiered next year, Frozen could potentially have gone out at ~6pm and got the highest figure of the day.”
Agree.
Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“Only Walt Disney Studios films are considered part of the Disney Renassiance though, and I know what this thread is like for pedantry
It's almost a shame it has come up in the last year of BBC Bake Off - if Bake Off had left the BBC last year, or Frozen had premiered next year, Frozen could potentially have gone out at ~6pm and got the highest figure of the day.”
“Only Walt Disney Studios films are considered part of the Disney Renassiance though, and I know what this thread is like for pedantry
It's almost a shame it has come up in the last year of BBC Bake Off - if Bake Off had left the BBC last year, or Frozen had premiered next year, Frozen could potentially have gone out at ~6pm and got the highest figure of the day.”
No reason for Frozen and Bake Off to be at the very centre of BBC1's Christmas Day.
Dump "the usual suspects" (yawn) to other slots
Dr Who looks like being nearly as crap as last year's episodes and its ratings are in decline so Christmas Eve at 6pm (a Saturday, the programme's normal transmission day) or Christmas Day at 3.10pm.
Strictly, for the second year running (at least), brings back a totally random selection of past contestants. Lack of effort there. 4.10pm after Dr Who.
Call The Midwife - woman's programme on a day that should be given over to programmes that will appeal to all members of the family. Move it to Boxing Day, a good fit and still one of the big three days of Christmas.
Easy.
Alexander Armstrong just said on Michael McIntyre's Big Show that he's just finished recording 210 episodes of Pointless, which is 42 weeks worth. So why are the BBC fobbing us off with weeks of effing repeats four weeks into a series of 55 episodes?
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Alexander Armstrong just said on Michael McIntyre's Big Show that he's just finished recording 210 episodes of Pointless, which is 42 weeks worth. So why are the BBC fobbing us off with weeks of effing repeats four weeks into a series of 55 episodes?”
“Alexander Armstrong just said on Michael McIntyre's Big Show that he's just finished recording 210 episodes of Pointless, which is 42 weeks worth. So why are the BBC fobbing us off with weeks of effing repeats four weeks into a series of 55 episodes?
”
Probably to elongate those new episodes so they can run for longer into next year and the year after. I imagine filming Pointless for 42 weeks is pretty tiresome after a while, so I imagine the BBC are trying to give AA a break from filming.
Rzt posted this breakdown from yesterday on the other place, thought I should bring it across as no one else has.
It's hard to work out the figures because it's not in smaller intervals, but using the figure at the start of each programme that makes it:
BBC1:
The One Show: 3.4m
Still Open All Hours (r): 2.7m
EastEnders: 5.7m
Citizen Khan: 2.5m
HIGNFY: 3.9m
Walliams & Friend: 2.8m
ITV:
Emmerdale: 5.7m
Corrie 1: 6.3m
Countrywise: 2.7m
Corrie 2: 6.1m
Obviously that's not accurate but it's in the right area.
It's hard to work out the figures because it's not in smaller intervals, but using the figure at the start of each programme that makes it:
BBC1:
The One Show: 3.4m
Still Open All Hours (r): 2.7m
EastEnders: 5.7m
Citizen Khan: 2.5m
HIGNFY: 3.9m
Walliams & Friend: 2.8m
ITV:
Emmerdale: 5.7m
Corrie 1: 6.3m
Countrywise: 2.7m
Corrie 2: 6.1m
Obviously that's not accurate but it's in the right area.
