The Ratings Thread (Part 68)

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Dan R

26-11-2016

Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“Not sure how you can judge Dr Who's ratings as it's not been on for a year! Strictly brings back old contestants because that's what the audience wants in the absence of what they really crave; a champion of champions series (why there hasn't been one remains a mystery). And Call The Midwife is by no means a woman's programme if such a thing even exists. If it ain't broke why fix it?”

Agree. I think Christmas TV is as much about traditional programming in the schedule as it is about new shows.

People timeshift Christmas TV nowadays anyway, as last year showed.

RickLopez

26-11-2016

Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“Well, is it not possible that you've already seen some of those episodes? And last time I looked there were 52 weeks in a year so that still leaves 10 weeks uncovered. Even at 3 episodes a day that's the best part of four months doing nothing else. Do they not deserve a rest?”

Bradley Walsh manages it.

A.D.P

26-11-2016

They were contracted to 110 standard shows in 2016. Excluding the celebrity ones.

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Roscoe Barnes

26-11-2016

Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“Rzt posted this breakdown from yesterday on the other place, thought I should bring it across as no one else has.

It's hard to work out the figures because it's not in smaller intervals, but using the figure at the start of each programme that makes it:

BBC1:
The One Show: 3.4m
Still Open All Hours (r): 2.7m
EastEnders: 5.7m
Citizen Khan: 2.5m
HIGNFY: 3.9m
Walliams & Friend: 2.8m

ITV:
Emmerdale: 5.7m
Corrie 1: 6.3m
Countrywise: 2.7m
Corrie 2: 6.1m

Obviously that's not accurate but it's in the right area.

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BBC1 ITV 06:00 637.4000 39.15% 344.8000 21.18% 06:30 1,015.70 39.46% 517.4000 20.10% 07:00 1,537.20 39.34% 812.2000 20.78% 07:30 1,781.00 36.86% 913.9000 18.92% 08:00 1,910.60 35.52% 1,009.70 18.77% 08:30 1,865.80 37.63% 988.7000 19.94% 09:00 1,447.60 30.66% 1,110.30 23.52% 09:30 1,163.50 25.06% 1,169.80 25.19% 10:00 1,054.50 23.45% 1,232.60 27.41% 10:30 1,138.60 26.18% 974.5000 22.41% 11:00 727.5000 17.07% 1,013.70 23.78% 11:30 758.8000 17.33% 939.1000 21.45% 12:00 1,149.80 22.97% 909.2000 18.16% 12:30 1,812.30 31.46% 851.4000 14.78% 13:00 2,216.20 34.51% 910.9000 14.19% 13:30 1,725.90 26.55% 812.4000 12.50% 14:00 1,025.70 16.41% 861.6000 13.78% 14:30 1,007.60 16.47% 919.4000 15.03% 15:00 1,149.10 18.06% 806.5000 12.67% 15:30 1,253.40 17.32% 931.7000 12.88% 16:00 1,424.30 16.46% 1,916.90 22.15% 16:30 1,831.10 17.47% 2,674.70 25.52% 17:00 2,625.80 20.55% 3,287.60 25.73% 17:30 3,203.60 21.30% 3,745.80 24.91% 18:00 4,719.50 27.76% 3,672.10 21.60% 18:30 4,793.10 27.04% 3,458.40 19.51% 19:00 3,367.80 18.69% 5,711.80 31.70% 19:30 2,736.80 14.37% 6,346.80 33.32% 20:00 5,744.20 29.15% 2,704.00 13.72% 20:30 2,541.90 12.58% 6,101.60 30.21% 21:00 3,898.10 17.38% 8,023.60 35.78% 21:30 2,802.90 12.97% 8,239.70 38.14% 22:00 3,155.60 16.20% 7,697.60 39.51% 22:30 2,964.90 20.01% 2,325.90 15.69% 23:00 2,955.90 26.01% 1,189.40 10.47%

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That's interesting. Thanks for posting that. So that the breakdown for BBC1 and ITV every 30-mins.

Presumably those are the full slot averages excluding +1?!

Dan R

26-11-2016

Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Dan.

You didn't answer the post, you go onto something else and avoided answering the post.

I think you would be better answering the allegations made that the stage invasion was rigged.

