Well done ITV I'm A Celebrity - no other show could consistently achieve high ratings every day for three weeks.
The Ratings Thread (Part 68)
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In terms of overnight ratings, McIntyre is doing better after Strictly than Doctor Who and lottery quizzes have been opposite X Factor live shows. I'd assume it has better live viewing numbers as well.
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Firstly I fully understand the different between BBC and ITV and funding, as you well know, you only put that to come across very condescending. In fact the post couldn't be any more condescending.
You say obsession, but My posts seem to be your obsession at this time. Harry Potter is a topic now as the Christmas listing magazines are out, and I will say the repeated overuse of Harry Potter will make the tabloids and annoy people. Nice you are going around looking st my posts, including a thread titled ITV schedule but you think you can't post ITV Schedules on it?
ITV like to give out the impression, we do not get good advertising revenue at Christmas so do not bother, not cost effective. It's actually chicken and egg, as they haven't bothered before they do not get High advertising but could do. It has in this period, retail shop sales and the typical start of summer 17 holiday booking season. The real reason is ITV give up, they know that the BBC will be strong so give up. Budget wise ITV is close to BBC1, but doesn't spend its money so wisely, too much for example on the failed X Factor.
They are happy to reuse and reuse again film rights in peak time where they know they will turn two million viewers who always have ITV on, and get some income for no cost.
If any other poster made these points you wouldn't have anybody problem whatsoever, but you like to make the same duplicated posts, just because it's me posting.
You do have poets praising ITV drama, but I do not label you. You love making things up and trying to alter people's perception of me, quoting things like I think the BBC is perfect, I know even when you try to follow every post of mine, that it would be impossible, so you can't see all my posts, but there are criticism of BBC when warranted. But you like to attach labels. I have posted there are some good things on ITV this Christmas that I will watch in the posts you quote, something you completely ignore to try to get your point accepted.
I can only think your agenda is to try to come back so often, you try hard to intimidate me, either as you think I shouldn't post here, as not a member, or you do not want me posting the truth about ITV.
I really do not know where your obsession with me has come from recently it's stepped up two gears from the Frozen Vs Lion King debate, since then you have gone all guns firing against me.
Agree.”
“Firstly I fully understand the different between BBC and ITV and funding, as you well know, you only put that to come across very condescending. In fact the post couldn't be any more condescending.
You say obsession, but My posts seem to be your obsession at this time. Harry Potter is a topic now as the Christmas listing magazines are out, and I will say the repeated overuse of Harry Potter will make the tabloids and annoy people. Nice you are going around looking st my posts, including a thread titled ITV schedule but you think you can't post ITV Schedules on it?
ITV like to give out the impression, we do not get good advertising revenue at Christmas so do not bother, not cost effective. It's actually chicken and egg, as they haven't bothered before they do not get High advertising but could do. It has in this period, retail shop sales and the typical start of summer 17 holiday booking season. The real reason is ITV give up, they know that the BBC will be strong so give up. Budget wise ITV is close to BBC1, but doesn't spend its money so wisely, too much for example on the failed X Factor.
They are happy to reuse and reuse again film rights in peak time where they know they will turn two million viewers who always have ITV on, and get some income for no cost.
If any other poster made these points you wouldn't have anybody problem whatsoever, but you like to make the same duplicated posts, just because it's me posting.
You do have poets praising ITV drama, but I do not label you. You love making things up and trying to alter people's perception of me, quoting things like I think the BBC is perfect, I know even when you try to follow every post of mine, that it would be impossible, so you can't see all my posts, but there are criticism of BBC when warranted. But you like to attach labels. I have posted there are some good things on ITV this Christmas that I will watch in the posts you quote, something you completely ignore to try to get your point accepted.
I can only think your agenda is to try to come back so often, you try hard to intimidate me, either as you think I shouldn't post here, as not a member, or you do not want me posting the truth about ITV.
I really do not know where your obsession with me has come from recently it's stepped up two gears from the Frozen Vs Lion King debate, since then you have gone all guns firing against me.
Agree.”
First of all none of my posts are trying to intimidate you, as I imagine you well now. You compare ITV and BBC as if they should be making the same effort in Christmas programming. Well I agree ITV should make an effort, but that only goes so far. You say you know the difference between ITV and BBC, yet post that ITV should be puutting new programming between Christmas and New Year, the weakest point in the holiday season for ratings. In all likeyhood, they would stillloose out to BBC1.
The thread I mentioned, was where someone posted about the ITV schedule tonight on the EPG being really specific in times i.e. 10.01pm etc. Yet your responce was to bring up Harry Potter as if that was in any way relating to the what the poster was referring to in the thread.
BIB I think you do that yourself.
Well lets agree that ITV should put in more effort at Christmas, this year is Lygo's first at ITV, so perhaps next year might be stronger depending on whether the investment they have made this year isn't totally in vain.
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Yesterday should have been:
17:20 - ITV News
17:35 - Meet the Parents
18:30 - Tipping Point
19:30 - The X Factor
21:00 - I'm a Celebrity
22:30 - ITV News
Yet again ITV seem reluctant to move The X Factor out of the 20:00 slot.”
“Yesterday should have been:
17:20 - ITV News
17:35 - Meet the Parents
18:30 - Tipping Point
19:30 - The X Factor
21:00 - I'm a Celebrity
22:30 - ITV News
Yet again ITV seem reluctant to move The X Factor out of the 20:00 slot.”
Perhaps with this years numbers being down sometimes 1m YOY, they will hopefully last year.
