Looking at all the channels, what is the one thing you are most looking forward to this Christmas on TV.
I think mine is Inside No 9
I think mine is Inside No 9
The Ratings Thread (Part 68)
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Those of you who have your Christmas TV guide now, are you able to post what we have coming up in 2017 that is highlighted? Thanks. 
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Those of you who have your Christmas TV guide now, are you able to post what we have coming up in 2017 that is highlighted? Thanks.”
“Those of you who have your Christmas TV guide now, are you able to post what we have coming up in 2017 that is highlighted? Thanks.
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Radio Times just says Sherlock.
Total TV says.
Tina and Bobby.
The Halcyon
Fortitude.
Let it shine.
Unforgotten.
Apple Tree yard.
And Sherlock.
I understand The Mirror on Sunday has a 12 night Christmas and New Year guide.
Been AWOL for a few months, but have been lurking in here now and again. Two things I have noticed about shows that have been around for nearly as long as each other: IAC really does defy the pessimists every year who think the wheels will fall off and the 14 year old show will die. It's still achieving over 8 million in consolidateds and show no signs of faltering, OK it's down on its 2004 peak, but then there wasn't as much competition. The XF OTOH does seem to be entering its dying phase now, SCD regularly beats it by 4 million viewers and the endless twists and turns to jazz up an ageing and predictable show aren't working. Even The Sun made a sarcastic comment about TXF this week
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Been AWOL for a few months, but have been lurking in here now and again. Two things I have noticed about shows that have been around for nearly as long as each other: IAC really does defy the pessimists every year who think the wheels will fall off and the 14 year old show will die. It's still achieving over 8 million in consolidateds and show no signs of faltering, OK it's down on its 2004 peak, but then there wasn't as much competition. The XF OTOH does seem to be entering its dying phase now, SCD regularly beats it by 4 million viewers and the endless twists and turns to jazz up an ageing and predictable show aren't working. Even The Sun made a sarcastic comment about TXF this week”
“Been AWOL for a few months, but have been lurking in here now and again. Two things I have noticed about shows that have been around for nearly as long as each other: IAC really does defy the pessimists every year who think the wheels will fall off and the 14 year old show will die. It's still achieving over 8 million in consolidateds and show no signs of faltering, OK it's down on its 2004 peak, but then there wasn't as much competition. The XF OTOH does seem to be entering its dying phase now, SCD regularly beats it by 4 million viewers and the endless twists and turns to jazz up an ageing and predictable show aren't working. Even The Sun made a sarcastic comment about TXF this week”
Agree.
And Simon has been the butt of jokes on The Apprentice and David Walliams this week.
To be honest, I have noticed far far less articles on XF this year, bar negative comments on a couple of contestants, and I think they just do not rate it as a big show anymore.
IAC and SCD get pages of articles.
This is totally random, and ultimately pointless, but I can't help but notice that Meet the Parents starts at 7:01pm tonight according to the Sky EPG. How very precise. 
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Radio Times just says Sherlock.
Total TV says.
Tina and Bobby.
The Halcyon
Fortitude.
Let it shine.
Unforgotten.
Apple Tree yard.
And Sherlock.
I understand The Mirror on Sunday has a 12 night Christmas and New Year guide.”
“Radio Times just says Sherlock.
Total TV says.
Tina and Bobby.
The Halcyon
Fortitude.
Let it shine.
Unforgotten.
Apple Tree yard.
And Sherlock.
I understand The Mirror on Sunday has a 12 night Christmas and New Year guide.”
Thanks
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Been AWOL for a few months, but have been lurking in here now and again. Two things I have noticed about shows that have been around for nearly as long as each other: IAC really does defy the pessimists every year who think the wheels will fall off and the 14 year old show will die. It's still achieving over 8 million in consolidateds and show no signs of faltering, OK it's down on its 2004 peak, but then there wasn't as much competition. The XF OTOH does seem to be entering its dying phase now, SCD regularly beats it by 4 million viewers and the endless twists and turns to jazz up an ageing and predictable show aren't working. Even The Sun made a sarcastic comment about TXF this week”
“Been AWOL for a few months, but have been lurking in here now and again. Two things I have noticed about shows that have been around for nearly as long as each other: IAC really does defy the pessimists every year who think the wheels will fall off and the 14 year old show will die. It's still achieving over 8 million in consolidateds and show no signs of faltering, OK it's down on its 2004 peak, but then there wasn't as much competition. The XF OTOH does seem to be entering its dying phase now, SCD regularly beats it by 4 million viewers and the endless twists and turns to jazz up an ageing and predictable show aren't working. Even The Sun made a sarcastic comment about TXF this week”
Well welcome back.
