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Old 17-08-2016, 21:39
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In the Newzoids thread one of the posters has said this will be back on the 3rd September following The X Factor. I don't know how true this is.
Ties in with the slots available. Last year there were 7 episodes of Keyhole before Ross returned. 6 X Newzoids + the Bourne repeat fits that slot, with Ross returning in the same week as last year. With Keyhole not returning until next year I don't see what else could go in that slot and nor is there really anywhere else for Newzoids to go.

It'll certainly have a better shot than last time.
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Old 17-08-2016, 22:12
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Some dire scheduling from Channel 5 w/c 29th August with a brand new series of The Hotel Inspector Returns going out 10.30pm-11.30pm on the Tuesday, Impractical Jokers UK ditched from the schedule and the finale of Suspects: The Enemy Within going out 11pm-12am on the Wednesday.
Looks like Impractical Jokers UK is switching to Saturdays at 11.30pm where they've been repeating it recently. Such a subtle slot change that, I'm sure nobody will notice they are burning it off because the figures were catastrophic!

The Hotel Inspector Returns is a bit of a waste there, although it never does as well as the main programme. Still, I'd have it at 7pm even over 10.30pm.

The biggest head-scratcher though remains what is going on with the weekend films with only one movie all weekend that week ! I'm starting to think there is more to it than just contracts ending, maybe something to do with programme quotas?
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Old 17-08-2016, 23:34
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GB Hockey tweeted that the BBC news will be moved on Friday so they can show the whole of the womens hockey gold medal final.

Bit messy today going from 1 to 2 then back to 1 to watch the semis. Hopefully good figures though. Some excellent ratings so far.
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Old 17-08-2016, 23:59
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GB Hockey tweeted that the BBC news will be moved on Friday so they can show the whole of the womens hockey gold medal final.

Bit messy today going from 1 to 2 then back to 1 to watch the semis. Hopefully good figures though. Some excellent ratings so far.
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Old 18-08-2016, 09:22
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Likewise it was a silly decision not to put eastenders on bbc2 for a fortnight it's not the powerhouse it once was
None of the soaps are to be fair. EE is doing better on BBC1 than it would be doing on BBC2.

I'm glad to see it supported and kept on the main channel for once. All said and done it is still one of the beeb's most popular shows that contributes significantly to share week in week out. They throw it under a bus way too easily sometimes.

Not saying this is true of you Ritchie but knowing this thread some will have only wanted it moved to weaken its position. I bet the idea of it being on 2 and against Emmerdale brought sheer delight to a few. Sadly, for them, it was not to be.

If there hadn't been an onslaught of Emmerdale against it then actually I wouldn't have minded seeing it on 2.
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Old 18-08-2016, 09:27
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Looks like Impractical Jokers UK is switching to Saturdays at 11.30pm where they've been repeating it recently. Such a subtle slot change that, I'm sure nobody will notice they are burning it off because the figures were catastrophic!
And who could've seen that coming? Everybody, everybody except them.

The Hotel Inspector Returns is a bit of a waste there, although it never does as well as the main programme. Still, I'd have it at 7pm even over 10.30pm.
It's cookie-cutter formula programme-making that might as well have the same script every week. There's a good programme to be done about re-vamping hotels but this is no longer it, if indeed it ever was.

The biggest head-scratcher though remains what is going on with the weekend films...
Not that weekend but if this is their idea of good programming then they've lost the plot even more than last year:

21st AUGUST(!)

12 noon A Christmas Song
1.45 The Christmas Bunny
3.40 Lucky Christmas
5.25 Defending Santa
7 Christmas Makes you LOL
8 Can't Pay? We'll take it Away Christmas Special

Is it going to be the same procession of inappropriate programming all the way to December now? And they wonder why they were demoted to the Freeview pages in Radio Times..

I don't know about everyone else but I'm hugely impressed with this new Viacom broom. Wowser! What a change!
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Old 18-08-2016, 09:32
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And who could've seen that coming? Everybody, everybody except them.



It's cookie-cutter formula programme-making that might as well have the same script every week. There's a good programme to be done about re-vamping hotels but this is no longer it, if indeed it ever was.



Not that weekend but if this is their idea of good programming then they've lost the plot even more than last year:

21st AUGUST(!)