Its a no brainer for me to move TXF, so at least IAC can achieve a better figure, not all squashed up after the weaker show.
I'm still amazed they've kept MTP in the schedule.
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Almost 40% share for IAC and 7 million plus after 3 weeks solid is amazing imo.
Its very difficult to spin XF figure given its semi final performance week. Its not building at all, but at least its retaining its audience at that level. I don't know what options are still left for Simon Cowell to tweak-I just cant see the guy being happy with those kind of figures, but Im not sure what he can do.”
“Almost 40% share for IAC and 7 million plus after 3 weeks solid is amazing imo.
Its very difficult to spin XF figure given its semi final performance week. Its not building at all, but at least its retaining its audience at that level. I don't know what options are still left for Simon Cowell to tweak-I just cant see the guy being happy with those kind of figures, but Im not sure what he can do.”
I'd be tempted to pitch The X Factor head to head with Strictly next year, hope for a core 5m which would be better anything else gets in the slot and see if the can launch anything out of it/make The X Factor's presence worthwhile. Not sure what they have in their locker worth launching though - that's the only downside to the plan.
Roundup, adapted from rzt's breakdown. Hassaan, formerly of this parish, has a breakdown which I'll try and edit into this.
These ratings are tapechecked as IAC overran, and started later.
Saturday 3 December 2016 Ratings Roundup
BBC 1
18:10: Pointless Celebrities - 4.45m (23.9%)
19:00: Strictly Come Dancing - 10.38m (49.1%)
* peak - 11.17m (51.7%) at 19:50
20:00: Michael McIntyre's Big Show - 6.00m (28.6%)
21:00: Casualty - 4.26m (20.4%)
21:50: The National Lottery Live - 2.54m (12.3%)
22:00: BBC News - 3.13m (15.8%)
ITV (inc. +1)
18:00: Tipping Point - 2.93m (15.9%)
19:00: Meet the Parents - 1.84m (8.7%)
20:00: The X Factor - 5.75m (27.5%)
* peak - 6.60m (31.3%) at 21:25
21:30: I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here! - 7.68m (38.3%)
* peak - 8.44m (40.8%) at 21:55
22:40: ITV News and Weather - 2.54m (16.7%)
These ratings are tapechecked as IAC overran, and started later.
Saturday 3 December 2016 Ratings Roundup
BBC 1
18:10: Pointless Celebrities - 4.45m (23.9%)
19:00: Strictly Come Dancing - 10.38m (49.1%)
* peak - 11.17m (51.7%) at 19:50
20:00: Michael McIntyre's Big Show - 6.00m (28.6%)
21:00: Casualty - 4.26m (20.4%)
21:50: The National Lottery Live - 2.54m (12.3%)
22:00: BBC News - 3.13m (15.8%)
ITV (inc. +1)
18:00: Tipping Point - 2.93m (15.9%)
19:00: Meet the Parents - 1.84m (8.7%)
20:00: The X Factor - 5.75m (27.5%)
* peak - 6.60m (31.3%) at 21:25
21:30: I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here! - 7.68m (38.3%)
* peak - 8.44m (40.8%) at 21:55
22:40: ITV News and Weather - 2.54m (16.7%)
How would putting both X factor and IAC in primetime work with the amount of ads. Can they not air more ads in both shows with the current set up
I was expecting Strictly to collapse a little following Ed Ball's exit last weekend. Pleasantly surprised it's held up so well.
Originally Posted by Jay Lee:
“I was expecting Strictly to collapse a little following Ed Ball's exit last weekend. Pleasantly surprised it's held up so well.”
“I was expecting Strictly to collapse a little following Ed Ball's exit last weekend. Pleasantly surprised it's held up so well.”
Really ? I don't recall the prog ever collapsing based on a contestants exit.
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Yesterday should have been:
17:20 - ITV News
17:35 - Meet the Parents
18:30 - Tipping Point
19:30 - The X Factor
21:00 - I'm a Celebrity
22:30 - ITV News
Yet again ITV seem reluctant to move The X Factor out of the 20:00 slot.”
“Yesterday should have been:
17:20 - ITV News
17:35 - Meet the Parents
18:30 - Tipping Point
19:30 - The X Factor
21:00 - I'm a Celebrity
22:30 - ITV News
Yet again ITV seem reluctant to move The X Factor out of the 20:00 slot.”
Could it's possibly be contractual?
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Got my Christmas Radio Times today.
An observation from it. The final of The Apprentice and The Apprentice: You're Hired have been listed as separate programmes. It's what many on here have been wanting for a few years now. It means we might have a situation where the actual hour-long final is down year-on-year but the BBC might be able to boast it's up because they've stripped out the lower ratings that You're Hired gets.
And I'm glad that ITV have stuck Harry Potter on in peak-viewing every night from Holiday Tuesday to (I presume) New Year's Eve because it'll give this household a chance to catch up with all the programmes we'll have to record because of clashes and awkward scheduling.
Talking of awkward scheduling - that Emmerdale scheduled for 8/30pm on Thursday 29th December starts half way through every other channel's opposition including Life In The Snow on BBC1, Robot Wars: Battle Of The Stars on BBC2, Location Location Location on Channel 4. and Biggest Dog In The World on Channel 5. Talk about making things awkward for yourself. Unless they think The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is going to be a big ratings hit. Didn't The Amazing Spider-Man 1 get about 3.5m. That wouldn't be much of a lead-in.”
“Got my Christmas Radio Times today.
