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Old 03-12-2016, 00:18
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But The Voice in the initial stage was popular because it was "nice". If you take the nice element away you are left with TXF on speed.
"Nice" as in "drags".

I suspect if no changes were made, it would get criticism for being the same as on the BBC, whch was pretty tedious, and episodes dragged - especially the backstage rubbish.

I don't doubt what you are saying, but The Voice launched well due to all different elements that went in its favour. First of all its on the BBC, and for a typically younger skewing show it had a very large older following.

I don't think it'll cause too much audience decline. To start with it won't be nearly as big as it was on BBC1. It'll be at least 1m down.
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Old 03-12-2016, 00:35
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"Nice" as in "drags".

I suspect if no changes were made, it would get criticism for being the same as on the BBC, whch was pretty tedious, and episodes dragged - especially the backstage rubbish.

I don't doubt what you are saying, but The Voice launched well due to all different elements that went in its favour. First of all its on the BBC, and for a typically younger skewing show it had a very large older following.

I don't think it'll cause too much audience decline. To start with it won't be nearly as big as it was on BBC1. It'll be at least 1m down.
So what number would that be?
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Old 03-12-2016, 00:41
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Right Charlotte, (you annoy me at times) I have an idea for you (don't groan) but I have seen the line up for the Swedish Eurovision National Final MelodiFestivalen and the talent is through the roof. Develop Eurovision: You Decide and you know spend some blinking money to get the talent in and film it at arenas around the UK and have the final at the O2 arena. I bet Graham would LIVE to do this. Spend the money Charlotte don't be satisfied with just turning up. Rather than cheap shiny floor LE Let's Drag up for "X" Relief or Let it Dull or Let's try and replace two of the blinking Spice Girls the most successful and iconic girl group of all time!. Actually invest in a format that might yield a return. It could be a spectacular rival to The Voice especially as the contest is skewing younger these days.

You already have formats there Charlotte to make big. Use them!
A big talent format is fine (although I think we can safely say its been done before), but would you saddle the winners with a spot on Eurovision? The problem is the British public-especially those invested in music, think its a joke-a watchable joke maybe, but still a joke. We have only ever won with cute songs that 5 years olds would appreciate and the British image of Eurovision has never been cool. If you add in the Brexit vote probably will turn even more European voters away from us, I honestly don't think bigging it up for a talent show would be worth it.

As for Spice Girls, it might just have a few legs if the idea was to create a brand new 5 girl group, but I cant see the point in an entire series to find just two.
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Old 03-12-2016, 00:43
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But The Voice in the initial stage was popular because it was "nice". If you take the nice element away you are left with TXF on speed.
This is true. When The Voice started those that watched said they liked it as it wasn't cruel like The X Factor was then. Forced Britain's Got Talent to change too and become nicer.
That's normally how it works on The Voice apparently. It means they'll be less dishonesty from judges.
Like anybody cares. They liked seeing something positive coming from the coaches. Once the chairs stopped spinning that's when the ratings dropped.
"Nice" as in "drags".
Nice as in nice.

I suspect if no changes were made, it would get criticism for being the same as on the BBC, whch was pretty tedious, and episodes dragged - especially the backstage rubbish.
But ITV said they weren't going to change too much initially when they bought it. Sounds like they're giving it an X Factor touch in places.

I don't doubt what you are saying, but The Voice launched well due to all different elements that went in its favour. First of all its on the BBC, and for a typically younger skewing show it had a very large older following.
The Voice launched well primarily because it was new and something different to X Factor in the early stages. This was opposite BGT which also had a sizeable older audience alongside the younger audience

I don't think it'll cause too much audience decline. To start with it won't be nearly as big as it was on BBC1. It'll be at least 1m down.
It should do better than the last BBC series. It won't be as big as it was when it started in 2012. How will Let It Shine do opposite? An unknown quantity in the mix.
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Old 03-12-2016, 00:57
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No, Scotland are showing it tomorrow instead of Mastermind.

You may have noticed the New Year's Eve concert has been confirmed. The act's a bit of a draw, I think - http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...016/robbie-nye
Clearly not everyone likes Williams, but no musical act is universally liked and as a show surrounding the fireworks I think its another winner. The three previous concerts have really worked well imo, and as the piece says, its becoming a tradition. Williams has enough of a wide ranging back catalogue and a talent for live performance to make it a very watchable way to see the new year in.
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Old 03-12-2016, 01:09
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Will.I.Am has stated on The Graham Norton Show has said that if you don't turn for the hopeful then you can't comment. So if no "mentors" turn the contestant just walks off. How cruel ITV. How cruel. :Rolls Eyes:
So no contact at all if none turn it seems. That will change the feel of the show completely, because the coaches sometimes spent more time with the quirky losers than those they picked (especially if they were people like Bernie Clifton with a past in show business)
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Old 03-12-2016, 01:42
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This is true. When The Voice started those that watched said they liked it as it wasn't cruel like The X Factor was then. Forced Britain's Got Talent to change too and become nicer.

Like anybody cares. They liked seeing something positive coming from the coaches. Once the chairs stopped spinning that's when the ratings dropped.
Nice as in nice.

But ITV said they weren't going to change too much initially when they bought it. Sounds like they're giving it an X Factor touch in places.