Zac has an opinion, Zac is entitled to that opinion. Many agree with it tonight. It wasn't snide it's an opinion.

As you didn't defend XF I assume you agree that the invasion was staged?”

I dunno, maybe because there were actually two stage invaders, and that's why two people ran down the steps. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c..._channel=Ouchy Conspiracy disproved.

And logic should make you ask: why would a producer push the stage invader all the way down the steps? If it were fake it would have been a cue at most. Zac is way too happy about this but someone needs to rain on his agenda parade.

A.D.P

26-11-2016

Originally Posted by Dan R:
“I dunno, maybe because there were actually two stage invaders, and that's why two people ran down the steps. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c..._channel=Ouchy

And logic should make you ask: why would a producer push the stage invader all the way down the steps? If it were fake it would have been a cue at most. Zac is way too happy about this but someone needs to rain on his agenda parade.”

A push can be staged.....I.E. James Bond stuntman. Why a producer and where was security that's what they are paid to do.

XF is desperate for any publicity.

Baz_James

26-11-2016

Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“By all accounts it is broke, though. The ratings last Christmas Day were dreadful. In particular, Call The Midwife proves year after year that whole swathes of its audience would rather watch it on Boxing Day but the BBC continue to insist on having it clog up probably the prime slot on the 25th. They don't even have the excuse of it hurting Downton by being wasted there anymore, yet they still won't shift it. It's just nonsensical.”

When did 5.8m for both Who and Midwife get to be 'dreadful' on a day that Downton got 6.9 and Strictly 6.5? There's no evidence at all that Midwife would do better on Boxing Day. The BBC News was the only programme to top 6 million all day last year so it hardly looks like there's a huge audience all fresh and agog to be plumbed there.

Zac Quinn

26-11-2016

Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“They were contracted to 110 standard shows in 2016. Excluding the celebrity ones.

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They swap from repeats to new to repeats when the jackpot is won, for continuity and so the repeats may start at odd times depending on winners.

”

That's fascinating, I'd never realised so much thought went into it.

Dan R

26-11-2016

Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“A push can be staged.....I.E. James Bond stuntman.”

Well of course you're not going to accept the facts. But anyone who watched it can see what really happened.

The "

" on Zac's post sums him up in a nutshell. He needs to find something else in life to get excited about, not seeing X Factor get criticised. He's always been horribly snide towards Syco shows and it's time he was called out.

A.D.P

26-11-2016

Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“That's fascinating, I'd never realised so much thought went into it.”

I do not want to ruin it for many but I know in advance when it will occur. There was a POV or Radio Times complaint on continuity before.

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Zac Quinn

26-11-2016

Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“When did 5.8m for both Who and Midwife get to be 'dreadful' on a day that Downton got 6.9 and Strictly 6.5? There's no evidence at all that Midwife would do better on Boxing Day. The BBC News was the only programme to top 6 million all day last year so it hardly looks like there's a huge audience all fresh and agog to be plumbed there.”

Surely consider, for a moment, the possibility that it's precisely because it's exactly the same programmes in exactly the same order at almost exactly the same times every single year that viewers have given up on the big day.

This year was a golden opportunity to be the tonic needed to regenerate interest in the big day, including giving something to interest the next generation of avid TV watchers where the programming aimed in their direction usually ends at 6pm if not before, if only primetime had seen Frozen followed by Bake Off with CTM/SCD/MBB nowhere to be seen. But, alas, we look likely to be stuck with more or less the same old same old yet again.

A.D.P

26-11-2016

Originally Posted by Dan R:
“Well of course you're not going to accept the facts. But anyone who watched it can see what really happened.

The " " on Zac's post sums him up in a nutshell. He needs to find something else in life to get excited about, not seeing X Factor get criticised. He's always been horribly snide towards Syco shows and it's time he was called out.”

We all see facts with our eyes!

Chris1964

26-11-2016

Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“Not a great night for BBC1. HIGNFY down because of the IAC clash, Walliams flopped and Citizen Khan low as usual.

Still Game did better than Walliams, they need better comedies on a Friday to complement HIGNFY, otherwise it is left alone in the schedule and drops because of it.”