An observation from it. The final of The Apprentice and The Apprentice: You're Hired have been listed as separate programmes. It's what many on here have been wanting for a few years now. It means we might have a situation where the actual hour-long final is down year-on-year but the BBC might be able to boast it's up because they've stripped out the lower ratings that You're Hired gets.
And I'm glad that ITV have stuck Harry Potter on in peak-viewing every night from Holiday Tuesday to (I presume) New Year's Eve because it'll give this household a chance to catch up with all the programmes we'll have to record because of clashes and awkward scheduling.
Talking of awkward scheduling - that Emmerdale scheduled for 8/30pm on Thursday 29th December starts half way through every other channel's opposition including Life In The Snow on BBC1, Robot Wars: Battle Of The Stars on BBC2, Location Location Location on Channel 4. and Biggest Dog In The World on Channel 5. Talk about making things awkward for yourself. Unless they think The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is going to be a big ratings hit. Didn't The Amazing Spider-Man 1 get about 3.5m. That wouldn't be much of a lead-in.”
I dont understand why The Apprentice has been scheduled on the sunday before xmas this year I know previous years it had too because of when christmas falled and getting the last episode in but this years final could of just been shown in its usual Thursday slot on 22nd December and just show your fired on bbc2 or at 10.35 after the news.
Whats being shown that thursday out of interest please ?
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Roundup, adapted from rzt's breakdown. Hassaan, formerly of this parish, has a breakdown which I'll try and edit into this.
These ratings are tapechecked as IAC overran, and started later.
Saturday 3 December 2016 Ratings Roundup
BBC 1
18:10: Pointless Celebrities - 4.45m (23.9%)
19:00: Strictly Come Dancing - 10.38m (49.1%)
* peak - 11.17m (51.7%) at 19:50
20:00: Michael McIntyre's Big Show - 6.00m (28.6%)
21:00: Casualty - 4.26m (20.4%)
21:50: The National Lottery Live - 2.54m (12.3%)
22:00: BBC News - 3.13m (15.8%)
ITV (inc. +1)
18:00: Tipping Point - 2.93m (15.9%)
19:00: Meet the Parents - 1.84m (8.7%)
20:00: The X Factor - 5.75m (27.5%)
* peak - 6.60m (31.3%) at 21:25
21:30: I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here! - 7.68m (38.3%)
* peak - 8.44m (40.8%) at 21:55
22:40: ITV News and Weather - 2.54m (16.7%)”
“Roundup, adapted from rzt's breakdown. Hassaan, formerly of this parish, has a breakdown which I'll try and edit into this.
These ratings are tapechecked as IAC overran, and started later.
Saturday 3 December 2016 Ratings Roundup
BBC 1
18:10: Pointless Celebrities - 4.45m (23.9%)
19:00: Strictly Come Dancing - 10.38m (49.1%)
* peak - 11.17m (51.7%) at 19:50
20:00: Michael McIntyre's Big Show - 6.00m (28.6%)
21:00: Casualty - 4.26m (20.4%)
21:50: The National Lottery Live - 2.54m (12.3%)
22:00: BBC News - 3.13m (15.8%)
ITV (inc. +1)
18:00: Tipping Point - 2.93m (15.9%)
19:00: Meet the Parents - 1.84m (8.7%)
20:00: The X Factor - 5.75m (27.5%)
* peak - 6.60m (31.3%) at 21:25
21:30: I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here! - 7.68m (38.3%)
* peak - 8.44m (40.8%) at 21:55
22:40: ITV News and Weather - 2.54m (16.7%)”
That peak share for Strictly is amazing. I'm A Celeb doing so well still, especially since I hear this year hasn't been stellar? (IDK- I haven't watched). MMBS is a clearly a good match for Strictly.
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Roundup, adapted from rzt's breakdown. Hassaan, formerly of this parish, has a breakdown which I'll try and edit into this.
These ratings are tapechecked as IAC overran, and started later.
Saturday 3 December 2016 Ratings Roundup
BBC 1
18:10: Pointless Celebrities - 4.45m (23.9%)
19:00: Strictly Come Dancing - 10.38m (49.1%)
* peak - 11.17m (51.7%) at 19:50
20:00: Michael McIntyre's Big Show - 6.00m (28.6%)
21:00: Casualty - 4.26m (20.4%)
21:50: The National Lottery Live - 2.54m (12.3%)
22:00: BBC News - 3.13m (15.8%)
ITV (inc. +1)
18:00: Tipping Point - 2.93m (15.9%)
19:00: Meet the Parents - 1.84m (8.7%)
20:00: The X Factor - 5.75m (27.5%)
* peak - 6.60m (31.3%) at 21:25
21:30: I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here! - 7.68m (38.3%)
* peak - 8.44m (40.8%) at 21:55
22:40: ITV News and Weather - 2.54m (16.7%)”
“Roundup, adapted from rzt's breakdown. Hassaan, formerly of this parish, has a breakdown which I'll try and edit into this.
These ratings are tapechecked as IAC overran, and started later.