Yes I'mACeleb really does do well every year. But its on for only 3 weeks.
Both TXF and The Apprentice are declining shows, and both are younger skewing.
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Been AWOL for a few months, but have been lurking in here now and again. Two things I have noticed about shows that have been around for nearly as long as each other: IAC really does defy the pessimists every year who think the wheels will fall off and the 14 year old show will die. It's still achieving over 8 million in consolidateds and show no signs of faltering, OK it's down on its 2004 peak, but then there wasn't as much competition. The XF OTOH does seem to be entering its dying phase now, SCD regularly beats it by 4 million viewers and the endless twists and turns to jazz up an ageing and predictable show aren't working. Even The Sun made a sarcastic comment about TXF this week”
“Been AWOL for a few months, but have been lurking in here now and again. Two things I have noticed about shows that have been around for nearly as long as each other: IAC really does defy the pessimists every year who think the wheels will fall off and the 14 year old show will die. It's still achieving over 8 million in consolidateds and show no signs of faltering, OK it's down on its 2004 peak, but then there wasn't as much competition. The XF OTOH does seem to be entering its dying phase now, SCD regularly beats it by 4 million viewers and the endless twists and turns to jazz up an ageing and predictable show aren't working. Even The Sun made a sarcastic comment about TXF this week”
If we're being pedantic, it peaked in 2013 (series 13).
Though +1 didn't exist in 2004, of course.
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Agree.
And Simon has been the butt of jokes on The Apprentice and David Walliams this week.
To be honest, I have noticed far far less articles on XF this year, bar negative comments on a couple of contestants, and I think they just do not rate it as a big show anymore.
IAC and SCD get pages of articles.”
“Agree.
And Simon has been the butt of jokes on The Apprentice and David Walliams this week.
To be honest, I have noticed far far less articles on XF this year, bar negative comments on a couple of contestants, and I think they just do not rate it as a big show anymore.
IAC and SCD get pages of articles.”
TXF has also been hit by a high quality documentary series on BBC One on Sundays. Normally I'd have expected 5 million for PE 2, but it's been up to 12 million and proves that if quality is there, people will switch over in the same way CTM killed off DOI in 2 years. Also younger viewers, who are the mainstay of TXF, have formed a large chunk of PE2' s audience, perhaps the more sober and serious millenials see TXF as a trashy throwback to the previous decade.
As for IAC, ITV really do deserve praise for keeping such an old show with a similar fomat going for so long. Unlike BB and CBB, ITV have kept the show to a maximum of 21 nights, the show is mostly free of the nastiness you find in BB and Ant and Dec make viewers want to watch with their mocking but kind tone towards IAC. I can see IAC lasting into the next decade, it's really been recommissioned for another 3 years and its broad appeal and wider than usual demos for a reality show are pleasing for the third button.
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Radio Times just says Sherlock.
Total TV says.
Tina and Bobby.
The Halcyon
Fortitude.
Let it shine.
Unforgotten.
Apple Tree yard.
And Sherlock.
I understand The Mirror on Sunday has a 12 night Christmas and New Year guide.”
“Radio Times just says Sherlock.
Total TV says.
Tina and Bobby.
The Halcyon
Fortitude.
Let it shine.
Unforgotten.
Apple Tree yard.
And Sherlock.
I understand The Mirror on Sunday has a 12 night Christmas and New Year guide.”
In the Sherlock article, Radio Times also mentions Silent Witness' 20th anniversary series.
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“TXF has also been hit by a high quality documentary series on BBC One on Sundays. Normally I'd have expected 5 million for PE 2, but it's been up to 12 million and proves that if quality is there, people will switch over in the same way CTM killed off DOI in 2 years. Also younger viewers, who are the mainstay of TXF, have formed a large chunk of PE2' s audience, perhaps the more sober and serious millenials see TXF as a trashy throwback to the previous decade.”
“TXF has also been hit by a high quality documentary series on BBC One on Sundays. Normally I'd have expected 5 million for PE 2, but it's been up to 12 million and proves that if quality is there, people will switch over in the same way CTM killed off DOI in 2 years. Also younger viewers, who are the mainstay of TXF, have formed a large chunk of PE2' s audience, perhaps the more sober and serious millenials see TXF as a trashy throwback to the previous decade.”