Im not sure such a thing exists. Still Game did ok but it has colossal support in Scotland, otherwise it would be as lost as Walliams and any other new comedy you want to fling at Friday at 9.30. Its just not a good slot for a genre that already, the public just don't take seriously any more outside of rehashed relics and Mrs Brown.

RickLopez

26-11-2016

Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“That's interesting. Thanks for posting that. So that the breakdown for BBC1 and ITV every 30-mins.

Presumably those are the full slot averages excluding +1?! ”

Yes, I think they are.

Baz_James

26-11-2016

Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“Bradley Walsh manages it.”

Well be sure to thank him with some flowers at his unexpectedly early funeral! Not that he actually does, of course. Apparently you've forgotten that the current season was on a break from 13th June to the 26th August a period of ... oh, hello, 10 weeks! Now where have I heard that number before?

lewiep93

26-11-2016

Is all of this really necessary? Why not treat posters with respect? And saying he wasn't intelligent earlier is just downright nasty.

Zac has every right to state his opinion.

Tindie_Bais

26-11-2016

Originally Posted by Score:
“
15:10 - Frozen
16:45 - BBC News
17:00 - Bake Off
18:00 - Doctor Who
19:00 - Strictly Come Dancing
20:15 - Call The Midwife
21:30 - EastEnders
22:30 - Mrs Brown's Boys
23:05 - Tracey Ullman

Or

15:10 - Frozen
16:40 - BBC News
16:50 - Bake Off
17:50 - Doctor Who
18:50 - Strictly Come Dancing
20:00 - Call The Midwife
21:15 - EastEnders
22:20 - Mrs Brown's Boys
23:00 - Tracey Ullman

The second schedule would involve some overruns but avoid having to pad out the news. Either way, ITV would probably respond with:

15:10 - The Lion King
17:00 - ITV News
17:15 - Emmerdale
18:15 - Blankety Blank
19:15 - Coronation Street
20:15 - Maigret
22:15 - TBA

Or possibly:

15:10 - The Lion King
16:50 - ITV News
17:00 - Emmerdale
18:00 - Blankety Blank
19:00 - Coronation Street
20:00 - Maigret
22:00 - TBA

.”

I actually think for once, ITV dose not look bad this year.
I would just one or two things , I do thing ED to Early.

BBC 1 looks really messy.

Doctor Who too early
EE 9:30 Start, I'm be drunk by then.

For BBC 1 I would like see like this

15:15 - Frozen
16 50 - BBC News
17:00 - Bake Off
18:00 - Call The Midwife
18:45- Strictly Come Dancing
20:00 - EastEnders
20:30 - Doctor Who
21:30 - EastEnders
22:00 News
22:15 Mr Brown boys

Or
17:00 - Strictly Come Dancing
18;15 Eastenders
18:45: Bake Off
19:45 Call the Midwife
20:30 Doctor Who
21:30 Eastenders
22:00 News

I change that so many times lol

Rob1985

26-11-2016

Of course it wasn't staged.

Rob1985

26-11-2016

Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“We never get tape checked +1 figures for soaps.”

Tapechecked/+1 numbers.

Baz_James

26-11-2016

Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“Surely consider, for a moment, the possibility that it's precisely because it's exactly the same programmes in exactly the same order at almost exactly the same times every single year that viewers have given up on the big day. ”

Ok. Considered. Still nonsense.

Zac Quinn

26-11-2016

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Is all of this really necessary? Why not treat posters with respect? And saying he wasn't intelligent earlier is just downright nasty.

Zac has every right to state his opinion.”

Thanks for the support Lewis, but just so you know, on this occasion I've decided to use the report button instead of giving him the satisfaction of a reply. Peace and love all x

Baz_James

26-11-2016

Originally Posted by Rob1985:
“Of course it wasn't staged.”

Really? http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...er-fix-9343749

Dan R

26-11-2016

As I've always said, I'm always up for intelligent debate. I've done lots of it. But this one grates me, why is he pushing false negative posts if he doesn't even watch the show?

Dan R

26-11-2016

Delete

Dan R

26-11-2016

Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“Really? http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...er-fix-9343749”

The group were the YouTube channel Trollstation, a whole load of them. No conspiracy.

I get why people see this as suspicious of course. But since more and more details have emerged, this isn't one to investigate further.

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