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BBC1 ITV 06:00 637.4000 39.15% 344.8000 21.18% 06:30 1,015.70 39.46% 517.4000 20.10% 07:00 1,537.20 39.34% 812.2000 20.78% 07:30 1,781.00 36.86% 913.9000 18.92% 08:00 1,910.60 35.52% 1,009.70 18.77% 08:30 1,865.80 37.63% 988.7000 19.94% 09:00 1,447.60 30.66% 1,110.30 23.52% 09:30 1,163.50 25.06% 1,169.80 25.19% 10:00 1,054.50 23.45% 1,232.60 27.41% 10:30 1,138.60 26.18% 974.5000 22.41% 11:00 727.5000 17.07% 1,013.70 23.78% 11:30 758.8000 17.33% 939.1000 21.45% 12:00 1,149.80 22.97% 909.2000 18.16% 12:30 1,812.30 31.46% 851.4000 14.78% 13:00 2,216.20 34.51% 910.9000 14.19% 13:30 1,725.90 26.55% 812.4000 12.50% 14:00 1,025.70 16.41% 861.6000 13.78% 14:30 1,007.60 16.47% 919.4000 15.03% 15:00 1,149.10 18.06% 806.5000 12.67% 15:30 1,253.40 17.32% 931.7000 12.88% 16:00 1,424.30 16.46% 1,916.90 22.15% 16:30 1,831.10 17.47% 2,674.70 25.52% 17:00 2,625.80 20.55% 3,287.60 25.73% 17:30 3,203.60 21.30% 3,745.80 24.91% 18:00 4,719.50 27.76% 3,672.10 21.60% 18:30 4,793.10 27.04% 3,458.40 19.51% 19:00 3,367.80 18.69% 5,711.80 31.70% 19:30 2,736.80 14.37% 6,346.80 33.32% 20:00 5,744.20 29.15% 2,704.00 13.72% 20:30 2,541.90 12.58% 6,101.60 30.21% 21:00 3,898.10 17.38% 8,023.60 35.78% 21:30 2,802.90 12.97% 8,239.70 38.14% 22:00 3,155.60 16.20% 7,697.60 39.51% 22:30 2,964.90 20.01% 2,325.90 15.69% 23:00 2,955.90 26.01% 1,189.40 10.47%
Thanks Rick
Looking at that breakdown, the boost Pointless gets in its last few minutes is huge compared to The Chase.
The soaps all look low, even without +1. What happened to Corrie?
Walliams and Friend is DOA.
IAC is the only real stand out from last night with 8.1m
GMB gets some nice 20% shares in the morning. Breakfast shares are impressive, but not suprising. I notice it rises when GMB finishes.
Looking at that breakdown, the boost Pointless gets in its last few minutes is huge compared to The Chase.
The soaps all look low, even without +1. What happened to Corrie?
Walliams and Friend is DOA.
IAC is the only real stand out from last night with 8.1m
GMB gets some nice 20% shares in the morning. Breakfast shares are impressive, but not suprising. I notice it rises when GMB finishes.
Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“Rzt posted this breakdown from yesterday on the other place, thought I should bring it across as no one else has.
It's hard to work out the figures because it's not in smaller intervals, but using the figure at the start of each programme that makes it:
BBC1:
The One Show: 3.4m
Still Open All Hours (r): 2.7m
EastEnders: 5.7m
Citizen Khan: 2.5m
HIGNFY: 3.9m
Walliams & Friend: 2.8m
”
“Rzt posted this breakdown from yesterday on the other place, thought I should bring it across as no one else has.
It's hard to work out the figures because it's not in smaller intervals, but using the figure at the start of each programme that makes it:
BBC1:
The One Show: 3.4m
Still Open All Hours (r): 2.7m
EastEnders: 5.7m
Citizen Khan: 2.5m
HIGNFY: 3.9m
Walliams & Friend: 2.8m
”
Well, there's BBC4's ratings. Where's BBC1's?
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Well, there's BBC4's ratings. Where's BBC1's?”
“Well, there's BBC4's ratings. Where's BBC1's?”
Not a great night for BBC1. HIGNFY down because of the IAC clash, Walliams flopped and Citizen Khan low as usual.
Still Game did better than Walliams, they need better comedies on a Friday to complement HIGNFY, otherwise it is left alone in the schedule and drops because of it.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Thanks Rick
The soaps all look low, even without +1. What happened to Corrie?”
“Thanks Rick
The soaps all look low, even without +1. What happened to Corrie?”
I think we need to wait for the tapechecked +1 numbers before we panic!
Originally Posted by Rob1985:
“I think we need to wait for the tapechecked +1 numbers before we panic!”
“I think we need to wait for the tapechecked +1 numbers before we panic!”
We never get tape checked +1 figures for soaps.
Apparently The X Factor had a planned stage invasion tonight, complete with crew member giving said 'stage invader' their cue to run on stage whilst in shot? Just how desperate is this batty old show for a cheap headline? 
Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“Apparently The X Factor had a planned stage invasion tonight, complete with crew member giving said 'stage invader' their cue to run on stage whilst in shot? Just how desperate is this batty old show for a cheap headline?”
“Apparently The X Factor had a planned stage invasion tonight, complete with crew member giving said 'stage invader' their cue to run on stage whilst in shot? Just how desperate is this batty old show for a cheap headline?
”
Sad but true......
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Sad but true......”
“Sad but true......”
