"Nice" as in "drags".

I suspect if no changes were made, it would get criticism for being the same as on the BBC, whch was pretty tedious, and episodes dragged - especially the backstage rubbish.

I don't doubt what you are saying, but The Voice launched well due to all different elements that went in its favour. First of all its on the BBC, and for a typically younger skewing show it had a very large older following.

I don't think it'll cause too much audience decline. To start with it won't be nearly as big as it was on BBC1. It'll be at least 1m down.

So what number would that be?

A big talent format is fine (although I think we can safely say its been done before), but would you saddle the winners with a spot on Eurovision? The problem is the British public-especially those invested in music, think its a joke-a watchable joke maybe, but still a joke. We have only ever won with cute songs that 5 years olds would appreciate and the British image of Eurovision has never been cool. If you add in the Brexit vote probably will turn even more European voters away from us, I honestly don't think bigging it up for a talent show would be worth it.

As for Spice Girls, it might just have a few legs if the idea was to create a brand new 5 girl group, but I cant see the point in an entire series to find just two.

This is true. When The Voice started those that watched said they liked it as it wasn't cruel like The X Factor was then. Forced Britain's Got Talent to change too and become nicer.

Like anybody cares. They liked seeing something positive coming from the coaches. Once the chairs stopped spinning that's when the ratings dropped.

Nice as in nice.


But ITV said they weren't going to change too much initially when they bought it. Sounds like they're giving it an X Factor touch in places.


The Voice launched well primarily because it was new and something different to X Factor in the early stages. This was opposite BGT which also had a sizeable older audience alongside the younger audience


It should do better than the last BBC series. It won't be as big as it was when it started in 2012. How will Let It Shine do opposite? An unknown quantity in the mix.

Clearly not everyone likes Williams, but no musical act is universally liked and as a show surrounding the fireworks I think its another winner. The three previous concerts have really worked well imo, and as the piece says, its becoming a tradition. Williams has enough of a wide ranging back catalogue and a talent for live performance to make it a very watchable way to see the new year in.

So no contact at all if none turn it seems. That will change the feel of the show completely, because the coaches sometimes spent more time with the quirky losers than those they picked (especially if they were people like Bernie Clifton with a past in show business)

I cared. I found the spinning chairs quite cool at the beginning. I never made it to the end of the series because my curiosity had waned and the whole show felt too vanilla. It lacked an edge.

Yes you don't have to be nasty but you can still be fun and interesting. Walliams does this for BGT and XF has been like it this year.

I'll go the show another go to see if it's improved - whether I stick with it..

nice, Bryan Adams was great. Its really good to have big name draws, who can easily please a new years eve crowd on TV at that time.

When are we getting listings for New Years, Digiguide has not updated yet

Re Mary Berry..

http://www.forbes.com/sites/neilmidg.../#5fce1b5a3cbf

I meant to include the title of the ITV sitcom in this post but I accidentally omitted it. I'm taking about Vicious.

ITV simply won't have time to show inane chatter with losing contestants on The Voice. It's the most pointless aspect of the show's format so it makes sense to drop it. Doesn't mean it's nasty.

Len Goodman has recorded his last SCD - The Sun

I didn't find it as funny as last week, but I did chuckle at the Queen sketch at the beginning and the Jeremy Kyle bit at the end was very funny, I thought. I'm more looking forward to next week's one as it will feature Sheridan Smith.

Will he be CGI'd for the rest of the series? Surely his last SCD will be the final, not a recorded Christmas show?

The Christmas special will be shown after the final so it will be his last appearance although some newspapers seem to be starting a campaign to get him to stay.He will continue to judge the US version of the show and enjoy his first-class flights to LA.

BBC1: Top 3 (7pm-11pm)
EastEnders: 5.62m (28.6%)
Fawlty Towers (R): 4.53m (23.1%)
The One Show: 3.76m (20.9%)

Its only a few glanced at lines but Charles Sale saying the chances of Champions League football returning to terrestrial tv are increasing. Apparently both SKY and BT have been in discussions with "terrestrials".

WTF? Surely means his last Xmas Special?

BBC2: Top 3 (7pm-11pm)
QI: 1.20m (7.0%)
FA Cup Match of the Day Live: Macclesfield Town v Oxford United: 1.18m (5.7%)
Mastermind: 1.02m (5.6%)

I suppose in the sense that it will be his last broadcasted show.

Apparently there is a growing campaign to keep him on, but he seems set on leaving.

Good rating for Fawlty Towers.

EastEnders was good last night; a pity that figure doesn't reflect it. Though it will need more than one good episode to secure a decent audience again.

Channel 4: Top 3 (7pm-11pm) (exc. +1)
Gogglebox: 1.46m (6.6%)
The Last Leg: 1.03m (6.7%)
Alan Carr's Happy Hour: 0.55m (2.7%)

Poignant showing catching the moment.

Channel 5: Top 3 (7pm-11pm) (exc. +1)
Building the World's Most Luxurious Cruise Ship: 1.02m (4.6%)
Secrets of Great British Castles: 0.89m (4.4%)
The Gadget Show: 0.37m (2.0%)

Fantastic for Fawlty Towers. I knew it would do well when they scheduled it here. Probably took a few numbers from Corrie.