The Voice launched well primarily because it was new and something different to X Factor in the early stages. This was opposite BGT which also had a sizeable older audience alongside the younger audience

It should do better than the last BBC series. It won't be as big as it was when it started in 2012. How will Let It Shine do opposite? An unknown quantity in the mix.
I cared. I found the spinning chairs quite cool at the beginning. I never made it to the end of the series because my curiosity had waned and the whole show felt too vanilla. It lacked an edge.

Yes you don't have to be nasty but you can still be fun and interesting. Walliams does this for BGT and XF has been like it this year.

I'll go the show another go to see if it's improved - whether I stick with it..
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Old 03-12-2016, 02:18
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No, Scotland are showing it tomorrow instead of Mastermind.

You may have noticed the New Year's Eve concert has been confirmed. The act's a bit of a draw, I think - http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...016/robbie-nye
nice, Bryan Adams was great. Its really good to have big name draws, who can easily please a new years eve crowd on TV at that time.

When are we getting listings for New Years, Digiguide has not updated yet
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Old 03-12-2016, 02:45
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Re Mary Berry..

http://www.forbes.com/sites/neilmidg.../#5fce1b5a3cbf
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Old 03-12-2016, 06:28
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I enjoyed it. It's not perfect, but it made me laugh out loud more than once.

It'll be interesting to see how it rates away from IAC and particularly in two weeks time against ITV's low-rated comedy. Expect it won't rise very much if at all. Viewers no longer have just three or four channels to choose from.
I meant to include the title of the ITV sitcom in this post but I accidentally omitted it. I'm taking about Vicious.
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Old 03-12-2016, 07:01
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ITV simply won't have time to show inane chatter with losing contestants on The Voice. It's the most pointless aspect of the show's format so it makes sense to drop it. Doesn't mean it's nasty.
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Old 03-12-2016, 07:43
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Len Goodman has recorded his last SCD - The Sun
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Old 03-12-2016, 07:59
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Did anyone watch Walliams & Friend tonight? What do you honestly think of it?

I can't honestly believe it was commissioned. Waste of money and time. I like David Walliams but compared to Little Britain, its just on a completely different level.
I didn't find it as funny as last week, but I did chuckle at the Queen sketch at the beginning and the Jeremy Kyle bit at the end was very funny, I thought. I'm more looking forward to next week's one as it will feature Sheridan Smith.
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Old 03-12-2016, 08:07
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Len Goodman has recorded his last SCD - The Sun
Will he be CGI'd for the rest of the series? Surely his last SCD will be the final, not a recorded Christmas show?
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Old 03-12-2016, 08:49
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Will he be CGI'd for the rest of the series? Surely his last SCD will be the final, not a recorded Christmas show?
The Christmas special will be shown after the final so it will be his last appearance although some newspapers seem to be starting a campaign to get him to stay.He will continue to judge the US version of the show and enjoy his first-class flights to LA.
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:59
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BBC1: Top 3 (7pm-11pm)
EastEnders: 5.62m (28.6%)
Fawlty Towers (R): 4.53m (23.1%)
The One Show: 3.76m (20.9%)
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:59
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Its only a few glanced at lines but Charles Sale saying the chances of Champions League football returning to terrestrial tv are increasing. Apparently both SKY and BT have been in discussions with "terrestrials".
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Old 03-12-2016, 10:00
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Len Goodman has recorded his last SCD - The Sun
WTF? Surely means his last Xmas Special?
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Old 03-12-2016, 10:04
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BBC2: Top 3 (7pm-11pm)
QI: 1.20m (7.0%)
FA Cup Match of the Day Live: Macclesfield Town v Oxford United: 1.18m (5.7%)
Mastermind: 1.02m (5.6%)
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Old 03-12-2016, 10:04
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Will he be CGI'd for the rest of the series? Surely his last SCD will be the final, not a recorded Christmas show?
I suppose in the sense that it will be his last broadcasted show.

Apparently there is a growing campaign to keep him on, but he seems set on leaving.
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Old 03-12-2016, 10:04
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Good rating for Fawlty Towers.

EastEnders was good last night; a pity that figure doesn't reflect it. Though it will need more than one good episode to secure a decent audience again.
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Old 03-12-2016, 10:06
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Channel 4: Top 3 (7pm-11pm) (exc. +1)
Gogglebox: 1.46m (6.6%)
The Last Leg: 1.03m (6.7%)
Alan Carr's Happy Hour: 0.55m (2.7%)
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Old 03-12-2016, 10:09
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BBC1: Top 3 (7pm-11pm)
EastEnders: 5.62m (28.6%)
Fawlty Towers (R): 4.53m (23.1%)
The One Show: 3.76m (20.9%)
Poignant showing catching the moment.
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Old 03-12-2016, 10:09
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Channel 5: Top 3 (7pm-11pm) (exc. +1)
Building the World's Most Luxurious Cruise Ship: 1.02m (4.6%)
Secrets of Great British Castles: 0.89m (4.4%)
The Gadget Show: 0.37m (2.0%)
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Old 03-12-2016, 10:11
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BBC1: Top 3 (7pm-11pm)
EastEnders: 5.62m (28.6%)
Fawlty Towers (R): 4.53m (23.1%)
The One Show: 3.76m (20.9%)
Fantastic for Fawlty Towers. I knew it would do well when they scheduled it here. Probably took a few numbers from Corrie.
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