12 noon A Christmas Song
1.45 The Christmas Bunny
3.40 Lucky Christmas
5.25 Defending Santa
7 Christmas Makes you LOL
8 Can't Pay? We'll take it Away Christmas Special

Is it going to be the same procession of inappropriate programming all the way to December now? And they wonder why they were demoted to the Freeview pages in Radio Times..

I don't know about everyone else but I'm hugely impressed with this new Viacom broom. Wowser! What a change!
People complain about ITVs offering quite often, but C5 might as well be called tat tv. It clearly has appeal to a tiny minority of viewers and if it disappeared from the EPG who would even notice? Is Chavsville the denomination they ate trying to attract? Says a lot when their highest rating show is tge moronic Big Brother.
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Old 18-08-2016, 09:39
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Run the News on News Channel. Everybody has access to it.
The BBC news has become indistinguishable from their Olympics coverage these days. If you're lucky you might get some real news after they've finished jingoistically waving the flag but their conduct over the Olympics is the final nail in the coffin for their credibility as far as I'm concerned. Someone should lose their job over the shameful way it's been programmed the last two weeks.
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Old 18-08-2016, 09:44
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The BBC news has become indistinguishable from their Olympics coverage these days. If you're lucky you might get some real news after they've finished jingoistically waving the flag but their conduct over the Olympics is the final nail in the coffin for their credibility as far as I'm concerned. Someone should lose their job over the shameful way it's been programmed the last two weeks.
Im British. I expect British broadcasters to support team GB and to tell me how they are doing. Olympians are actually achievers. They bring a bit of joy to the world for a fortnight. The usual mundane things are still occurring in the world, but it is nice to have some positive and good things headlining the news for a change. Why are you so grumpy about it?
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Old 18-08-2016, 09:45
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None of the soaps are to be fair. EE is doing better on BBC1 than it would be doing on BBC2.

I'm glad to see it supported and kept on the main channel for once. All said and done it is still one of the beeb's most popular shows that contributes significantly to share week in week out. They throw it under a bus way too easily sometimes.

Not saying this is true of you Ritchie but knowing this thread some will have only wanted it moved to weaken its position. I bet the idea of it being on 2 and against Emmerdale brought sheer delight to a few. Sadly, for them, it was not to be.

If there hadn't been an onslaught of Emmerdale against it then actually I wouldn't have minded seeing it on 2.
I love eastenders it's the only soap I watch religiously, I would be watching whether on bbc1 or 2, my point being is I assume pretty much any fan would do the same therefore there is always gonna be that small section of the audience that have it on as background tv whilst there cooking or cleaning etc as it's the 1st channel on the listings. EE held up well during London 2012 so I imagine it would have again.

I just think it doesn't hold much logic to keep swapping and changing the Olympics from side to side, there was again a lot of complaints on twitter last night about the hockey going and forth from bbc1 and 2.
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Old 18-08-2016, 09:50
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BBC1
EastEnders: 5.73m (30.2%)
Olympics 2016 (18:59-19:58): 4.35m (25.1%)
Olympics 2016 (20:30-22:00): 4.21m (21.3%)

BBC2
Olympics 2016 (21:59-22:32): 3.39m (19.2%)
Olympics 2016 (20:00-20:29): 2.15m (11.3%)
Skies Above Britain: 1.57m (7.7%)

BBC4
Olympics 2016 (19:00-22:00): 0.41m (2.2%)
Olympics 2016 (22:00-02:00): 0.20m (2.6%)
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Old 18-08-2016, 09:51
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Im British. I expect British broadcasters to support team GB and to tell me how they are doing. Olympians are actually achievers. They bring a bit of joy to the world for a fortnight. The usual mundane things are still occurring in the world, but it is nice to have some positive and good things headlining the news for a change. Why are you so grumpy about it?
We've done this in the other thread. The BBC should not be promoting it to the top of the agenda over other real news. They do it because it's a way of patting themselves on the back and cross-promoting their Olympics coverage. No other broadcaster is leading with medal nonsense to the extent the BBC is.

Got nothing to do with being "grumpy" (are you five years old?), but everything to do with running a grown-up news service where sport and entertainment news is reported on in proportion and after more important stories. I'll not be explaining this to you again so try and take it on-board this time.
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Old 18-08-2016, 09:53
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Im British. I expect British broadcasters to support team GB and to tell me how they are doing. Olympians are actually achievers. They bring a bit of joy to the world for a fortnight. The usual mundane things are still occurring in the world, but it is nice to have some positive and good things headlining the news for a change.
And it's not as if those mundane things aren't being reported anyway.