TXF hasn't really been hit by Planet Earth because its ratings have been pretty static since back when Antiques Roadshow was its competition. Planet Earth has brought in new viewers to the "terrestrials". I was anticipated PE2 matching Roadshow's overnights but being well ahead in time-shift audience. PE2's performance has just been staggering but no more than the programme and its legend narrator deserve.
I'll be curious what fill Sundays for ITV because BGT's finals week next series is from the 28th May so that leaves 20 Sundays for dramas, Im guessing Endeavour, Vera and The Halycon will fill 12 of those which leaves 4 Sundays free. I previously thought Tina and Bobby could go on Sundays but I wonder if Jeff Pope's Little Boy Blue could be an option
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“The tsunami of peak time repeats of Harry Potter films, makes embrassing reading in my Christmas Radio Times. I agree with you, where there are scheduling clashes I will record on TiVo and catch up when there isn't a lot else on.
I think HP will average circa two million, it gives BBC1 a free reign on many nights.
Frozen gets Barry Normans film choice, from 2013 whereas The Lion King 1996 - is a good film, but now twenty plus years old and repeated later in the week on ITV2.
Captain Phillips looks alone as a great first run film on ITV.”
“The tsunami of peak time repeats of Harry Potter films, makes embrassing reading in my Christmas Radio Times. I agree with you, where there are scheduling clashes I will record on TiVo and catch up when there isn't a lot else on.
I think HP will average circa two million, it gives BBC1 a free reign on many nights.
Frozen gets Barry Normans film choice, from 2013 whereas The Lion King 1996 - is a good film, but now twenty plus years old and repeated later in the week on ITV2.
Captain Phillips looks alone as a great first run film on ITV.”
I know people have pointed out how badly some productions did for ITV last year when an effort was made, and there may be commercial reasons for doing this line of HP's, but there is more than an element of surrender about that kind of schedule. I cant remember anything like it before on ITV holiday primetime(or indeed any other primetime?) and maybe its a sad looking line that's been crossed here for one of the big two.
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“TXF has also been hit by a high quality documentary series on BBC One on Sundays. Normally I'd have expected 5 million for PE 2, but it's been up to 12 million and proves that if quality is there, people will switch over in the same way CTM killed off DOI in 2 years. Also younger viewers, who are the mainstay of TXF, have formed a large chunk of PE2' s audience, perhaps the more sober and serious millenials see TXF as a trashy throwback to the previous decade.
As for IAC, ITV really do deserve praise for keeping such an old show with a similar fomat going for so long. Unlike BB and CBB, ITV have kept the show to a maximum of 21 nights, the show is mostly free of the nastiness you find in BB and Ant and Dec make viewers want to watch with their mocking but kind tone towards IAC. I can see IAC lasting into the next decade, it's really been recommissioned for another 3 years and its broad appeal and wider than usual demos for a reality show are pleasing for the third button.”
“TXF has also been hit by a high quality documentary series on BBC One on Sundays. Normally I'd have expected 5 million for PE 2, but it's been up to 12 million and proves that if quality is there, people will switch over in the same way CTM killed off DOI in 2 years. Also younger viewers, who are the mainstay of TXF, have formed a large chunk of PE2' s audience, perhaps the more sober and serious millenials see TXF as a trashy throwback to the previous decade.
As for IAC, ITV really do deserve praise for keeping such an old show with a similar fomat going for so long. Unlike BB and CBB, ITV have kept the show to a maximum of 21 nights, the show is mostly free of the nastiness you find in BB and Ant and Dec make viewers want to watch with their mocking but kind tone towards IAC. I can see IAC lasting into the next decade, it's really been recommissioned for another 3 years and its broad appeal and wider than usual demos for a reality show are pleasing for the third button.”
XF was in decline in 2015, on Saturdays in 2016, in particular from the start of the live shows, and in decline on Sundays pre Planet Earth Starting, In fact if XF had done well, I think the BBC may have shown PE2 in a different slot.
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“In the Sherlock article, Radio Times also mentions Silent Witness' 20th anniversary series.”
“In the Sherlock article, Radio Times also mentions Silent Witness' 20th anniversary series.”
Yes and SW is now on Week 1 on the BBC website with details of episodes 1/2 so looks like Monday and Tuesdays.
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“TXF hasn't really been hit by Planet Earth because its ratings have been pretty static since back when Antiques Roadshow was its competition. Planet Earth has brought in new viewers to the "terrestrials". I was anticipated PE2 matching Roadshow's overnights but being well ahead in time-shift audience. PE2's performance has just been staggering but no more than the programme and its legend narrator deserve.”