Saturday 3 December 2016 Ratings Roundup
BBC 1
18:10: Pointless Celebrities - 4.45m (23.9%)
19:00: Strictly Come Dancing - 10.38m (49.1%)
* peak - 11.17m (51.7%) at 19:50
20:00: Michael McIntyre's Big Show - 6.00m (28.6%)
21:00: Casualty - 4.26m (20.4%)
21:50: The National Lottery Live - 2.54m (12.3%)
22:00: BBC News - 3.13m (15.8%)
ITV (inc. +1)
18:00: Tipping Point - 2.93m (15.9%)
19:00: Meet the Parents - 1.84m (8.7%)
20:00: The X Factor - 5.75m (27.5%)
* peak - 6.60m (31.3%) at 21:25
21:30: I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here! - 7.68m (38.3%)
* peak - 8.44m (40.8%) at 21:55
22:40: ITV News and Weather - 2.54m (16.7%)”
Thanks lewi and rzt
For me its a no-brainer to give Tipping Point another series based on how its done this year. Its built up a solid audience ready for the next programme to drop 1m+ viewers.
Meet The Parents is a total and utter disaster. When will TXF actually have a supportive lead in? It needs all the help it can get, and yet its still being given piss poor programmes on before it.
Next year opposite SCD, ITV should be scheduling known hits. Not new programming.:
5.30pm Tipping Point Lucky Stars
6.30pm The Chase
7.30pm The X Factor
9pm I'm A Celebrity
IAC is now ITV's priority, because that will be with us for longer than 3 years. TXF will not outlive another 3 year contract.
Great for SCD and McIntrye. Complementary scheduling BBC can manage and ITV cannot (bar TXF and IAC).
Good for IAC, nice peak share. I think we should be looking at 9.5m-10m tonight.
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Roundup, adapted from rzt's breakdown. Hassaan, formerly of this parish, has a breakdown which I'll try and edit into this.
These ratings are tapechecked as IAC overran, and started later.
Saturday 3 December 2016 Ratings Roundup
BBC 1
18:10: Pointless Celebrities - 4.45m (23.9%)
19:00: Strictly Come Dancing - 10.38m (49.1%)
* peak - 11.17m (51.7%) at 19:50
20:00: Michael McIntyre's Big Show - 6.00m (28.6%)
21:00: Casualty - 4.26m (20.4%)
21:50: The National Lottery Live - 2.54m (12.3%)
22:00: BBC News - 3.13m (15.8%)
ITV (inc. +1)
18:00: Tipping Point - 2.93m (15.9%)
19:00: Meet the Parents - 1.84m (8.7%)
20:00: The X Factor - 5.75m (27.5%)
* peak - 6.60m (31.3%) at 21:25
21:30: I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here! - 7.68m (38.3%)
* peak - 8.44m (40.8%) at 21:55
22:40: ITV News and Weather - 2.54m (16.7%)”
“Roundup, adapted from rzt's breakdown. Hassaan, formerly of this parish, has a breakdown which I'll try and edit into this.
These ratings are tapechecked as IAC overran, and started later.
Saturday 3 December 2016 Ratings Roundup
BBC 1
18:10: Pointless Celebrities - 4.45m (23.9%)
19:00: Strictly Come Dancing - 10.38m (49.1%)
* peak - 11.17m (51.7%) at 19:50
20:00: Michael McIntyre's Big Show - 6.00m (28.6%)
21:00: Casualty - 4.26m (20.4%)
21:50: The National Lottery Live - 2.54m (12.3%)
22:00: BBC News - 3.13m (15.8%)
ITV (inc. +1)
18:00: Tipping Point - 2.93m (15.9%)
19:00: Meet the Parents - 1.84m (8.7%)
20:00: The X Factor - 5.75m (27.5%)
* peak - 6.60m (31.3%) at 21:25
21:30: I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here! - 7.68m (38.3%)
* peak - 8.44m (40.8%) at 21:55
22:40: ITV News and Weather - 2.54m (16.7%)”
Originally Posted by stv viewer:
“How would putting both X factor and IAC in primetime work with the amount of ads. Can they not air more ads in both shows with the current set up”
“How would putting both X factor and IAC in primetime work with the amount of ads. Can they not air more ads in both shows with the current set up”
But if IAC was on first, it would have more viewers= more income £. You do not need to increase the number of adverts just put on the stringer show in the best peaktime slot. XF damages IAC.
Originally Posted by Jay Lee:
“I was expecting Strictly to collapse a little following Ed Ball's exit last weekend. Pleasantly surprised it's held up so well.”
“I was expecting Strictly to collapse a little following Ed Ball's exit last weekend. Pleasantly surprised it's held up so well.”
Never happened before, Ed was Ed but we are at the serious end if the competition now and the audience still engaged.
Originally Posted by Jokanovic:
“Really ? I don't recall the prog ever collapsing based on a contestants exit.”
“Really ? I don't recall the prog ever collapsing based on a contestants exit.”
Agree.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Thanks lewi and rzt
For me its a no-brainer to give Tipping Point another series based on how its done this year. Its built up a solid audience ready for the next programme to drop 1m+ viewers.
Meet The Parents is a total and utter disaster. When will TXF actually have a supportive lead in? It needs all the help it can get, and yet its still being given piss poor programmes on before it.
Next year opposite SCD, ITV should be scheduling known hits. Not new programming.:
5.30pm Tipping Point Lucky Stars
6.30pm The Chase
7.30pm The X Factor
9pm I'm A Celebrity
IAC is now ITV's priority, because that will be with us for longer than 3 years. TXF will not outlive another 3 year contract.
Great for SCD and McIntrye. Complementary scheduling BBC can manage and ITV cannot (bar TXF and IAC).
Good for IAC, nice peak share. I think we should be looking at 9.5m-10m tonight.”
“Thanks lewi and rzt
For me its a no-brainer to give Tipping Point another series based on how its done this year. Its built up a solid audience ready for the next programme to drop 1m+ viewers.
