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Old 28-11-2016, 15:12
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I'm so shocked about Humans. It's got to be one of the fastest 'hero to zero' moments for a TV drama ever.
Do you think Channel 4 knew Humans was going to go this way? They have scheduled it against I'm A Celebrity and it's pretty obvious that BBC1 is using the same slot and competition to burn off My Mother And Other Strangers where it will do minimum damage.
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Old 28-11-2016, 15:21
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Do you think Channel 4 knew Humans was going to go this way? They have scheduled it against I'm A Celebrity and it's pretty obvious that BBC1 is using the same slot and competition to burn off My Mother And Other Strangers where it will do minimum damage.
Channel 4 has seriously lost its way this year, if you take out the Paralympics there has not been anything if interest on C4. Its creative director Jay Hunt isn't creating anything new.

In the Broadcasting forum there us a thread where many are posting its lost its way completely.
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Old 28-11-2016, 15:23
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Do you think Channel 4 knew Humans was going to go this way? They have scheduled it against I'm A Celebrity and it's pretty obvious that BBC1 is using the same slot and competition to burn off My Mother And Other Strangers where it will do minimum damage.
I'm not sure they saw a slump quite like this coming.

I'm not particularly surprised as it lost nearly half its audience across the first series so was always likely to decline. Pretty shocking how far it has fallen though, it's lost over half the audience this series started with! Surely they won't bring it back? They need to cut their losses and dump it, like they did with Indian Summers.
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Old 28-11-2016, 15:27
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I'm not sure they saw a slump quite like this coming.

I'm not particularly surprised as it lost nearly half its audience across the first series so was always likely to decline. Pretty shocking how far it has fallen though, it's lost over half the audience this series started with! Surely they won't bring it back? They need to cut their losses and dump it, like they did with Indian Summers.
They better hope No Offence doesn't suffer the same fate. Channel 4 drama can do well as evident with National Treasure but putting it on Sunday has not helped at all.
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Old 28-11-2016, 15:27
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I'm not sure they saw a slump quite like this coming.

I'm not particularly surprised as it lost nearly half its audience across the first series so was always likely to decline. Pretty shocking how far it has fallen though, it's lost over half the audience this series started with! Surely they won't bring it back? They need to cut their losses and dump it, like they did with Indian Summers.
The problem is the channel not any one show now.
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Old 28-11-2016, 15:44
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Channel 4 are evidently just not very good at nurturing their dramas.
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Old 28-11-2016, 15:47
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I'm not sure they saw a slump quite like this coming.

I'm not particularly surprised as it lost nearly half its audience across the first series so was always likely to decline. Pretty shocking how far it has fallen though, it's lost over half the audience this series started with! Surely they won't bring it back? They need to cut their losses and dump it, like they did with Indian Summers.
This is Channel 4 though. They'll probably announce that it'll run all year round or something stupid like that.
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Old 28-11-2016, 15:59
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BARB figures for CBBC, Top 10 - w/e 13 Nov 2016:

7 day data (000s) 28 day data (000s)
1 JUNIOR BAKE OFF (THU 1731) 341 n/a
2 JUNIOR BAKE OFF (WED 1733) 308 n/a
3 JUNIOR BAKE OFF (FRI 1734) 299 n/a
4 JUNIOR BAKE OFF (MON 1731) 295 n/a
5 JUNIOR BAKE OFF (TUE 1733) 294 n/a
6 OPERATION OUCH! - HOSPITAL TAKEOVER (MON 1700) 242 n/a
7 SO AWKWARD (THU 1629) 236 n/a
8 SHOW ME WHAT YOU'RE MADE OF (TUE 1702) 225 n/a
9 THE NEXT STEP (MON 1630) 224 n/a
10 THE DUMPING GROUND (FRI 1633) 207 n/a

It's doing well
It is/was - and it was lovely show and deserved to do so.

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Old 28-11-2016, 16:14
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Thanks lewi

BIB Well clearly from these ratings, even excl +1 Emmerdale is ahead of EE. So for a good 5 weeks its been on the back foot.