Plus, historically, late July/August has always been seen as "silly season" - the time when Parliament is in recess (so much less political news).
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Old 18-08-2016, 09:56
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People complain about ITVs offering quite often, but C5 might as well be called tat tv. It clearly has appeal to a tiny minority of viewers and if it disappeared from the EPG who would even notice? Is Chavsville the denomination they ate trying to attract? Says a lot when their highest rating show is tge moronic Big Brother.
There is another side to C5 which is often overlooked/ignored, they do some good factual series such as:

Secrets of Great British Castles
Loch Lomond: A Year In The Wild
Inside Buckingham Palace
The Great African Migration (nature series)
New Lives In The Wild
Alex Polizzi's Secret Italy / Italian Islands
Britain's Bloodiest Dynasty (History series about the Plantagenets)
Rome: The World's First Superpower
Hiroshima: The Aftermath
Tales from The Tower (Tower of London documentary)

These are unlikely to appear to 'chavs'. There are some good programmes on the channel, you just need to look past Big Brother and Benefits.
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Old 18-08-2016, 09:56
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We've done this in the other thread. The BBC should not be promoting it to the top of the agenda over other real news. They do it because it's a way of patting themselves on the back and cross-promoting their Olympics coverage. No other broadcaster is leading with medal nonsense to the extent the BBC is.
Maybe because those other broadcasters don't have the same unrestricted access to the amount of recorded material that the BBC has (c.f. Sky News using simple, still shots).

All the main newspapers (bar the Daily "Big Brother" Star) are either leading on it or have large articles on their front (and inside) pages, even the "serious broadsheets" such as the Telegraph and Times.
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Old 18-08-2016, 09:58
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Channel 4 (exc. +1)
Great Canal Journeys: 1.32m (7.0%)
Britain's Benefit Tenants: 0.94m (4.7%)
Man Down: 0.44m (2.6%)

Channel 5 (exc. +1)
Celebrity Big Brother: 1.47m (7.3%)
GPs: Behind Closed Doors: 0.80m (4.3%)
Suspects: the Enemy Within: 0.33m (2.1%)

E4 (exc. +1)
Hollyoaks: 0.42m (2.5%)
Containment: 0.22m (1.1%)
Coach Trip: Road to Ibiza: 0.21m (1.2%)
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Old 18-08-2016, 10:05
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Maybe because those other broadcasters don't have the same unrestricted access to the amount of recorded material that the BBC has (c.f. Sky News using simple, still shots).
That's no justification for promoting it to the lead story night after night.

All the main newspapers (bar the Daily "Big Brother" Star) are either leading on it or have large articles on their front (and inside) pages, even the "serious broadsheets" such as the Telegraph and Times.
I was talking about the likes of Sky and C4, not the papers.

Plus, historically, late July/August has always been seen as "silly season" - the time when Parliament is in recess (so much less political news).
Brexit, New PM, Aleppo, Trump/Clinton, US shootings etc....By every commentators admission these are the most turbulent times in living memory but Trotty and her BF just won medals so let's hear about that first.
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Old 18-08-2016, 10:06
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I just think it doesn't hold much logic to keep swapping and changing the Olympics from side to side, there was again a lot of complaints on twitter last night about the hockey going and forth from bbc1 and 2.
With the BBC only having one Olympic channel from 2018, wouldn't it be great if they just bit the bullet and made it BBC Two?

The Winter Olympics of 2018 would be the ideal opportunity to get viewers 'conditioned' to switching to BBC Two and knowing that's where they have to go.
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Old 18-08-2016, 10:15
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That's no justification for promoting it to the lead story night after night.



I was talking about the likes of Sky and C4, not the papers.



Brexit, New PM, Aleppo, Trump/Clinton, US shootings etc....By every commentators admission these are the most turbulent times in living memory but Trotty and her BF just won medals so let's hear about that first.
New PM is on Holiday, Referendum was 2 months a go and Brexit won't happen for at least 2 years, The Labour party is dead so who cares who is its dead leader walking, THey have been fighting in Aleppo for 5 years and people are bored rigid already by the many gaffes of Trump and its August so there really isn't that much news
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Old 18-08-2016, 10:15
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With the BBC only having one Olympic channel from 2018, wouldn't it be great if they just bit the bullet and made it BBC Two?

