The Ratings Thread (Part 68)

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Steve Williams

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“I wonder if Landward will be replaced in Scotland?”

No, Scotland are showing it tomorrow instead of Mastermind.

You may have noticed the New Year's Eve concert has been confirmed. The act's a bit of a draw, I think - http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...016/robbie-nye

cylon6

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“I have, wait a little bit and I'll post them ”

That's great! Thanks Ray.

wizzywick

02-12-2016

BBC to play hardball and refuse Channel Four from airing Bake Off until 2018.

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...ries-next-year

wizzywick

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“On Christmas Day the indents are " in vision" people passionate about BBC programmes from age 6 to 80, pre recorded and on the theme of sharing.

They will introduce every BBC show on the day. They will replace normal BBC continuity announcements on Christmas Day.

Some say it starts on Sunday, it is this weekend, I think before SCD at 6.59 but maybe as early as post The One Show tonight.”

Not on ALL shows. On a few. Likely to be DW, SCD and EE.

cylon6

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“BBC to play hardball and refuse Channel Four from airing Bake Off until 2018.

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...ries-next-year”

Good!

A.D.P

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Not on ALL shows. On a few. Likely to be DW, SCD and EE.”

Ok, thought more, from say TOTP to MBB.

wizzywick

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Ok, thought more, from say TOTP to MBB.”

We'll see. But I suspect Frozen will be a regular CA doing it over ident. (Gosh - that sounds rude!)

A.D.P

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“We'll see. But I suspect Frozen will be a regular CA doing it over ident. (Gosh - that sounds rude!)”

As long as the CA doesn't, " let one go" at the same time.

Baz_James

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“BBC to play hardball and refuse Channel Four from airing Bake Off until 2018.

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...ries-next-year”

A Bake Off production source said: “We can’t understand why the BBC would want to delay this programme .....”

Let me count the ways ..... Pathetic!

ftv

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Good!”

I should think most people will have forgotten about Bake Off by 2018, the public memory is short.And no doubt Jay Hunt will have moved on by then.

Baz_James

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“
You may have noticed the New Year's Eve concert has been confirmed. The act's a bit of a draw, I think - http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...016/robbie-nye”

That's me early to bed then!

Dancc

02-12-2016

Delaying doesn't really achieve anything, does it? It's a waste of time really. I would say I expect better from Auntie but I don't - something similarly petty happened with Neighbours.

Baz_James

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Delaying doesn't really achieve anything, does it? It's a waste of time, really. I would say I expect better from Auntie but I don't - something similarly petty happened with Neighbours.”

Well let's see. It sends out the message that contract terms must be honoured. It discourages other production companies from pulling similar stunts. It shows fans of the show that BBC really did everything in their power to keep the show out of the hands of people whose only concern is making money from it. And it puts Jay Hunt's nose out of joint and with a bit of luck gets her fired before C4 goes into a complete tailspin and crashes. All seems like a good day's work to me.

A.D.P

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“A Bake Off production source said: “We can’t understand why the BBC would want to delay this programme .....”

Let me count the ways ..... Pathetic!”

It's business... it's a contract...er...the way Love went about it was underhand, however BBC Worldwide loose out as they distributed it.

Originally Posted by ftv:
“I should think most people will have forgotten about Bake Off by 2018, the public memory is short.And no doubt Jay Hunt will have moved on by then.”

Agree, with C4s ratings failing, she is going before GBBO starts.

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Delaying doesn't really achieve anything, does it? It's a waste of time really. I would say I expect better from Auntie but I don't - something similarly petty happened with Neighbours.”

Well let's the BBC start a new show with Mel, Sue and Mary.

Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“Well let's see. It sends out the message that contract terms must be honoured. It discourages other production companies from pulling similar stunts. It shows fans of the show that BBC really did everything in their power to keep the show out of the hands of people whose only concern is making money from it. And it puts Jay Hunt's nose out of joint and with a bit of luck gets her fired before C4 goes into a complete tailspin and crashes. All seems like a good day's work to me.”

Agree.

Jonwo

02-12-2016

Neighbours finished on BBC One on the Friday and was on 5 the following Monday, ITV didn't allow 5 to air Home and Away for over a year IIRC

Dancc

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Neighbours finished on BBC One on the Friday and was on 5 the following Monday, ITV didn't allow 5 to air Home and Away for over a year IIRC”

Apologies - getting my Aussie soaps mixed up.

lewiep93

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“That's great! Thanks Ray.”

Wrong person cylon, get it right

And, as promised, The Two Ronnies ratings! Took a lot longer than expected.