Meet The Parents is a total and utter disaster. When will TXF actually have a supportive lead in? It needs all the help it can get, and yet its still being given piss poor programmes on before it.
Next year opposite SCD, ITV should be scheduling known hits. Not new programming.:
5.30pm Tipping Point Lucky Stars
6.30pm The Chase
7.30pm The X Factor
9pm I'm A Celebrity
IAC is now ITV's priority, because that will be with us for longer than 3 years. TXF will not outlive another 3 year contract.
Great for SCD and McIntrye. Complementary scheduling BBC can manage and ITV cannot (bar TXF and IAC).
Good for IAC, nice peak share. I think we should be looking at 9.5m-10m tonight.”
I agree with you.
Originally Posted by decafcappuccino:
“I dont understand why The Apprentice has been scheduled on the sunday before xmas this year I know previous years it had too because of when christmas falled and getting the last episode in but this years final could of just been shown in its usual Thursday slot on 22nd December and just show your fired on bbc2 or at 10.35 after the news.
Whats being shown that thursday out of interest please ?”
“I dont understand why The Apprentice has been scheduled on the sunday before xmas this year I know previous years it had too because of when christmas falled and getting the last episode in but this years final could of just been shown in its usual Thursday slot on 22nd December and just show your fired on bbc2 or at 10.35 after the news.
Whats being shown that thursday out of interest please ?”
A repeat of the brilliant Royle Family episode The Queen Of Sheba. Worth seeing again and much more entertaining than The Apprentice (which I watch and mostly enjoy but The Queen Of Sheba was such a superior piece of television IMHO). Preceded by Ricky Tomlinson on Who Do You Think You Are?
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Thanks lewi and rzt
For me its a no-brainer to give Tipping Point another series based on how its done this year. Its built up a solid audience ready for the next programme to drop 1m+ viewers.
Meet The Parents is a total and utter disaster. When will TXF actually have a supportive lead in? It needs all the help it can get, and yet its still being given piss poor programmes on before it.
Next year opposite SCD, ITV should be scheduling known hits. Not new programming.:
5.30pm Tipping Point Lucky Stars
6.30pm The Chase
7.30pm The X Factor
9pm I'm A Celebrity
IAC is now ITV's priority, because that will be with us for longer than 3 years. TXF will not outlive another 3 year contract.
Great for SCD and McIntrye. Complementary scheduling BBC can manage and ITV cannot (bar TXF and IAC).
Good for IAC, nice peak share. I think we should be looking at 9.5m-10m tonight.”
“Thanks lewi and rzt
For me its a no-brainer to give Tipping Point another series based on how its done this year. Its built up a solid audience ready for the next programme to drop 1m+ viewers.
Meet The Parents is a total and utter disaster. When will TXF actually have a supportive lead in? It needs all the help it can get, and yet its still being given piss poor programmes on before it.
Next year opposite SCD, ITV should be scheduling known hits. Not new programming.:
5.30pm Tipping Point Lucky Stars
6.30pm The Chase
7.30pm The X Factor
9pm I'm A Celebrity
IAC is now ITV's priority, because that will be with us for longer than 3 years. TXF will not outlive another 3 year contract.
Great for SCD and McIntrye. Complementary scheduling BBC can manage and ITV cannot (bar TXF and IAC).
Good for IAC, nice peak share. I think we should be looking at 9.5m-10m tonight.”
That would turn ITV Into the BBC with them constantly airing safe Pointless instead of trying out new formats. You can't find a supportive lead in for The X Factor unless you actually give some shows a chance.
Originally Posted by xeo:
“That would turn ITV Into the BBC with them constantly airing safe Pointless instead of trying out new formats. You can't find a supportive lead in for The X Factor unless you actually give some shows a chance.”
“That would turn ITV Into the BBC with them constantly airing safe Pointless instead of trying out new formats. You can't find a supportive lead in for The X Factor unless you actually give some shows a chance.”
Agree.
An enormous roundup from Hassaan.