The Winter Olympics of 2018 would be the ideal opportunity to get viewers 'conditioned' to switching to BBC Two and knowing that's where they have to go.
Winter Olympics will like usual be mostly on BBC 2 anyway
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Old 18-08-2016, 10:20
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New PM is on Holiday, Referendum was 2 months a go and Brexit won't happen for at least 2 years, The Labour party is dead so who cares who is its dead leader walking, THey have been fighting in Aleppo for 5 years and people are bored rigid already by the many gaffes of Trump and its August so there really isn't that much news
65 million people in the country - 4/8 million choose to watch people playing games with each other in Brazil.
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Old 18-08-2016, 10:25
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BBC1
EastEnders: 5.73m (30.2%)
Olympics 2016 (18:59-19:58): 4.35m (25.1%)
Olympics 2016 (20:30-22:00): 4.21m (21.3%)

BBC2
Olympics 2016 (21:59-22:32): 3.39m (19.2%)
Olympics 2016 (20:00-20:29): 2.15m (11.3%)
Skies Above Britain: 1.57m (7.7%)

BBC4
Olympics 2016 (19:00-22:00): 0.41m (2.2%)
Olympics 2016 (22:00-02:00): 0.20m (2.6%)
That's not a bad rating for EastEnders on a Wednesday.
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Old 18-08-2016, 10:25
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Brexit, New PM, Aleppo, Trump/Clinton, US shootings etc....By every commentators admission these are the most turbulent times in living memory but Trotty and her BF just won medals so let's hear about that first.
It must be really sad for you to have this mindset. Also Laura Trott and Jason Kenney have become the most decorated Male and Female olympians in British history, surely that is a news story? Anyway not much else is being reported anyway. Well it will be back to normal on Monday so you lot can enjoy misery news uninterupted. After the Nice terrorist attacks, Turkey's failed coup, Germany shootings, Trump (who I am sick of hearing about), Corbyn v Smith v Labour supporters v Labour MPs drag fest. The Olympics have come a welcome distraction to it all
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Old 18-08-2016, 10:29
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Other news channels are available.....
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Old 18-08-2016, 10:40
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We've done this in the other thread. The BBC should not be promoting it to the top of the agenda over other real news. They do it because it's a way of patting themselves on the back and cross-promoting their Olympics coverage. No other broadcaster is leading with medal nonsense to the extent the BBC is.

Got nothing to do with being "grumpy" (are you five years old?), but everything to do with running a grown-up news service where sport and entertainment news is reported on in proportion and after more important stories. I'll not be explaining this to you again so try and take it on-board this time.
Am I five years old? What a ridiculous question. I ask why you are grumpy because your posts suggest that you are. I am a 47 year old man who has an ability to observe how others perceive things. I do think BBC News has unwarranted or lengthy Sports bulletins sometimes - they missed several of Theresa May's cabinet postings due to their insistence on reporting Sports/Weather News in their usual slots - but overall, I find BBC News an excellent service. It seems to be able to identify the mood of its audience. If anything significant had happened, then chances are all Olympic coverage would just be switched to BBC2 or suspended depending on how important it was. But, there is nothing significant happening. The PM is on holiday until next Wednesday, EU leaders are also in summer recess. The American election isn't until November and the Labour leadership has been reported - and even had a live debate on BBC2 yesterday. The wars all over the world are still the same wars and have not changed, we don't get to hear about them ad nauseum anyway. BBC local News is still reporting local News. BBC South for instance, had an in depth report on illegal migrants coming into the ports at Portsmouth and Southampton as they look for other ways to enter England. So, there are News stories happening all the time.

The emphasis on the Olympics is because it is currently the biggest story occurring in our country. Our team has made history. Their success is unprecedented. We have won Gold medals in almost ALL sports. People are excited about it and want to know about it. After all, BBC News is meant to reflect British News as a priority unless International News supersedes that priority. So, for the sake of a fortnight, where people generally seem to be a bit cheerier as we enjoy our country's success at a major International event, I'd say the News coverage is pretty much spot on.
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