“TXF hasn't really been hit by Planet Earth because its ratings have been pretty static since back when Antiques Roadshow was its competition. Planet Earth has brought in new viewers to the "terrestrials". I was anticipated PE2 matching Roadshow's overnights but being well ahead in time-shift audience. PE2's performance has just been staggering but no more than the programme and its legend narrator deserve.”
Agree.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Looking at all the channels, what is the one thing you are most looking forward to this Christmas on TV.
I think mine is Inside No 9”
“Looking at all the channels, what is the one thing you are most looking forward to this Christmas on TV.
I think mine is Inside No 9”
I heard good things about Maigret so I might catch this one. I'm curious to see Blankety Blank. I can't think of anything else that interests me. Oh, Bear Hunt on 4.
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“I know people have pointed out how badly some productions did for ITV last year when an effort was made, and there may be commercial reasons for doing this line of HP's, but there is more than an element of surrender about that kind of schedule. I cant remember anything like it before on ITV holiday primetime(or indeed any other primetime?) and maybe its a sad looking line that's been crossed here for one of the big two.”
“I know people have pointed out how badly some productions did for ITV last year when an effort was made, and there may be commercial reasons for doing this line of HP's, but there is more than an element of surrender about that kind of schedule. I cant remember anything like it before on ITV holiday primetime(or indeed any other primetime?) and maybe its a sad looking line that's been crossed here for one of the big two.”
ITV have made an effort on Christmas Eve, Christmas Day at 3 pm/ 8.30 and Boxing Day film at 9 PM.
But the white flag surrender with Harry Potter repeats in peak time is staggering and disgusting and will get circa two million ITV default viewers. As you read the listings magazines the film After film after film, say from Saturday 17th, is lazy just making a small advertising income on old film rights, and not viewer focused.
They have given up.
Yes BBC 1 has some repeated films, in afternoons where daytime shows are typically on and late night, not peak time, and I can't see Mary Poppins or Sound of Music either! Let alone bednobs and broomsticks.
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“The tsunami of peak time repeats of Harry Potter films, makes embrassing reading in my Christmas Radio Times. I agree with you, where there are scheduling clashes I will record on TiVo and catch up when there isn't a lot else on.
”
“The tsunami of peak time repeats of Harry Potter films, makes embrassing reading in my Christmas Radio Times. I agree with you, where there are scheduling clashes I will record on TiVo and catch up when there isn't a lot else on.
”
You don't watch ITV anyway
Well besides The X Factor
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“You don't watch ITV anyway
Well besides The X Factor”
“You don't watch ITV anyway
Well besides The X Factor”
OK, Andy,
I didn't know you lived in my house! How can you make they incorrect assumption.
1/ Do not watch XF anymore.
2/ I do watch ITV and they have a few nice shows on at Christmas but just a few.
Try to post about Ratings and TV and not " personal" non constructive comments that really are off topic.
I try hard not to label people here.
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“TXF has also been hit by a high quality documentary series on BBC One on Sundays. Normally I'd have expected 5 million for PE 2, but it's been up to 12 million and proves that if quality is there, people will switch over in the same way CTM killed off DOI in 2 years. Also younger viewers, who are the mainstay of TXF, have formed a large chunk of PE2' s audience, perhaps the more sober and serious millenials see TXF as a trashy throwback to the previous decade.
As for IAC, ITV really do deserve praise for keeping such an old show with a similar fomat going for so long. Unlike BB and CBB, ITV have kept the show to a maximum of 21 nights, the show is mostly free of the nastiness you find in BB and Ant and Dec make viewers want to watch with their mocking but kind tone towards IAC. I can see IAC lasting into the next decade, it's really been recommissioned for another 3 years and its broad appeal and wider than usual demos for a reality show are pleasing for the third button.”
“TXF has also been hit by a high quality documentary series on BBC One on Sundays. Normally I'd have expected 5 million for PE 2, but it's been up to 12 million and proves that if quality is there, people will switch over in the same way CTM killed off DOI in 2 years. Also younger viewers, who are the mainstay of TXF, have formed a large chunk of PE2' s audience, perhaps the more sober and serious millenials see TXF as a trashy throwback to the previous decade.