Excellent for SCD and PEII.

I'm A Celeb doing really well, with almost all timeshifts over 2m. No other show could sustain such high ratings for 3 weeks.
You and others keep saying this but in overall reach EE will be way ahead.
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Old 28-11-2016, 16:15
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So is that it for the Broadcast app now? Will it ever work again?
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Old 28-11-2016, 16:18
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I like Ch4 Christmas Day Schedule too. Is The Sword In The Stone a premiere?
The first showing was on Boxing Day 1992 on ITV. It has also been shown on BBC1, BBC2 and Channel 5 (most recently on 23rd August last year).

Saturday 26 December 1992

BBC1
14:10 - Film: Escape to Victory (R): 5.0m
16:05-16:55 - Simply the Best: Torvill and Dean: 5.1m
17:15 - Dad's Army: Battle of the Giants (R): 11.21m
18:10 - Big Break Christmas Celebrity Special: 12.86m
18:50 - Noel's Christmas House Party: 15.93m
19:45 - Last of the Summer Wine: 12.94m
20:15 - Lovejoy: The Prague Sun: 11.63m
21:50 - News and Sport: 10.80m
22:05 - Film: When Harry Met Sally (Premiere): 8.7m

ITV
13:10 - Winnie the Pooh and a Day for Eeyore (Premiere): 5.8m
13:45 - Film: Robin Hood (R): 7.3m
15:15 - Film : The Sword in the Stone (Premiere) 8.25m
16:45 - News: 9.26m
17:05 - New Baywatch Preview: 6.5m
18:00 - Beadle's about: 7.3m
18:30 - You Bet!: 6.9m
19:30 - The Darling Buds of May: 9.69m
20:30 - Film: Arthur 2: On the Rocks (Premiere): 8.22m

Everything else on ITV below 4.9m

BBC2
13:15 - Film: The Water Babies (R): 1.93m
14:45-16:35 - Elizabeth R (R): 2.15m
23:00 - A Ghost Story for Christmas: A Warning to the Curious (R): 1.96m

Everything else on BBC2 below 1.67m

C4
12:30-15:15 - Racing from Kempton Park: 1.41m
16:40-18:30 - Film: Cry, the Beloved Country (R): 1.24m
22:00-23:05 - Americana: 1.51m

Rating for Brookside omnibus not known. Everything else on C4 below 1.24m

Sky Movies
22:00 - Film: The Silence of the Lambs: 1.5476m

Sky 1
20:00 - Unsolved Mysteries: 361.0k
21:00 - Cops: 308.4k
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Old 28-11-2016, 16:22
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I think ITV have The Dark Knight Rises on NYD.

But personally I think thy should launh Vera on this day.
Is it ready for broadcast? Last year it started on Jan 31st and that was the earliest ever; usually April.
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Old 28-11-2016, 16:23
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Would the Chase do any better? It's doing great at 5pm but that's an easier slot and everyone knows it is on. My mum adores TP but she never knew it was shown on a Saturday. The BBC builds shows over years, allowing people to find and grow to like a show. Pointless and Countryfile are great examples.

ITV have no LE shows drawing over 4m that I can think off besides the Cowell and Dec ones. Once you see 4m as being a big hit, you start to view 3m differently.
There's less justification for this scale in the New Year though since the BBC are also struggling there.

Maybe the BBC has decided that the LE era is over and people want drama on weekends. First Sunday, now Saturday with Who and Taboo. And of course Casualty. Hope not.

PS - has the Cube been axed then?
Am I the only one who thinks Casualty looks really out of place on a Saturday night? These days, it looks and feels so much more like a midweek 8pm drama than a Saturday 9pm drama.
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Old 28-11-2016, 16:24
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Is it ready for broadcast? Last year it started on Jan 31st and that was the earliest ever; usually April.
It'll be probably that or Endeavour, they could have TDKR on NYD then have Vera or Endeavour on the Monday since that'll be a bank holiday followed the second episode on the 8th January
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Old 28-11-2016, 16:25
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Am I the only one who thinks Casualty looks really out of place on a Saturday night? These days, it looks and feels so much more like a midweek 8pm drama than a Saturday 9pm drama.
It gets reasonable viewers against ITV shows and hard to place it anywhere else.