Saturday 3rd December 2016 - Overnights
BBC One
06:00 - Breakfast: 1.40m (34.9%)
10:00 - Saturday Kitchen Live: 1.41m (21.3%)
11:30 - Home Comforts at Christmas: 1.31m (20.0%)
12:00 - Football Focus: 1.09m (15.1%)
13:00 - BBC News: 1.41m (17.7%)
13:15 - Snooker: UK Championship 2016: 1.19m (12.1%)
* 15 minute peak: 1.75m (14.6%) at 16:15
16:30 - Final Score: 2.23m (16.9%)
17:25 - Celebrity Mastermind: 2.43m (15.5%)
17:55 - BBC News: 3.90m (22.7%)
18:10 - Pointless Celebrities: 4.45m (23.9%)
19:00 - Strictly Come Dancing: 10.38m (49.1%)
* 5-minute peak: 11.17m (51.7%)
20:00 - Michael McIntyre's Big Show: 6.00m (28.6%)
21:00 - Casualty: 4.26m (20.4%)
21:50 - The National Lottery Live: 2.54m (12.3%)
22:00 - BBC News: 3.13m (15.8%)
22:20 - Match of the Day: 3.21m (23.6%)
23:45 - The NFL Show: 0.54m (8.1%)
00:15 - FILM: Dragonfly: 0.42m (11.1%)
BBC Two
12:00 - The Best Dishes Ever: 0.52m (7.5%)
12:30 - Hairy Bikers' Best of British: 0.65m (8.4%)
13:30 - FILM: Rebecca: 0.55m (5.9%)
15:35 - Flog It!: 0.84m (7.4%)
19:00 - Snooker: UK Championship 2016: 1.15m (5.7%)
* 15-minute peak: 1.37m (6.6%) at 21:15
23:00 - FILM: The Dresser: 0.20m (2.4%)
ITV (inc +1)
09:30 - FILM: Carry On Girls: 0.31m (3.9%)
11:10 - All Star Family Fortunes (r): 0.37m (5.6%)
11:55 - ITV News & Weather: 0.42m (6.4%)
12:05 - Judge Rinder: 0.42m (5.7%)
13:05 - Cash Trapped (r): 0.36m (4.3%)
14:05 - FILM: St Trinian's: 0.64m (6.5%)
16:00 - Thunderbirds Are Go: 0.49m (4.2%)
16:20 - The Chase (r): 1.26m (9.6%)
17:25 - ITV Regional News: 2.31m (15.2%)
17:40 - ITV News & Weather: 2.49m (15.4%)
18:00 - Tipping Point: Lucky Stars: 2.93m (15.9%)
19:00 - Meet the Parents: 1.81m (8.6%)
20:00 - The X Factor: 5.75m (27.5%)
* 5-minute peak: 6.60m (31.3%) at 21:25
* exc +1: 5.61m (26.9%)
21:30 - I'm a Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here!: 7.68m (38.3%)
* 5-minute peak: 8.44m (40.8%) at 21:55
* exc +1: 7.37m (36.8%)
22:35 - ITV News & Weather: 2.54m (16.7%)
22:50 - FILM: 10,000 BC: 0.87m (10.3%)
Channel 4 (inc +1)
13:25 - Channel 4 Racing: 0.46m (4.8%)
16:00 - Jamie's Super Food: 0.31m (2.6%)
16:30 - Location, Location, Location: 0.65m (4.8%)
17:35 - A Place in the Sun: 0.75m (4.4%)
18:30 - Channel 4 News: 0.57m (3.0%)
19:00 - China: Between Clouds and Dreams: 0.50m (2.3%)
20:00 - Britain at Low Tide: 1.06m (5.1%)
21:00 - FILM: Now You See Me: 0.98m (5.2%)
Channel 5 (inc +1)
15:20 - FILM: A Belle For Christmas: 0.59m (5.5%)
16:20 - 5 News Update: 0.78m (6.5%)
16:25 - FILM: A Belle For Christmas: 0.82m (6.5%)
17:10 - FILM: Mrs Miracle: 1.01m (6.4%)
18:10 - 5 News Update: 1.11m (6.2%)
18:15 - FILM: Mrs Miracle: 1.13m (6.1%)
19:05 - NCIS: 0.37m (1.7%)
20:00 - NCIS: New Orleans: 0.62m (3.0%)
20:55 - 5 News Weekend: 0.29m (1.4%)
21:00 - Football On 5: The Championship: 0.40m (2.0%)
22:20 - FILM: Frozen Ground: 0.55m (4.7%)
BBC Four
19:00 - Roman Britain: A Timewatch Guide: 360k (1.7%)
20:00 - Egypt's Lost Queens: 419k (2.0%)
21:00 - Modus: 688k (3.3%)
21:45 - Modus: 515k (2.6%)
ITV2 (inc +1)
21:30 - The Xtra Factor: 146k (0.6%)
22:30 - I'm a Celebrity: Extra Camp: 616k (4.8%)
All-day shares
BBC One: 23.2%
ITV: 13.8% (+1: 0.6%)
BBC Two: 5.9%
Channel 4: 3.7% (+1: 0.6%)
Channel 5: 3.4% (+1: 0.3%)
Primetime shares (19:00-23:00)
BBC One: 29.6%
ITV: 23.7% (+1: 0.5%)
BBC Two: 5.7%
Channel 4: 3.8% (+1: 0.5%)
Channel 5: 2.1% (+1: 0.3%)
5-Minute Breakdown - BBC One vs ITV
Saturday 3rd December 2016 - Overnights
BBC One
06:00 - Breakfast: 1.40m (34.9%)
10:00 - Saturday Kitchen Live: 1.41m (21.3%)
11:30 - Home Comforts at Christmas: 1.31m (20.0%)
12:00 - Football Focus: 1.09m (15.1%)
13:00 - BBC News: 1.41m (17.7%)
13:15 - Snooker: UK Championship 2016: 1.19m (12.1%)
* 15 minute peak: 1.75m (14.6%) at 16:15
16:30 - Final Score: 2.23m (16.9%)
17:25 - Celebrity Mastermind: 2.43m (15.5%)
17:55 - BBC News: 3.90m (22.7%)
18:10 - Pointless Celebrities: 4.45m (23.9%)
19:00 - Strictly Come Dancing: 10.38m (49.1%)
* 5-minute peak: 11.17m (51.7%)
20:00 - Michael McIntyre's Big Show: 6.00m (28.6%)
21:00 - Casualty: 4.26m (20.4%)