Wait, it's true?? I saw it on twitter and thought it must have been a joke
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“
Dr Who looks like being nearly as crap as last year's episodes and its ratings are in decline so Christmas Eve at 6pm (a Saturday, the programme's normal transmission day) or Christmas Day at 3.10pm.
Strictly, for the second year running (at least), brings back a totally random selection of past contestants. Lack of effort there. 4.10pm after Dr Who.
Call The Midwife - woman's programme on a day that should be given over to programmes that will appeal to all members of the family. Move it to Boxing Day, a good fit and still one of the big three days of Christmas.
Easy.”
“
Dr Who looks like being nearly as crap as last year's episodes and its ratings are in decline so Christmas Eve at 6pm (a Saturday, the programme's normal transmission day) or Christmas Day at 3.10pm.
Strictly, for the second year running (at least), brings back a totally random selection of past contestants. Lack of effort there. 4.10pm after Dr Who.
Call The Midwife - woman's programme on a day that should be given over to programmes that will appeal to all members of the family. Move it to Boxing Day, a good fit and still one of the big three days of Christmas.
Easy.”
Not sure how you can judge Dr Who's ratings as it's not been on for a year! Strictly brings back old contestants because that's what the audience wants in the absence of what they really crave; a champion of champions series (why there hasn't been one remains a mystery). And Call The Midwife is by no means a woman's programme if such a thing even exists. If it ain't broke why fix it?
Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“Apparently The X Factor had a planned stage invasion tonight, complete with crew member giving said 'stage invader' their cue to run on stage whilst in shot? Just how desperate is this batty old show for a cheap headline?”
“Apparently The X Factor had a planned stage invasion tonight, complete with crew member giving said 'stage invader' their cue to run on stage whilst in shot? Just how desperate is this batty old show for a cheap headline?
”
Hey Zac, at least XF hasn't fallen to sub-4.5m like The Voice did this year, a programme you've totally showered praise over in the past. Where were your snide comments then, by the way?
You're really not as intellectual and wonderful as you think you are I'm afraid.
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“Not sure how you can judge Dr Who's ratings as it's not been on for a year! Strictly brings back old contestants because that's what the audience wants in the absence of what they really crave; a champion of champions series (why there hasn't been one remains a mystery). And Call The Midwife is by no means a woman's programme if such a thing even exists. If it ain't broke why fix it?”
“Not sure how you can judge Dr Who's ratings as it's not been on for a year! Strictly brings back old contestants because that's what the audience wants in the absence of what they really crave; a champion of champions series (why there hasn't been one remains a mystery). And Call The Midwife is by no means a woman's programme if such a thing even exists. If it ain't broke why fix it?”
By all accounts it is broke, though. The ratings last Christmas Day were dreadful. In particular, Call The Midwife proves year after year that whole swathes of its audience would rather watch it on Boxing Day but the BBC continue to insist on having it clog up probably the prime slot on the 25th. They don't even have the excuse of it hurting Downton by being wasted there anymore, yet they still won't shift it. It's just nonsensical.
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Alexander Armstrong just said on Michael McIntyre's Big Show that he's just finished recording 210 episodes of Pointless, which is 42 weeks worth. So why are the BBC fobbing us off with weeks of effing repeats four weeks into a series of 55 episodes?”
“Alexander Armstrong just said on Michael McIntyre's Big Show that he's just finished recording 210 episodes of Pointless, which is 42 weeks worth. So why are the BBC fobbing us off with weeks of effing repeats four weeks into a series of 55 episodes?
”
Well, is it not possible that you've already seen some of those episodes? And last time I looked there were 52 weeks in a year so that still leaves 10 weeks uncovered. Even at 3 episodes a day that's the best part of four months doing nothing else. Do they not deserve a rest?
Originally Posted by Dan R:
“Hey Zac, at least XF hasn't fallen to sub-4.5m like The Voice did this year, a programme you've totally showered praise over in the past. Where were your snide comments then, by the way?
You're really not as intellectual and wonderful as you think you are I'm afraid.”
“Hey Zac, at least XF hasn't fallen to sub-4.5m like The Voice did this year, a programme you've totally showered praise over in the past. Where were your snide comments then, by the way?
You're really not as intellectual and wonderful as you think you are I'm afraid.”
Dan.
You didn't answer the post, you go onto something else and avoided answering the post.
I think you would be better answering the allegations made that the stage invasion was rigged.
Zac has an opinion, Zac is entitled to that opinion. Many agree with it tonight. It wasn't snide it's an opinion.
As you didn't defend XF I assume you agree that the invasion was staged?
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