The Two Ronnies Ratings (1971-1976 ratings have been multiplied by 2.2 as per the BFI to get viewers in millions)

Spoiler

James J

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“You may have noticed the New Year's Eve concert has been confirmed. The act's a bit of a draw, I think - http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...016/robbie-nye”

sunbeam007

02-12-2016

It's business. Love Productions can't complain as the BBC are entitled to do this. Tough teaty.
Similarly Love were entitled to ask for more money and tough teaty for the BBC.

The gap between the two series will be similar to that of some of the gaps between series of The Apprentice. They've also got the charity version and I'm going to bet that they'll run some other special version in the summer. Maybe they'll get some previous contestants back on.

The teacup won't be so windy next year.

Talking of C4, nice to see Alan Carr presenting TFI Friday tonight....

LHolmes

02-12-2016

With the ever-deluded Jay Hunt getting catty about the Bake Off move in that leaked audio from Broadcast, I don't blame the BBC for playing hardball over the break.

Also it's about getting value for money for LF payers. I presume they paid Love extra for the clause in the first place.

Love got greedy, although I suppose you could argue three of the core presenting team quitting was enough of a bite on the arse for it.

H of De Vil

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by James J:
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I'm with you. I wouldn't say Robbie Williams is much of an audience puller. But it'll get a good rating nonetheless.

bwfcol

02-12-2016

How did they use to get ratings in the 70's/80's? DId the boxes exist then?

xeo

02-12-2016

The BBC simply cannot compete on money with commercial channels nowadays. It's right to have these clauses to deter production companies from just going to the highest bidder. They need to protect themselves.

The BBC give shows a chance in a way commercial broadcasters do/can not. I highly doubt if Bake Off started on any other channel it would've lasted past a couple of series.

Jonwo

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by xeo:
“The BBC simply cannot compete on money with commercial channels nowadays. It's right to have these clauses to deter production companies from just going to the highest bidder. They need to protect themselves.

The BBC give shows a chance in a way commercial broadcasters do/can not. I highly doubt if Bake Off started on any other channel it would've lasted past a couple of series.”

Most indies do respect the BBC and usually don't defect, Fremantlemedia could have easily gone to ITV or Channel 4 when The Apprentice was at its peak but decided not to because they didn't want to damage their relationship with the BBC,

iaindb

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Not just Saturday nights. Spoilered for size.

Spoiler

BBC1 to shake up Saturday night with Tom Hardy drama

BBC1 will ‘reinvent’ its approach to drama next year by carving out a new post-watershed slot for the genre on Saturday nights.

Speaking at a Christmas event for press, director of content Charlotte Moore said Ridley Scott and Tom Hardy’s Taboo would be the first series to play in that slot.

Moore flagged plans to shake up the schedule outside of drama too.

“We’re going to play with formats, create new slots across the week and on Saturdays, and we’re already piloting some exciting shows,” she said.

BBC1’s Saturday night drama is has traditionally been pre-watershed family friendly series such as Doctor Who or Merlin in early evening slots.

However, the slot will not be reserved exclusively for drama, with entertainment and comedy shows also being developed with the slot in mind.

Moore also hinted at a significant iPlayer update in the new year, saying she had been working closely with director general Tony Hall on taking the platform to “the next level”.

Almost a year into her role as director of content, Moore took the opportunity to thank her commissioning team by name, including newly appointed drama chief Piers Wenger.

“We now have a new creative team in place bringing passion and dynamism to everything they do” she said. “Thank you to them for their support, their ambition – and for everything they’ve done this year”.

She highlighted controller of factual Alison Kirkham’s team “for making our factual story the best in the world” and controller of comedy Shane Allen, who she said had “re-energised comedy on the BBC”.

Referring briefly to the BBC having “a secure future with a new charter in place” Moore said the creative opportunities at the BBC were “limitless”.

“I want to create a more dynamic BBC that’s responsive and in touch with our audience - that isn’t scared of reinventing for the future,” she said.

East India Company period drama Taboo is a 8 x 60-minute series made by Scott Free and Hardy, Son and Baker.

There was another interesting thing Charlotte Moore said last night at the BBC press event.

taraconlan (@taraconlan) tweeted at 8:09 p.m. on Thu, Dec 01, 2016:
Charlotte Moore:celebrate live comedy on BBC and 'exciting news to come' on Mary Berry and the other #Greatbritishbakeoff BBC remainers
(https://twitter.com/taraconlan/statu...201056768?s=09)”

I like this article.

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