21:50 - The National Lottery Live: 2.54m (12.3%)
22:00 - BBC News: 3.13m (15.8%)
22:20 - Match of the Day: 3.21m (23.6%)
23:45 - The NFL Show: 0.54m (8.1%)
00:15 - FILM: Dragonfly: 0.42m (11.1%)
BBC Two
12:00 - The Best Dishes Ever: 0.52m (7.5%)
12:30 - Hairy Bikers' Best of British: 0.65m (8.4%)
13:30 - FILM: Rebecca: 0.55m (5.9%)
15:35 - Flog It!: 0.84m (7.4%)
19:00 - Snooker: UK Championship 2016: 1.15m (5.7%)
* 15-minute peak: 1.37m (6.6%) at 21:15
23:00 - FILM: The Dresser: 0.20m (2.4%)
ITV (inc +1)
09:30 - FILM: Carry On Girls: 0.31m (3.9%)
11:10 - All Star Family Fortunes (r): 0.37m (5.6%)
11:55 - ITV News & Weather: 0.42m (6.4%)
12:05 - Judge Rinder: 0.42m (5.7%)
13:05 - Cash Trapped (r): 0.36m (4.3%)
14:05 - FILM: St Trinian's: 0.64m (6.5%)
16:00 - Thunderbirds Are Go: 0.49m (4.2%)
16:20 - The Chase (r): 1.26m (9.6%)
17:25 - ITV Regional News: 2.31m (15.2%)
17:40 - ITV News & Weather: 2.49m (15.4%)
18:00 - Tipping Point: Lucky Stars: 2.93m (15.9%)
19:00 - Meet the Parents: 1.81m (8.6%)
20:00 - The X Factor: 5.75m (27.5%)
* 5-minute peak: 6.60m (31.3%) at 21:25
* exc +1: 5.61m (26.9%)
21:30 - I'm a Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here!: 7.68m (38.3%)
* 5-minute peak: 8.44m (40.8%) at 21:55
* exc +1: 7.37m (36.8%)
22:35 - ITV News & Weather: 2.54m (16.7%)
22:50 - FILM: 10,000 BC: 0.87m (10.3%)
Channel 4 (inc +1)
13:25 - Channel 4 Racing: 0.46m (4.8%)
16:00 - Jamie's Super Food: 0.31m (2.6%)
16:30 - Location, Location, Location: 0.65m (4.8%)
17:35 - A Place in the Sun: 0.75m (4.4%)
18:30 - Channel 4 News: 0.57m (3.0%)
19:00 - China: Between Clouds and Dreams: 0.50m (2.3%)
20:00 - Britain at Low Tide: 1.06m (5.1%)
21:00 - FILM: Now You See Me: 0.98m (5.2%)
Channel 5 (inc +1)
15:20 - FILM: A Belle For Christmas: 0.59m (5.5%)
16:20 - 5 News Update: 0.78m (6.5%)
16:25 - FILM: A Belle For Christmas: 0.82m (6.5%)
17:10 - FILM: Mrs Miracle: 1.01m (6.4%)
18:10 - 5 News Update: 1.11m (6.2%)
18:15 - FILM: Mrs Miracle: 1.13m (6.1%)
19:05 - NCIS: 0.37m (1.7%)
20:00 - NCIS: New Orleans: 0.62m (3.0%)
20:55 - 5 News Weekend: 0.29m (1.4%)
21:00 - Football On 5: The Championship: 0.40m (2.0%)
22:20 - FILM: Frozen Ground: 0.55m (4.7%)
BBC Four
19:00 - Roman Britain: A Timewatch Guide: 360k (1.7%)
20:00 - Egypt's Lost Queens: 419k (2.0%)
21:00 - Modus: 688k (3.3%)
21:45 - Modus: 515k (2.6%)
ITV2 (inc +1)
21:30 - The Xtra Factor: 146k (0.6%)
22:30 - I'm a Celebrity: Extra Camp: 616k (4.8%)
All-day shares
BBC One: 23.2%
ITV: 13.8% (+1: 0.6%)
BBC Two: 5.9%
Channel 4: 3.7% (+1: 0.6%)
Channel 5: 3.4% (+1: 0.3%)
Primetime shares (19:00-23:00)
BBC One: 29.6%
ITV: 23.7% (+1: 0.5%)
BBC Two: 5.7%
Channel 4: 3.8% (+1: 0.5%)
Channel 5: 2.1% (+1: 0.3%)
5-Minute Breakdown - BBC One vs ITV
Code:
BBC One | ITV 18:00 - 4.04m (23.6%) | 2.33m (13.6%) 18:05 - 4.28m (24.2%) | 2.48m (14.0%) 18:10 - 4.06m (22.6%) | 2.68m (15.0%) 18:15 - 3.65m (20.3%) | 2.76m (15.3%) 18:20 - 3.85m (21.1%) | 2.89m (15.8%) 18:25 - 4.11m (22.6%) | 2.77m (15.2%) 18:30 - 4.29m (23.2%) | 2.95m (16.0%) 18:35 - 4.33m (23.1%) | 3.15m (16.8%) 18:40 - 4.54m (23.8%) | 2.98m (15.6%) 18:45 - 4.58m (24.0%) | 3.27m (17.1%) 18:50 - 4.98m (26.0%) | 3.49m (18.2%) 18:55 - 6.18m (32.1%) | 2.84m (14.8%) 19:00 - 8.53m (43.3%) | 1.76m (8.9%) 19:05 - 9.61m (46.5%) | 1.69m (8.2%) 19:10 - 10.00m (47.6%) | 1.71m (8.1%) 19:15 - 10.15m (48.2%) | 1.72m (8.1%) 19:20 - 10.40m (48.5%) | 1.82m (8.5%) 19:25 - 10.50m (49.8%) | 1.67m (7.9%) 19:30 - 10.79m (50.7%) | 1.82m (8.6%) 19:35 - 10.78m (50.3%) | 1.91m (8.9%) 19:40 - 11.04m (51.3%) | 1.93m (9.0%) 19:45 - 11.06m (51.4%) | 2.06m (9.6%) 19:50 - 11.17m (51.7%) | 2.10m (9.7%) 19:55 - 10.58m (49.9%) | 2.22m (10.5%) 20:00 - 7.37m (35.4%) | 4.55m (21.8%) 20:05 - 5.90m (28.2%) | 5.57m (26.6%) 20:10 - 5.66m (27.5%) | 5.32m (25.9%) 20:15 - 5.43m (26.4%) | 5.28m (25.7%) 20:20 - 5.59m (26.3%) | 5.80m (27.3%) 20:25 - 5.74m (27.3%) | 5.86m (27.8%) 20:30 - 5.77m (28.0%) | 5.33m (25.9%) 20:35 - 5.86m (28.1%) | 5.68m (27.3%) 20:40 - 6.01m (28.0%) | 6.15m (28.7%) 20:45 - 6.31m (30.4%) | 5.17m (24.9%) 20:50 - 6.39m (29.9%) | 6.00m (28.0%) 20:55 - 