Holby City is on Tuesdays Ex Scotland. Generally rules out Wednesday as you wouldn't want it on twice.
Thursday Vs ITV soaps at 8 pm. Uses up a drama slot or valuable slot if at 9 pm.

Monday is ITV soap full, and in Winter used for top drama like Silient Witness.
Friday would have to be 8.30 and Vs ITV soap and breaks up comedy night.

So basically hasn't got a home midweek.
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Old 28-11-2016, 16:29
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C4 Christmas Day (according to Digiguide)

09:00 Film : Postman Pat The Movie
10:40 The Simpsons (x2)
11:35 Father Christmas
12:05 The Snowman
12:35 Film: The Sword in the Stone
14:05 C4 News
14:15 The Alternative Christmas Message
14:25 Film: It's A Wonderful Life
16:55 The Snowman and the Snowdog
17:30 We're Going on a Bear Hunt
18:00 Film: Home Alone

20:00 Gogglesprogs Christmas Special
21:00 8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown
22:00 Alan Carr's Christmas Chat Show

Again from square eyes on the Radio Times Thread

I like Ch4 Christmas Day Schedule too. Is The Sword In The Stone a premiere?

BIB This part of the day should do well. 2m+.
Must admit that is a great Xmas Day schedule from Channel 4. They seem to go a lot more "mainstream" on Xmas Day these days. It was only 10-15 years ago that it seemed Xmas Day on C4 meant opera, ballet and foreign cinema. Interesting that they've got It's a Wonderful Life on Xmas Day itself when that film is more commonly associated with Xmas Eve. In fact, I think it was last year or the year before C4 did indeed show It's a Wonderful Life on the afternoon of Xmas Eve because that's when I remember watching it.
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Old 28-11-2016, 16:32
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The first showing was on Boxing Day 1992 on ITV. It has also been shown on BBC1, BBC2 and Channel 5 (most recently on 23rd August last year).

Saturday 26 December 1992

BBC1
14:10 - Film: Escape to Victory (R): 5.0m
16:05-16:55 - Simply the Best: Torvill and Dean: 5.1m
17:15 - Dad's Army: Battle of the Giants (R): 11.21m
18:10 - Big Break Christmas Celebrity Special: 12.86m
18:50 - Noel's Christmas House Party: 15.93m
19:45 - Last of the Summer Wine: 12.94m
20:15 - Lovejoy: The Prague Sun: 11.63m
21:50 - News and Sport: 10.80m
22:05 - Film: When Harry Met Sally (Premiere): 8.7m

Everything else on BBC1 below 4.9m

ITV
13:10 - Winnie the Pooh and a Day for Eeyore (Premiere): 5.8m
13:45 - Film: Robin Hood (R): 7.3m
15:15 - Film : The Sword in the Stone (Premiere) 8.25m
16:45 - News: 9.26m
17:05 - New Baywatch Preview: 6.5m
18:00 - Beadle's about: 7.3m
18:30 - You Bet!: 6.9m
19:30 - The Darling Buds of May: 9.69m
20:30 - Film: Arthur 2: On the Rocks (Premiere): 8.22m

Everything else on ITV below 4.9m
From the glory days when Dad's Army used to trounce Baywatch, the world's most popular programme at the time, in the Saturday evening ratings battle. Happy memories.
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Old 28-11-2016, 16:44
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Is it ready for broadcast? Last year it started on Jan 31st and that was the earliest ever; usually April.
Yes I would think so. Earlier this year the started Endeavour first, which Vera took over (on the 31st).

I would think Vera would hold up better than anything else ITV can find for that slot. I think it could hold 5m against Sherlock, and stop ITV being totally whiped.