As for IAC, ITV really do deserve praise for keeping such an old show with a similar fomat going for so long. Unlike BB and CBB, ITV have kept the show to a maximum of 21 nights, the show is mostly free of the nastiness you find in BB and Ant and Dec make viewers want to watch with their mocking but kind tone towards IAC. I can see IAC lasting into the next decade, it's really been recommissioned for another 3 years and its broad appeal and wider than usual demos for a reality show are pleasing for the third button.”
I think Planet Earth 2 is the most watched show on TV. The 28 day chart hopefully will confirm that. High quality nature shows have always done well. Survival is possibly the most successful UK TV export ever. Doctor Who may have surpassed it.
IAC is made by Ant and Dec. Remove them and you'd lose many viewers. Their Morecambe and Wise schtick works beautifully.
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“ITV have made an effort on Christmas Eve, Christmas Day at 3 pm/ 8.30 and Boxing Day film at 9 PM.
But the white flag surrender with Harry Potter repeats in peak time is staggering and disgusting and will get circa two million ITV default viewers. As you read the listings magazines the film After film after film, say from Saturday 17th, is lazy just making a small advertising income on old film rights, and not viewer focused.
They have given up.
Yes BBC 1 has some repeated films, in afternoons where daytime shows are typically on and late night, not peak time, and I can't see Mary Poppins or Sound of Music either! Let alone bednobs and broomsticks.”
“ITV have made an effort on Christmas Eve, Christmas Day at 3 pm/ 8.30 and Boxing Day film at 9 PM.
But the white flag surrender with Harry Potter repeats in peak time is staggering and disgusting and will get circa two million ITV default viewers. As you read the listings magazines the film After film after film, say from Saturday 17th, is lazy just making a small advertising income on old film rights, and not viewer focused.
They have given up.
Yes BBC 1 has some repeated films, in afternoons where daytime shows are typically on and late night, not peak time, and I can't see Mary Poppins or Sound of Music either! Let alone bednobs and broomsticks.”
Why are people on here bothered about Potter so much? I remember Skyfall being on twice in a week which I thought was far worse. That annoyed me but then I thought, oh well, why should I care what a commercial TV company does? It's not pay TV like sky or the BBC so stuff it and stuff them.
Originally Posted by DanManF1:
“This is totally random, and ultimately pointless, but I can't help but notice that Meet the Parents starts at 7:01pm tonight according to the Sky EPG. How very precise.”
“This is totally random, and ultimately pointless, but I can't help but notice that Meet the Parents starts at 7:01pm tonight according to the Sky EPG. How very precise.
”
The news is on at 10.37pm as well
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“Why are people on here bothered about Potter so much? I remember Skyfall being on twice in a week which I thought was far worse. That annoyed me but then I thought, oh well, why should I care what a commercial TV company does? It's not pay TV like sky or the BBC so stuff it and stuff them.”
“Why are people on here bothered about Potter so much? I remember Skyfall being on twice in a week which I thought was far worse. That annoyed me but then I thought, oh well, why should I care what a commercial TV company does? It's not pay TV like sky or the BBC so stuff it and stuff them.”
Its not really to do with Potter, it could be any franchise of film-or connected drama that had been shown before. Its just that they are scheduling a multi repeated block of programming in the biggest holiday week of the year in primetime. At the very least its lazy, and for some of us with long tv memories, as I said before, its like a line has been crossed.
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“Why are people on here bothered about Potter so much? I remember Skyfall being on twice in a week which I thought was far worse. That annoyed me but then I thought, oh well, why should I care what a commercial TV company does? It's not pay TV like sky or the BBC so stuff it and stuff them.”
“Why are people on here bothered about Potter so much? I remember Skyfall being on twice in a week which I thought was far worse. That annoyed me but then I thought, oh well, why should I care what a commercial TV company does? It's not pay TV like sky or the BBC so stuff it and stuff them.”
Agree
A certain person is attempting to generate a repeat s*itstorm every time someone buys a Radio Times, yet was quick to close down the Xmas Day news outrage in another thread,
It was all debated with the pros and cons and alternatives and ratings for previous schedules on Tuesday.
By the way, I note the Christmas TV Times is perfect bound rather than stapled, I haven't seen a TV mag like that before.
And Citizen Khan has a TV tie in book out.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“By the way, I note the Christmas TV Times is perfect bound rather than stapled, I haven't seen a TV mag like that before.”
“By the way, I note the Christmas TV Times is perfect bound rather than stapled, I haven't seen a TV mag like that before.”
Is it? Interesting. So it's out to buy now? We always buy the TV Times, sort of a tradition.
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