5.92m (27.8%) | 6.31m (29.6%) 21:00 - 4.41m (21.1%) | 6.50m (31.1%) 21:05 - 4.27m (21.1%) | 5.50m (27.2%) 21:10 - 4.23m (20.2%) | 6.38m (30.5%) 21:15 - 4.22m (20.8%) | 5.58m (27.5%) 21:20 - 4.19m (20.2%) | 5.91m (28.4%) 21:25 - 4.25m (20.2%) | 6.60m (31.3%) 21:30 - 4.33m (20.7%) | 6.47m (30.9%) 21:35 - 4.25m (19.6%) | 7.49m (34.6%) 21:40 - 4.21m (19.4%) | 7.72m (35.5%) 21:45 - 4.21m (20.8%) | 6.46m (31.9%) 21:50 - 2.51m (12.3%) | 8.30m (40.5%) 21:55 - 2.58m (12.4%) | 8.44m (40.8%) 22:00 - 2.89m (14.5%) | 7.75m (39.0%) 22:05 - 3.15m (16.2%) | 7.22m (37.2%) 22:10 - 3.32m (16.4%) | 8.33m (41.3%) 22:15 - 3.16m (15.9%) | 8.22m (41.4%) 22:20 - 2.88m (15.4%) | 7.08m (37.9%) 22:25 - 3.17m (16.5%) | 7.99m (41.5%) 22:30 - 3.66m (19.7%) | 7.18m (38.8%) 22:35 - 4.21m (25.7%) | 3.19m (19.5%) 22:40 - 4.13m (26.3%) | 2.70m (17.2%) 22:45 - 4.00m (26.3%) | 2.57m (16.8%) 22:50 - 3.55m (24.2%) | 2.37m (16.2%) 22:55 - 3.50m (25.0%) | 1.74m (12.4%)
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“I'd be tempted to pitch The X Factor head to head with Strictly next year, hope for a core 5m which would be better anything else gets in the slot and see if the can launch anything out of it/make The X Factor's presence worthwhile. Not sure what they have in their locker worth launching though - that's the only downside to the plan.”
“I'd be tempted to pitch The X Factor head to head with Strictly next year, hope for a core 5m which would be better anything else gets in the slot and see if the can launch anything out of it/make The X Factor's presence worthwhile. Not sure what they have in their locker worth launching though - that's the only downside to the plan.”
It does seem nothing, not even the biggest show on tv in PE2, can reduce XF's rating. However, they aren't going to get new viewers coming late in the series. SCD, IAC and Apprentice haven't recently grown their ratings either. All of these shows are pretty consistent - IAC is a bit different for obvious reasons.
Your idea of clashing does make sense. Really it was Judge's Houses that seems to have cost them 1.5m viewers for whatever reason. Starting every episode at 6:30 next year could work, especially as the earlier ones would have no clash.
I'd be more radical and start in late Oct and run the popular auditions during the Xmas build up and most live shows after Xmas.
Or move it to Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
Or swap it with BGT and Takeaway.
What MM shows is simple variety still works. It'd work even better in a TV studio rather than a Palladium type feel. MM is a natural host.
This is where I mention 321 again which I'm now making my equivalent of H's The Chase.
Ray do you have the rating for the Timewatch(?) history programme that was on BBC 4 last night at 7pm? It was about Roman Britain and features old BBC documentaries. I gave up on SCD (we all know the final two and probable winner) and fortunately stumbled on BBC4's fascinating programme. I'm not quite sure what it was called.
The BBC1 Mastermind figure presumably includes the Fawlty Towers repeat shown in Sotland, seems a bit low.
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
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Ray do you have the rating for the Timewatch(?) history programme that was on BBC 4 last night at 7pm? It was about Roman Britain and features old BBC documentaries. I gave up on SCD (we all know the final two and probable winner) and fortunately stumbled on BBC4's fascinating programme. I'm not quite sure what it was called.”
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Ray do you have the rating for the Timewatch(?) history programme that was on BBC 4 last night at 7pm? It was about Roman Britain and features old BBC documentaries. I gave up on SCD (we all know the final two and probable winner) and fortunately stumbled on BBC4's fascinating programme. I'm not quite sure what it was called.”
Stand down, Ray.
Thanks Lewie for that... 360k for BBC4 up against SCD is not bad.
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