And then The Dark Knight Rises can be shown on the following Saturday after whatever is shown beforehand.
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Old 28-11-2016, 16:54
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You and others keep saying this but in overall reach EE will be way ahead.
EE will be adding a lot more through iPlayer (on apps and web which isn't accounted for) than Corrie and Emmerdale through ITV Hub. It will certainly push it ahead of Emmerdale a bit closer to Corrie in overall viewers.

It would be great if they could include app and web views in the consolidated ratings eventually because there is a disadvantage to younger skewing shows.
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Old 28-11-2016, 16:56
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I'm not sure they saw a slump quite like this coming.

I'm not particularly surprised as it lost nearly half its audience across the first series so was always likely to decline. Pretty shocking how far it has fallen though, it's lost over half the audience this series started with! Surely they won't bring it back? They need to cut their losses and dump it, like they did with Indian Summers.
That isn't strictly true. It lost a lot in its overnights, but every episode was consistently over 4.8m in its 28 day rating, and over 3.5m in its 7 day ratings.
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Old 28-11-2016, 17:56
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EE will be adding a lot more through iPlayer (on apps and web which isn't accounted for) than Corrie and Emmerdale through ITV Hub. It will certainly push it ahead of Emmerdale a bit closer to Corrie in overall viewers.

It would be great if they could include app and web views in the consolidated ratings eventually because there is a disadvantage to younger skewing shows.
You could get the figures from the TV Player Report and add them up for us.
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Old 28-11-2016, 17:59
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That isn't strictly true. It lost a lot in its overnights, but every episode was consistently over 4.8m in its 28 day rating, and over 3.5m in its 7 day ratings.
Humans so suits the boxset generation. We're stacking the second series to watch nightly.
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Old 28-11-2016, 18:05
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ITV this Christmas:

Tuesday 27th @ 7.30pm - Harry Potter & The Goblet of Fire
Wednesday 28th @ 7.30pm - Harry Potter & The Order of The Phoneix
Thursday 29th @ 7.30pm - Harry Potter & The Half Blood Prince
Friday 30th @ 8pm - Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows Part 1

I kid you not. Presumably Hallows 2 will go on New Year's Eve. So incredibly lazy, yet still somehow an improvement on the tripe that's gone in those slots in the last couple of years.

The first 3 have afternoon screenings on Xmas Eve, Day and Boxing Day.
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Old 28-11-2016, 18:07
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ITV this Christmas:

Tuesday 27th @ 7.30pm - Harry Potter & The Goblet of Fire
Wednesday 28th @ 7.30pm - Harry Potter & The Order of The Phoneix
Thursday 29th @ 7.30pm - Harry Potter & The Half Blood Prince
Friday 30th @ 8pm - Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows Part 1

I kid you not. Presumably Hallows 2 will go on New Year's Eve. So incredibly lazy, yet still somehow an improvement on the tripe that's gone in those slots in the last couple of years.

The first 3 have afternoon screenings on Xmas Eve, Day and Boxing Day.
Well they're certainly making good use of the rights!

I doubt many people are going to want to watch the Potter films daily over Christmas though.
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Old 28-11-2016, 18:09
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ITV this Christmas:

Tuesday 27th @ 7.30pm - Harry Potter & The Goblet of Fire
Wednesday 28th @ 7.30pm - Harry Potter & The Order of The Phoneix
Thursday 29th @ 7.30pm - Harry Potter & The Half Blood Prince
Friday 30th @ 8pm - Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows Part 1

I kid you not. Presumably Hallows 2 will go on New Year's Eve. So incredibly lazy, yet still somehow an improvement on the tripe that's gone in those slots in the last couple of years.

The first 3 have afternoon screenings on Xmas Eve, Day and Boxing Day.
Hang on, so they're moving the soaps? Coronation Street displaced on Wednesday and Friday, Emmerdale displaced on Thursday. Odd move; I wonder where the three episodes will go?

It'd make more sense to me to air The Deathy Hallows 2 on New Year's Day rather than New Year's Eve.

I think you asked earlier whether digiguide had noted any changes to BBC One's Christmas Day schedule - they haven't as of yet.
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